Punters required to state occupation at Playnow

jetset

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BCLC’S PLAYNOW.COM REQUIRES OCCUPATION INFO FROM CUSTOMERS

In line with amendments to Federal Law effective June 17, 2017.


British Columbia Lottery Corporation’s (BCLC) PlayNow.com online casino is urging online customers to update their profiles with occupation information, required by recent amendments to Federal Law arising from the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) and Terrorist Financing Act(PCMLTFA) that came into effect on June 17, 2017.

BCLC has advised customers will be unable to play, deposit or withdraw funds until the requirement is met.
 

Casinomeister

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BCLC’S PLAYNOW.COM REQUIRES OCCUPATION INFO FROM CUSTOMERS

In line with amendments to Federal Law effective June 17, 2017.


British Columbia Lottery Corporation’s (BCLC) PlayNow.com online casino is urging online customers to update their profiles with occupation information, required by recent amendments to Federal Law arising from the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) and Terrorist Financing Act(PCMLTFA) that came into effect on June 17, 2017.

BCLC has advised customers will be unable to play, deposit or withdraw funds until the requirement is met.

What a joke. Just goes to show how out of touch they are. I wish I was a player there, I'd come up with my own occupation: "gopher trap inspector." I did that in 1979 btw. :p
 

Jasminebed

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They requested this at PlayOLG (Ontario) too. I'm not sure what the required by date was, as I did it when the request first appeared.

I don't know how this will impact people outside the workforce such as stay-at-home spouses or people of independant means. Not only must you include occupation (such as salesperson) but which industry (eg. automotive industry).

I've also had a request at Moneymart for the prepaid reloadable card I use.
 

goatwack

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So now I have to put that I'm a rent boy?

Pretty intrusive, that :mad:
 

BrianGhattas

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At least PlayNow has plenty of games. Kathleen's Casino is garbage. However, I've had 4 straight cashouts...miniscule as they all were.

The government is indeed inept in regards to casinos. I wish Canada had casinos run by outsiders with government meddling.
 

ReggieMac

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Glad that doesn't apply to the UK (yet!). As I am a computer software developer and have worked on software for banks, insurance companies, casino's and many other high security, high reliability sites I should imagine they would ban me on the assumption that I would hack them! Yeah, like that is an easy thing to do! :rolleyes:
 

vinylweatherman

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One problem is that some people work for "the government", and are not supposed to be specific about their occupation to anyone. They will have to contrive an occupation in order to pass the check, and if they DO pass the check it would mean that there is no means of verifying the declared occupation, thus anyone could put anything that can be seen a reasonable occupation. This seems to defeat any possible purpose in having this check.
 

ricky

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One problem is that some people work for "the government", and are not supposed to be specific about their occupation to anyone. They will have to contrive an occupation in order to pass the check, and if they DO pass the check it would mean that there is no means of verifying the declared occupation, thus anyone could put anything that can be seen a reasonable occupation. This seems to defeat any possible purpose in having this check.

"self-employed" pretty much defeats the check anyway
 

nojoke

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Gambler. There are professional gamblers, Arent there ?

Loser. Gamblers lose, dont they ?

What would they do if you replied "Flavoured ice lolly butt plug vendor" Ahh shit, Someone gonna start making them now, I can see it.


Again its the industry building profiles. Data sells.

Tell them nothing.
 

mcgameboy

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Full-time loafer, part-time slob, occasional beer-drinker, PC peripheral thrower, tilter, PhD in profanity, fat bastid who all the pies AKA amateur pie-eater.

Jesus. How the hell can I hold down so many jobs at once? :eek:

The big question is, would all the above be deemed sufficient to get my account verified? :rolleyes:
 

slotter999

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In the United Kingdom (which could be part of an EU initiative) I believe the intention or certainly the desire exists to make this type of question much more commonplace in respect to KYC.

Part of the problem the UK gambling firms have faced is criminals (usually gambling addicts first followed by criminality) losing huge sums of illicitly gained money which comes to light during a criminal trial. In most of these cases the gambling firms have been shown to either lack the motivation to undertake proper due diligence or have the necessary controls in place to do so.

The authorities have taken a dim view of this but the actions of the casinos appears to be that unless they are compelled to do something then it will be business as usual.

If new rules are introduced then I think for the average customer this is unlikely to make any difference if they are depositing relatively small amounts of money but high rollers will almost certainly face a much more robust set of questions about how they are able to finance their deposits which is likely to include questions about salary etc not too unlike loan applications etc.
 

vinylweatherman

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In the United Kingdom (which could be part of an EU initiative) I believe the intention or certainly the desire exists to make this type of question much more commonplace in respect to KYC.

Part of the problem the UK gambling firms have faced is criminals (usually gambling addicts first followed by criminality) losing huge sums of illicitly gained money which comes to light during a criminal trial. In most of these cases the gambling firms have been shown to either lack the motivation to undertake proper due diligence or have the necessary controls in place to do so.

The authorities have taken a dim view of this but the actions of the casinos appears to be that unless they are compelled to do something then it will be business as usual.

If new rules are introduced then I think for the average customer this is unlikely to make any difference if they are depositing relatively small amounts of money but high rollers will almost certainly face a much more robust set of questions about how they are able to finance their deposits which is likely to include questions about salary etc not too unlike loan applications etc.

UK facing casinos will face the same problems as those in Canada. Unless they can verify employment details, people can say what they like. There is still the issue of people who have "sensitive" roles, and the government probably haven't thought this through when applying these ever more intrusive regulations. Someone who works for MI5 is going to be told not to tell people what they actually do, but to have a cover story. Perhaps something vague like "I work in the security industry". This might be fine where it's simply a data mining effort by a company to profile their clients, but where it's going to be checked something like this is going to fail, and it will create a right mess for the player who has only done what they thought they had to. What the regulations need is a way for people who are not supposed to disclose details of their employment to declare this in a way that regulated companies have to accept as a valid declaration. Sadly, the government are not very good at this, in the past they did nothing about the issue of offshore casinos demanding colour JPEG files of customers' passports be sent via email or posted to the Philippines, yet there was a major terrorist threat due to the ease with which criminals were able to trick tourists into allowing colour photocopies of their passports to be made for "verification purposes" by hotels, holiday hire companies, etc.
 

me_and_ed

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BCLC Casinos are under scrutiny at this point for laundering millions of dollars, I am sure this is one of the ways they are trying to calm the regulators.
 
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