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Prisoners VS The Elderly

Discussion in 'The Attic' started by rockycatt, Sep 18, 2013.

    Sep 18, 2013
  1. rockycatt

    rockycatt meistercatt CAG MM

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    Prisoners VS The Elderly: 599213_615372401811042_84771650_n.jpg,Sep 18, 2013
     
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  2. Sep 18, 2013
  3. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account webmeister

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    This is so sad but true !

    I say bring back the old chain gangs and make them chip away rocks and pick up trash or any hard labor tasks but then you will have those who say they and their civil rights are being abused:mad:

    We must put our elderly and childrens needs first before a common criminal !

    Laurie
     
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  4. Sep 18, 2013
  5. BingoT

    BingoT Nurses love to give shots webmeister

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    A criminal has a better life than the old.
    And they get treated better & I seen this in my life.
    I say give them all in jail a gun & let them go at it & after go inside & pick the trash up.
    Just think our taxes my get better in the long run.
     
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  6. Sep 18, 2013
  7. diva2000

    diva2000 Dormant account

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    Totally Agree with you Laurie. It makes we angry to acknowledge the harsh truth and reality!


     
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  8. Sep 19, 2013
  9. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

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    Rockycatt, have you ever been in prison? I haven't but I have a friend who has (she was found not guilty in the end) and it was not the fun experience you seem to think it is. She was in a cell designed for 2 but holding 3, she had to sleep on a mattress on the floor and there was no tv, computer or gym.
     
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  10. Sep 19, 2013
  11. maxd

    maxd Complaints (PAB) Manager Staff Member

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    Having lived in Canada, the US and now Europe I'd have to say that the way old people are treated seems to have a lot to do with what emphasis the prevailing culture places on youth.

    In Europe I've generally seen that people over 60 are treated fairly well, with some amount of respect you could say. Not always of course and it's certainly not perfect but still, being old doesn't automatically make you worthless here, as far as I've seen. In my experience this is not at all so in the US: youth and wealth are the beautiful things, anything else is ... not. Canada would probably be somewhere in the middle.

    As to prisoners I haven't a clue. Never been one, never knew any well enough to learn anything useful.
     
  12. Sep 19, 2013
  13. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG MM

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    I love when someone can admit not knowing so much about prisoners, but I hate when people can say something like was said in this very thread, that give them guns and let them kill each other.
    People in prisons might have committed a crime but that doesn't mean that all of them deserves to die. They are humans too and they have different reasons for ending up like a prisoner.
    I have people in my own family that have been in prison. I know all about prisons here, and I do know that no one feels like they are on a vacation.
    I think it's lousy to even compare these two groups of people.

    It's horrible the way elders are treated in many countries. Focus on that instead of comparing. Prisoners doesn't make the rules.
     
  14. Sep 19, 2013
  15. maxd

    maxd Complaints (PAB) Manager Staff Member

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    I did get to meet some convicts. I was working on a film crew and there was a work gang -- yes, no joke -- nearby who were upgrading some trails in a national park. I was assigned to coordinate their work, and the noise they were making, with the film crew shooting not too far away.

    The cons were some pretty hardcore guys who'd done a lot of time and were being given some outside duties for good behaviour. One guy was in for multiple homicide, another for kidnapping, a third for killing a cop during a drug bust, etc. Some of their stories I was able to verify by doing a bit of research, the others I couldn't speak for. In any case I'd have to say they seemed like reasonably decent fellows, not monsters or anything, but their time inside had obviously effected them deeply. They seemed to yearn for stories from the outside, people's normal lives, regular folk doing regular things. They bent over backwards to make friends, and no they didn't ask for anything or try to get personal details from me.

    I ended up seeing their crew several times over the course of a week or two. My prevailing memory of it is sadness: theirs (it seemed) for the lives they'd ended up living in prison; mine for the realisation that these guys were aliens to me, that I could never really know who they were or extend enough trust to find out. Kind of a "ships in the night" feeling really, a few things in common but worlds apart when it came down to it.

    Doesn't have anything to do with the elderly but someone got us talking about prisoners so ....
     
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  16. Sep 19, 2013
  17. rockycatt

    rockycatt meistercatt CAG MM

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    i have first hand knowledge of what life is in a county prison [i spoke to prisoner's in there quite a bit ,i ran AA meetings ]

    now to your question of if its funny of course its not, the biggest pain of it i found was the pain these people brought to there family's

    sticking to the OP this was referring to the budget cost of persons that committed crimes verses people that never committed anything except working there entire life then finding them selves in a nursing home not in control of there freedom


    Your friend in gaming R C
    PS the OP wasn't posted to defame any one it was posted to illustrate what it says economically
     
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