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question about BPU

Discussion in 'Bingo!' started by perky34b, Apr 28, 2008.

    Apr 28, 2008
  1. perky34b

    perky34b Dormant account

    Location:
    Freedom PA
    Hi there casinomeister my friend! Been awhile.

    I have a quick question for you regarding Bingo Players Union.

    Do you endorse them? They are claiming you do, but I have not seen anything on your site that says this.

    In my opinion they are a garbage board, and I find it very hard to believe that you would endorse this. I have always found your site to be factual and informative.

    BPU on the other hand is a regular slamfest. Anybody who posts something positive or factual about a site they are currently slamming gets degraded, called names, and even banned from their site. I have seen this many times.

    It seems their main purpose is solely to trash sites, and they do not want their members to see any facts that might make their trashing seem ridiculous.

    They tell you to beware of any site asking for proper identification as they are trying to scam you out of your money. I know you do not agree with this, as you say to send in the identification before you deposit. This is just one example of many.

    Please please tell me you do not endorse them, so I can keep the faith.

    Thanks a bunch and good to see you all!

    Perky :notworthy:D
     
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  2. May 4, 2008
  3. NAVYMANS-MOM

    NAVYMANS-MOM Dormant account PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Computer Tech Support
    Location:
    Southwest Virginia
    In most instances

    I have found that the name calling basically gets started by some people who love a site toward passionate members who have been ripped off by sites and who are trying to warn others about what happened. The name calling usually starts with very carefully crafted wording which comes down to insulting the person who got ripped off by accusing them of cheating the site to begin with. When that type of situation starts, it escalates with the other person trying to defend themselves.

    BPU assumes nothing and investigates all claims by members by asking for proof from members, such as emails, chat records, etc. and then asks for proof from the site itself that the claim by the members is wrong. If a site doesn't bother to respond, as is the case many times, then BPU doggedly tracks and continues to contact the site to get to the bottom of it before stating anything publicly that the member has a legitimate claim, even if that claim is nothing more than the site refusing to communicate with them to get a problem resolved.

    BPU has also found in favor of sites that have communicated with BPU and proved that the claim was invalid and/or false or have worked with BPU and the member to get a problem resolved.

    They only call a site 'rogue' when all communication between the site, BPU, and/or the member has failed and the site has ignored the problem completely. It stands to reason that if a site closes somebody's account with no warning, confiscated all monies those members had in their accounts, and refuses to communicate to even explain why the account was disabled to begin with, the site deserves the 'rogue' status and a warning to people across the net to steer clear because if it happens even just ONCE to somebody, it makes no difference if the rest of the site members haven't experienced problems with the site. It means if it can happen to ONE, it can happen to ALL at some point in time and by warning potential depositors to stay away from the site, the site either gets a rude wake-up call and changes the way things are handled at their site, or they are perfectly happy taking money from unsuspecting souls and going on their merry way to their bank.

    There are some people that would argue with a rock about whether it should sit in the sun or in the shade. Human nature being what it is, people who love a site because they've been treated 'fairly' always suspect that the member who HASN'T been treated fairly and with respect must have cheated the site in some way. To be publicly accused of lying or cheating by a complete stranger doesn't go down well, however, there have been times, even as recently as last week at BPU, where a claim was proven to be false and BPU let everyone know publicly that the site hadn't done anything wrong. You can't ask for better than fairness for ALL, and that's what BPU goes out of their way, without pay, to bring about.

    Banned members from BPU are a very uncommon occurance, but when it happens it is because those members were quick to condemn, accuse, and disrupt rather than contribute. It's a privately owned site and, just like online bingo sites, the rules are theirs to uphold. Fortunately, BPU doesn't change their rules on a whim like many bingo sites do. There is never a 'gotcha' with BPU.......except when they find during their investigation that you have lied to them about the 'facts' of your claim. Then BPU will expose you so be prepared for that.
     
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  4. May 4, 2008
  5. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

    Occupation:
    Tradesman
    Location:
    USA
    May I suggest that if you had a legit question you would have emailed or PM'd the Host?
    Otherwise it smells like troll doodoo

    If you have a statement to make about BPU, then by all means state the facts :)
     
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  6. May 5, 2008
  7. perky34b

    perky34b Dormant account

    Location:
    Freedom PA
    my question was for casino meister, thanks and it was do you endorse bpu? They are claiming that you do and I find it extremely hard to believe.

    And you can all see how they have proven my point, while they all rushed over here to call my opinion troll doodoo, and to put me down for asking the casino meister a legitimate question. I would like to know and I would think everyone would like to know what Casino Meister thinks of it.

    Thanks
     
  8. May 5, 2008
  9. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

    Occupation:
    Tradesman
    Location:
    USA
    There is a forum for questions to him, there is also the Private message function. I'd suggest you use those options.
     
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  10. May 5, 2008
  11. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    I don't "endorse" them. I really don't "endorse" any portals. I do have portal links at the bottom of my pages, but these are webmasters that I know personally and we exchange links. That's about it.
     
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  12. May 5, 2008
  13. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

    Occupation:
    webmistress
    Location:
    The Boonies
    I am happy to say that, while I do not make a point of endorsing sites, Casinomeister is the only player message board I would happily endorse.

    Casinomeister is run in a professional manner, does not allow flames and attacks on individuals, and has solved countless issues in a professional manner.

    Good going Bryan, you are definitely the end all in problem resolution. :thumbsup:
     
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  14. May 5, 2008
  15. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    damn shills....:lolup:
     
  16. May 5, 2008
  17. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

    Occupation:
    webmistress
    Location:
    The Boonies
    Busted! :)


    [​IMG]
     
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  18. May 7, 2008
  19. Sissy

    Sissy Dormant account

    Occupation:
    self employed
    Location:
    Arkansas
    I would like to add, in BPU defense, that we struggle against many more odds as we don't have the power that CasinoMeister does. But we did manage to earn our GPWA Seal and are proud of it. A step in the right direction for sure.
    Many don't agree with the way we do things, but fairness is utmost on our minds, whether it be the site or the player with an issue.

    I believe I have conducted myself in an adult manner here at CasinoMeisters with the exception of one time when I lost my temper. I apologized and gave my word that it won't happen again. And it won't.

    Opinions differ, tempers flare and things are said in a way they never should have been. Perky you know why you were banned. I do believe there is a place for this conversation and it most certainly isn't here. I have an email address and a pm box here, if you would like to discuss it. I would be most happy to speak with you anytime.
     
  20. May 7, 2008
  21. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

    Occupation:
    webmistress
    Location:
    The Boonies
    I don't know why people often act in a way online that they would never do in real life.

    Maybe it's because the other people seem to be cartoon characters rather than real people with feelings and opinions.

    Some threads develop into battle fields. Sometimes there are just simply attacks on people with no foundation except that a scape goat is needed to take the brunt of everyone's personal frustration.

    I have no idea what happened with/to Perky, and I don't really care to know or get involved, I am not talking about any incident in specific, just about the nature of message boards.

    Admin/moderators are there to look out for each individual poster and make sure that there are no negative repercussions for stating opinions. IMO message boards are there so people can learn new facts and discuss them. For a discussion you need opinions. If everyone agrees, it's not a discussion but an exercise in Yay-saying.

    So I see disagreements as a positive that can bring new facts and ways of seeing things to light. A good message board admin is able to allow free expression while still protecting each poster from attacks.

    I like Meister because that is the case here. And sometimes it's not an easy feat to say the least.
     
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  22. May 7, 2008
  23. BingoT

    BingoT Nurses love to give shots webmeister

    Occupation:
    Nursing & Run Bus Trips
    Location:
    Hartford,Ct
    Dom it's so true on how people have to act online.

    This is all about the Internet don't ya know.
    People that sit behind a keyboard that have Many things they can type about a person and they will give you :notworthy:thumbsup::eek2::eek::rolleyes::lolup: after that they stab ya in the back.But when you call them out to meet ya in person lol I don't want to say what I will call them because I may get banned from here lol.
    The keyboard is allot of peoples friends.You can say anything you like and hide.and nothing to worry about you will never see them up front.
    This is one of my pet peeves I have.I would love to meet many that talk trash about anyone.But they all bow down and make an excuse to not meet ya in person.
    They will call ya every name in the book but do you think they would do this in front of your face NO
    This is why we have to protect our kids also because you have many that sit behind a keyboard and think they are God or something better.
    I don't care where you go online you will find White Trash,Black Trash,Trailer Trash,And plain old Trash online.
    You will always find funny people online.



    the bottom line is we should all try to get along with each other
     
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  24. May 9, 2008
  25. perky34b

    perky34b Dormant account

    Location:
    Freedom PA
    Thanks Sissy but no thanks, You couldn't drag me back to your forum. I was banned for speaking what I viewed as the truth, and I do not think I was alone in that view. I was called names, put down and degraded for speaking my opinion,(by you and your staff as well) along with some legal facts that you would like to deny.

    And I am glad to see that casinomeister does not endorse you as you claim. I have always found his board to be fair, and value all opinions. Nobody here is called troll doodoo.

    I have my own forum, and have visited and have friends at many gambling forums. And I have never ever seen treatment of people on them like I have seen at yours.

    Casino Meister YOU ROCK!!!
     
    Last edited: May 10, 2008
  26. May 10, 2008
  27. BingoT

    BingoT Nurses love to give shots webmeister

    Occupation:
    Nursing & Run Bus Trips
    Location:
    Hartford,Ct
    Hey Perky34b I do have to say one thing.
    Sissy did ask you that you can PM,Email her to iron all this out.
    And that's a start.
     
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  28. May 19, 2008
  29. dynamitewoman

    dynamitewoman Dormant account

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    roswell,n.m
    Peace is optional for some..mandatory for others.
    BPU is an area for players and sites to vent, praise, opine and generally speak what is on your mind. If you are not prepared for a difference of opinion to expressed, then I suggest you carefully guard your ideas and opinions in the safe harbor of your own mind.
    Lets face it, there are many, many gaming portals that have NO idea about a sites policy, ethics, history or player accomodations, yet they proudly display their banners for folks to click on, visit, and hopefully deposit. All this has one main objective... to promote an unknown entity ( in most instances) for the purpose of creating revenue.
    When a member or guest of BPU posts about an issue they are having with a site, it is usually after they have tried to communicate with a site to resolve the problem. With their irritations, frustrations and anger tucked in their bingo bag, they post...and that is as allowable and welcome as anyones "opinions" that may be totally contrary. Perhaps if others have had an issue with the same site or network, they may feel compelled or warrranted in posting their experiences at that time. Much research and investigation is accomplished before any decisions or determinations are made regarding a claim, and ALL site owners or managers are invited to respond publicly or privately. This rarely happens.
    It is absolutely super when a player has no problems that cant be managed with a little arbitration and discussion with the site itself, but when that proves to be ineffective, it is in very poor taste and without empathy for any player to negate a bad experience or mistreatment of another simply because they have personally not had the same experience.When a player says" you must be in the wrong because that has not happened to me",
    I can not think of a more introspect, selfish and thoughtless statement that can be offered. This, unfortunately, leads to personality clashes and irrelevancy . If you are a true beleiver that "luck" plays a huge role in the entertainment called gambling, then you must be willing to beleive that some players have been bestowed with that same luck to not have been cheated or deceived by a site that has clearly misled and cheated others.
    I am suggesting that we all try to be a little kinder and tolerant in the pursuit of this thing we call entertainment, because that is supposed to be fun...isnt it?
     
  30. May 19, 2008
  31. dynamitewoman

    dynamitewoman Dormant account

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    roswell,n.m
    I must question this.

    Perky34b said:
    I was called names, put down and degraded for speaking my opinion,(by you and your staff as well) along with some legal facts that you would like to deny.


    You were called names and degraded by the staff? Frankly perky34b, I dont remember you unless you were using a different alias. Lets get beyond the status of allegations and claims and make it real clear that I did call you a "name" and degrade you. If you find this to be a fact that you can verify with an actual documented post that I have degraded or called you a name that was offensive, I invite you to post it. I find that an accusation that "attacks" and provokes unecessary conflict and is also totally without any basis in fact or merit, but merely your perspective and opinion. It is just this kind of inciteful talk that leads to the situations that you seem to be so against!

    Legal facts? I imagine you presented a documented legal precedent or cited the actual code of the law that supported your presentation of a "legal fact"? It would be folly to state legalities and government mandate without some form of proof to absolutely affirm your statements...wouldnt it?

    Perky34b said:
    nobody here is called troll doodoo.


    I thought I read that here! Do you find that name offensive too? Is someone again degrading you? Insinuations, allusions and references that are ungrounded and presented as the truth lead to conflict, frustration, anger, confusion,disruption and hostility.
    Please dont bring me into any of your tirades in a negative and unfounded manner, I find that offensive and very unjust.
    Thank You
     
  32. May 22, 2008
  33. perky34b

    perky34b Dormant account

    Location:
    Freedom PA
    yep I do find being called troll doodoo offensive, as well as in poor nasty taste. Which seems to be your style. Thanks for coming yet again to prove my point.
     
  34. May 22, 2008
  35. bryand

    bryand Beach Bum PABnonaccred mm1

    Occupation:
    Legal
    Location:
    Just Across the Hudson River
    123

    At the risk of derailing an otherwise nutritious thread :cool:, does anyone have info, good or bad, concerning 123Bingo? They are sending me emails. I'm thinking of taking the "Bingo Plunge" and want to use a SUB for the learning experience.
     
  36. May 25, 2008
  37. perky34b

    perky34b Dormant account

    Location:
    Freedom PA
    By the way Dynamite, I do work for a land casino, (not as a street mime or deli owner as one of your mods, maybe even you stated, though these are probably fine professions as well) and am pretty aware of laws about gaming. It is also pretty obvious by your attitude and statements that you are not aware of any. I did email GPWA some links to your comments so they can see what kind of rubbish they are endorsing.


    Hi Bryand, I have played at 123 and I liked it. I didn't win anything big or cashout there, but played a couple times and had a decent experience. Got a lot of play for my money. I like the parlay software alot.
     
    Last edited: May 25, 2008
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  38. May 30, 2008
  39. Sissy

    Sissy Dormant account

    Occupation:
    self employed
    Location:
    Arkansas


    They have had some ups and downs in the past, but seem to running a good site. David, the manager, is always quick to work with BPU if we have issues that come to us concerning his site. I have done some monitoring of 123Bingo and they have some really good jackpots. All I know for fact is what I see and read, but on a trial run I guess 123 would be as good as any to try out:).

    They also have a cashback perk that I have never seen before at any site. If you spend all of your deposit and bonuses, you simply go to live help and ask for "cashback" and they will put back the amount you deposited in you account as a cash balance to play on.

    I hear they are adding new games etc. As with any bingo site, read the rules and ask all of your questions BEFORE you deposit :). Good luck should you decide to try it Byand!!
     

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