question about game logs

hippo925

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i recently asked for some game logs to be sent to me in excel format because it seems it's the easiest way to look through large amounts of data. i was told it would not be a problem.

but instead, i was given the game logs in a wordpad format. what do i do with this? is there a way to transfer it to a more friendly format like excel. or is this the usual way game logs are sent? i can't figure out how to manage this kind of data in a "word" or "wordpad" type file.

if anyone has any experience with game logs, please tell me what i should be asking for. the ones i got have a lot of info like bet, win, lines played... but doesn't show the balance at each game.

appreciate any help, thanks a bunch :D
 

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Is it in a .txt file format? If so you can import into Excel, by going to file.....import.
 

hippo925

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Is it in a .txt file format? If so you can import into Excel, by going to file.....import.

though i have excel on my other computers, the computer i use for online gaming has only the openoffice applications (wanted to see what they were like). pretty much the same as the windows applications.

i was able to turn the .txt file into a spreadsheet but it was a lot of work and demanded a lot of resources because of the size of the data.

i have to say, if you have never looked over game logs, it's quite a blast because it's like re-living your sessions without having to watch the graphics. also, you can get actual data of things like: total payback or payback in a particular session, number of bonuses, average bonus payout, spins between bonuses, payback between bonuses, payback at different wagers, etc..... really, almost anything! :D

but ask for the game logs in excel format because that enables you to do everything without the hassle.
 

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Or .csv, then they can be posted here for all to enjoy (if small enough) :)
 

hippo925

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Or .csv, then they can be posted here for all to enjoy (if small enough) :)

i had to look up what a .csv was (comma separated values) :D. the game logs i received were in .txt format, but the values were separated by commas. that allowed me to import them into a spreadsheet format. is that sort of the same thing?

my logs consisted of 20000 spins, i don't know if that is small or large.

as a side note, lol.... lojo, your occupation is listed as a tradesman? when i clicked your profile i was expecting something with a phd! how do you retain all this stuff? and continually drink mead, lol.
 

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.csv sure works as a spreadsheet file. tab delimited.. comma seperated values, they all convert :) Meister recently added .csv as an acceptable attachment (max file size is under 100KB though)

hmm... I never said what it is that I trade as a 'tradesman' :)

hmm, I don't know... but i think mead does a body good. It's like bier's older wiser sibling. Now vodka and gin... 'nother story.
 

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i had to look up what a .csv was (comma separated values) :D. the game logs i received were in .txt format, but the values were separated by commas. that allowed me to import them into a spreadsheet format. is that sort of the same thing?

my logs consisted of 20000 spins, i don't know if that is small or large.

as a side note, lol.... lojo, your occupation is listed as a tradesman? when i clicked your profile i was expecting something with a phd! how do you retain all this stuff? and continually drink mead, lol.
Hippo, as I have said to you before I am somewhat limited in my knowledge of slots but I continue to study slots independently like you as well as validate some posts by Brianzz,Kimss,VWM,Zoozie,Rusty et al who seem to all have a greater working knowledge of slots than I as I prepare for a February 28,2008 meeting. (Eliot, I will PM you in regards but it is a done deal I am told)......my understanding theoretically is payouts (unless specified otherwise) are quoted to infinity although when I mentioned this to Eliot, he mentioned a caveat of that theory that I did not comprehend honestly. I will get clarity.....Most recently, Brianzz's posting of a PAR sheet (it is in your "how slots work" thread) confirmed that 10000 spins on the subject game per an enclosed PAR sheet (with an overall return of 97.4%) would prolly give an expected return (in a B & M slot) ranging approx. from 83% to 111% and the PAR sheet showed even after 10000000 spins there was still about a .45%+/- range of the PAR sheets quoted expected overall 97.4% payout (which I assume is based on infinity but I want to check).....my conclusion is your 20000 spins once again is basically meaningless unless your return was so many sd's from the approx. 84% to 110% expected return (interpolated)....NOTE: will check Brianzz's post,interpolate, and clean up any numbers I may have quoted incorrectly.-DONE
 
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hippo925

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my conclusion is your 20000 spins once again is basically meaningless unless your return was so many sd's from the approx. 84% to 110% expected return (interpolated)....

i think your conclusion is absolutely correct. 20000 spins is not a lot depending on what you are trying to evaluate and pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

but 20000 spins i think is plenty to evaluate one's own play at any game or casino, if only to get a "general" idea of how a game played for you in the past. in some cases, i think it can even help to optimize your play. there's no chance in heck i'm gonna evaluate 10000000 spins, lol. :D 20000 was plenty for me! if 20000 spins gives "me" certain results, i think i can safely assume the next 20000 spins would be similar. :D

but i do think i have to agree with you and eliot 100%!!! the only way to really evaluate a game or casino would be to do a complete audit by a professional... especially for every online casino. For fairness sake , i just don't see a way around this.

and thanks again, always look forward to what you and eliot have to say on these matters!!:lolup:
 

hippo925

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hmm... I never said what it is that I trade as a 'tradesman' :)

hmm, I don't know... but i think mead does a body good. It's like bier's older wiser sibling. Now vodka and gin... 'nother story.

i'm guessing "information technology" or some sort of consulting for hi-tech stuff. :D

Don't forget about tequila... mead's evil cousin, twice removed, who is ALWAYS causing trouble. :D ( i actually quit drinking, except for the occasional "social" wine once a month, about 8 years ago after getting really sick from tequila... apparently it was the cheap stuff.)
 
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