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Discussion in 'Ask the Meister' started by amandajm, May 18, 2002.

    May 18, 2002
  1. amandajm

    amandajm Experienced Member

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    Dear Meister..

    I've been searching around via google etc trying to find a serious history of online gambling,from conception 'till now..

    I've found more stuff about computer games than i care to read.Pacman,space invaders and so on.

    Finding material regarding actual gambling,casino's,sportsbooks and bingo etc is more of a challenge.

    Your industry discussion section is interesting but is in forum style obviously,scattered.

    Where to go is my question.I've been at it for 3 days now and figured maybe i should ask.
     
  2. May 20, 2002
  3. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    You're gonna have to dig. Check with some of the older casinos (Intercasino, Sunny Group, etc.) and read their newsreleases which in many cases will be archived. That's a start. Some sites that have a lot of archived news (Casinowire.com for example) will help you out as well. I know their news is archived. To do research from the forum here will give you a headache since there is a lot of banter, but incorporating all three will give you a well-rounded idea of what a messy industry this is :)

    Bryan

    (Message edited by admin on May 21, 2002)
     
  4. May 20, 2002
  5. amandajm

    amandajm Experienced Member

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    Do you think you have it all down by pat in your mind ~B?

    Thankyou for your answer.
     
  6. May 21, 2002
  7. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Mind...?

    ~b
     
  8. May 21, 2002
  9. amandajm

    amandajm Experienced Member

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  10. May 21, 2002
  11. mary

    mary Dormant account

    Amandajm,

    You might want to start with books. Haywood's Beat Web Casinos, Balestra's Idiot's Guide to Online Gambling, and Anthony Cabot's I forget the name but it's expensive....are all good sources, with summaries of the history up to the date of publication.

    It then becomes easier to look at the last two years of industry history as reflected in press releases, forum searches, and business web sites.
     
  12. May 21, 2002
  13. mary

    mary Dormant account

    Don't be shy about starting topic threads either--as you assemble your history, what kinds of events are you looking for? Company foundings? Industry expansion? Court cases? Scandals? Significant changes in conduct, rules, definitions? When did the term "bonus abuser" come into use, when did credit cards cease to be used as deposit vehicles, when was the IGC founded?
     
  14. May 22, 2002
  15. amandajm

    amandajm Experienced Member

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    Mary,thankyou for talking to me.

    I want to know it all.I've been called one too many names since i've come online.Naive being probably the nicest. :) I don't want to be naive and clueless,but what can one do?I figured maybe i should make the effort not to be so.I've nearly lost all the money i made from the horses anyway,pricewise(Melvyn Collier).So maybe it's too late to get clued up now.I would have carried on with that,but the bookies moved the goalposts. :)

    I have actually started with landbased Casino's,rightly or wrongly..What do you think?

    So far i have gathered there have been lots of fires plagueing gambling establishments over the last century..Insurance in a word..

    What i will gain from learning about all this i don't really know.

    Maybe all i'll get is a taste of one of them awful awful burgers.If so,then so be it.What the heck.
     
  16. May 22, 2002
  17. mary

    mary Dormant account

    I love that casino, the one with the Awful Awful. Nugget in Reno. Good drinks service, lots of nickel machines...atmosphere all over.

    Haywood's book is the place to start.
     
  18. May 27, 2002
  19. amandajm

    amandajm Experienced Member

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    Could you point me in the right direction as to where to get the book you mention please?

    Can't find it at Amazon..

    WHSmith don't have it either.

    Nor my local library.
     
  20. May 27, 2002
  21. amandajm

    amandajm Experienced Member

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    At WOL,the book review i read says it seems angled towards avoiding being called a bonus abuser and how to play and win etc.Would that be your take on it Mary?
     
  22. May 27, 2002
  23. mary

    mary Dormant account

    Yep, but it also has good capsule history of the industry and of specific software companies. It's also reasonably priced compared to the alternatives.

    You might want to cruise the archives of You must register/login in order to see the link. for articles by Fred Faust, they are well-written and cover events in the industry. Much easier than slogging through message board posts.

    An other useful history source is the annual reports Bear,Sterns has done on "Gambling on the Internet". I don't know if BS keeps back copies of analyst reports, or if they mark them down from their high prices if they do.
     
  24. May 27, 2002
  25. mary

    mary Dormant account

    You'er in luck. Knock yourself out, as we Yanks like to say!

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  26. May 27, 2002
  27. amandajm

    amandajm Experienced Member

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    Sorry Mary,i don't know how to view this thing,,What should i open it with please?

    I tried wordpad..
     
  28. May 27, 2002
  29. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Hi amandajm

    You need to install Adobe Acrobat Reader
    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Bryan
     
  30. May 27, 2002
  31. amandajm

    amandajm Experienced Member

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    Thankyou sir.
     

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