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Problem with Firstweb (unwanted bonus)

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by JohnnyWalk, Nov 21, 2013.

    Nov 21, 2013
  1. JohnnyWalk

    JohnnyWalk Dormant account

    Occupation:
    poker
    Location:
    HousofGod
    Dear Members

    I want to warn people about the behavior of this casino, on 11 November I made a withdraw of around 2600 euro in this casino they asked me for my documents I send them over ID card and 2 utility bills, got a confirmation letter that finance department will review it within 48 hours. After 4 days the said the documents are to old(within 3 months), thats ok send the new documentation right away, next day I got an email we reversed your withdraw since we not received your documentation yet.

    So I logged in to my casino account there was my balance with 30 bonus added, I couldn't withdraw the money because there where bonus funds in my account, it's ok if they add a bonus but a 30 bonus on a 2.6K balance!! I don't know what the wagering is or nothing. I entered the chat asked them to remove my bonus and they just wouldn't do it! I copy paste some chat conversations


    " Jake: Hi ****, I'm Jake from the live chat support, how may I assist you?
    Me: Hello
    Me: could you remove the bonus in my account?
    Jake: Hi *** as per the casino policy I cannot remove a bonus once it has been credited However I will gladly remove you from all future bonuses should you wish"

    " Me: Remove the bonus please so I can make an withdraw
    Jake: Sure as per the Terms and Conditions of the welcome bonus offer once you have finshed the play-through on the bonus you are welcome to cash out your winnings
    Jake: So do you wish me to add you to the list to be removed from all future bonuses?
    Me: No
    Me: i just want this bonus removed
    Me: from my account
    Me: 30 bonus
    Jake: As I mentioned we cannot "

    I even brought up that they where accredited on Casinomeister on rule number 4

    Me: if you give me a normal bonus I appreciate it"
    Me: You know rule nr 4. on casinomeister
    Jake: As per the Terms and Conditions when you signed up for the casino you agreed to the conditions and you did not inform us before your deposit to the casino thaat you do not want to receive bonuses
    Me: rule nr 4 of casinomeister is that you cannot add unasked bonuses
    Jake: So all you need to do is coplete as noted the playthrough and you may even win more"
    Me: you are acredited on casinomeister right?
    Jake: I believe so we are acredited by eCogra which is higher"

    Well after debating with the casino staff member they wouldn't remove the 30 bonus I do not have solution yet for it, the pitboss is going to call me today and tell what the reason is they did this. Any advice would be appreciated maybe someone could tell me who the casino rep is. Maybe I can sort it out with him or her. I just want to give a warning for players who playing there.

    Regards

    Johnny
     
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  2. Nov 21, 2013
  3. mattsgame

    mattsgame Ueber Meister CAG webmeister

    Occupation:
    Web Master
    Location:
    Clown Town
    Firstly, did you win this amount on our own money? Why are they saying they added the welcome bonus?

    This sounded all to familiar..took me a minute to figure it out.

    This is a similar stunt that Wild Jack Casino pulled here: Wild Jack Won't Remove Bonus

    That casino was apart of the Jackpot Factory group but we were told only that casino was sold off but now there doing the same at First Web. They are all still managed by Nexigaming and something smells here.

    I would advise not to even think about touching the bonus and doing a PAB, you can find the info here PAB's after all they are still on the accredited list ATM.

    IMPO I wouldn't be going near any of the current and ex Jackpot Factory casinos, they have all gone down hill dramatically in the last few years.
     
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  4. Nov 21, 2013
  5. akrus88

    akrus88 Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Finland
    If there is nothing more in to it. That is most seriously predator behavior and the casino should be voided.
    You should PAB as soon as possible, interesting to heard result of it. Good luck with the case! I am sure it will come around alright for you :thumbsup:.
     
  6. Nov 21, 2013
  7. JohnnyWalk

    JohnnyWalk Dormant account

    Occupation:
    poker
    Location:
    HousofGod

    I have been a member from July played with bonus and without is it worth doing a PAB over this? I will talk to the manager first and hear what he has to say maybe I could talk him over of just removing the bonus and I will ask what the wagering is. I still not know that. Who is there casinorep is he still active on the casinomeister forum?
     
  8. Nov 21, 2013
  9. mattsgame

    mattsgame Ueber Meister CAG webmeister

    Occupation:
    Web Master
    Location:
    Clown Town
    If First Web is still actually part of the Jackpot Factory group, then you can try the Jackpot Factory Rep
     
  10. Nov 21, 2013
  11. JohnnyWalk

    JohnnyWalk Dormant account

    Occupation:
    poker
    Location:
    HousofGod
    Send a PM to the jackpotfactory rep. If he could help me remove the unwanted bonus and I am waiting for the phone call of the pitboss. I will keep this thread updated if I hear anything new.

    Regards

    Johnny
     
  12. Nov 21, 2013
  13. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    The wagering terms for all bonuses can be found on each casino's website (though they can take some digging to find and patience to interpret).
    For JF casinos it is Bonus x 50 (or x60 for any 100% Welcome Bonus). The wagering contributions are as follows:
    Slots, American Roulette and Parlor Games – 100%
    Table Poker games (excluding Gold Series Table Poker games), Casino War, Sicbo – 50%
    Video Poker games, Gold Series Table Poker games, Craps, Baccarat, all Blackjacks except Classic Blackjack, and all Roulettes except American Roulette – 10%
    Classic Blackjack, All Aces Video/Power Poker – 2%.
    So for example, you would have to wager €1,500 on slots to clear the WR on your €30 bonus.

    HOWEVER, I agree with the above posters and you should insist they remove this bonus, in accordance with their Accredited Status.

    KK
     
    2 people like this.
  14. Nov 21, 2013
  15. JohnnyWalk

    JohnnyWalk Dormant account

    Occupation:
    poker
    Location:
    HousofGod
    Well got an email from the support sooner then I expected with some positive news.

    Hi xxx,


    Congratulations on your payout, way to go!

    We have passed your recent contact with us on to our casino management and they have approved to remove the bonus. You can now go ahead and make your withdrawal.

    Hopefully this is a wise lesson for this casino that it is unacceptable to do this and will not do it again. Well thanks everyone for the input.

    Regards

    Johnny
     
    6 people like this.
  16. Nov 22, 2013
  17. tryme

    tryme Experienced Member PABnononaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    Why Do People Always Ask That
    Location:
    Kent, UK
    Good to know they did the right thing. They shouldn't have tried it on in the first place, of course, but a positive outcome nonetheless.
     
  18. Nov 22, 2013
  19. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    I've contacted the casino rep to make sure this will not be repeated. If the Jackpot Factory Group is implementing this practice, then they will be removed from the accredited section.
     
    8 people like this.
  20. Nov 22, 2013
  21. mattsgame

    mattsgame Ueber Meister CAG webmeister

    Occupation:
    Web Master
    Location:
    Clown Town
    Bryan, are these casinos still part of Jackpot Factory? We know that Wild Jack is not but yet it is managed by Nexigames LTD the same company now listed as managing all of the other Jackpot Factory casinos.
     
  22. Nov 22, 2013
  23. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Are far as I know, the Jackpot Factory casinos include Alljackpots, Allslots, and FirstWeb Casino.
     
  24. Nov 22, 2013
  25. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    They also have a "private" casino called VIP Lounge - but members can only get in by personal invite after joining and playing at one of their other brands.
    (A bit like 32Red's Club Rouge)

    KK
     

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