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Hi Nate,

Some questions take time to get an answer to since I need to check with the right managers within the company. I will come back to you as soon as I can :)

Br,

Daniel
Thanks Dan

Didn't know you were on it as you didn't reply.

Now I know :)

Nate
 
Hi Daniel :)

So, Peking Luck has a max prize of 180,000x stake (!).

At Videoslots the bet limit is £2.50, so that means a 'jackpot hit' would be £450,000. (!)

Two questions:

1) Is it the casino's responsibility to pay out this prize should it be won, or do Pragmatic pay it like MG do with the Mega Moolah jackpot? (i.e. Pragmatic cover it as sort of 'insurance'.)

2) Do you feel this headline figure is really a major selling point for the game? HV games are one thing, but is 180,000x something players have been asking for? That'd pay for eighteen wins of 10,000x distributed elsewhere on the slot, which is still a massive hit.

My personal feeling is that this game muddies the waters between a HV game and a progressive game.

ALSO NOTE - If you win £450,000 on this slot at Videoslots, according to their T&Cs it'd take you one year and three months to get paid at their maximum payout of £30,000 per month. You may want to check the T&Cs of the casino you are playing at, to see how long it'd take you get paid nearly half a million quid from a non-progressive game....

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Hi Daniel :)

So, Peking Luck has a max prize of 180,000x stake (!).

At Videoslots the bet limit is £2.50, so that means a 'jackpot hit' would be £450,000. (!)

Two questions:

1) Is it the casino's responsibility to pay out this prize should it be won, or do Pragmatic pay it like MG do with the Mega Moolah jackpot? (i.e. Pragmatic cover it as sort of 'insurance'.)

2) Do you feel this headline figure is really a major selling point for the game? HV games are one thing, but is 180,000x something players have been asking for? That'd pay for eighteen wins of 10,000x distributed elsewhere on the slot, which is still a massive hit.

My personal feeling is that this game muddies the waters between a HV game and a progressive game.

ALSO NOTE - If you win £450,000 on this slot at Videoslots, according to their T&Cs it'd take you one year and three months to get paid at their maximum payout of £30,000 per month. You may want to check the T&Cs of the casino you are playing at, to see how long it'd take you get paid nearly half a million quid from a non-progressive game....

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Hi ChopleyIOM,

I will do my best to answer your questions.

1. It is the casino's responsibility to pay the money. You will notice that different casinos have different maximum bet on the Peking Luck and its because of the maximum liability the casino is willing to take.

2. We are doing a different type of slots where some have insane potential and some have less. What many forget sometimes is that there are many nice big wins between 1x and 180 000x. I mean I would be more than thrilled to get a 10 000x win!

I will bring your thoughts and feedback with me to the team!

Have a fantastic day.

Br

Daniel
 
Thanks Daniel I appreciate the quick and informative response :)

This does raise an issue for players though, as any massive win on Peking Luck would be subject to the casino's maximum cashout rules. Even a solid joint like Videoslots states £30,000 per month, so a player max spinning at £2.50 per spin hitting the 180,000x stake prize would have to wait FIFTEEN MONTHS to be paid in full.

Clearly there is the potential for this payout time to be far longer where casinos offer bigger stakes and have lower maximum cashout policies.

I realise this isn't 'Pragmatic Play's fault' as it were, but the banner headline figure of 180,000x stake maximum prize should perhaps come with the caveat - 'Time for the player to be paid this prize may be dependent on the casino's cashout policies'.

Indeed, the casinos aren't really talking on a maximum liability of 180,000x stake insofar as they basically get to spread that liability over well over a year of monthly payments! (And what happens if the casino folds within a month or two? Would the player ever get paid?)

I might try that with my next deposit, 'Yeah I'll deposit the rest over the next 15 months, but give me the full balance to play with now please.....' :D
 
This does raise an issue for players though, as any massive win on Peking Luck would be subject to the casino's maximum cashout rules. Even a solid joint like Videoslots states £30,000 per month, so a player max spinning at £2.50 per spin hitting the 180,000x stake prize would have to wait FIFTEEN MONTHS to be paid in full.

I asked, back then, about big wins and this term. Answer was that they will try to pay big wins like that in one go.
 
I had quite a few free spin rewards at Videoslots following my session yesterday, most of them on other Pragmatic games, which gave me a reason to open them up and have a look at least. (The spins were just 5 or 10 spins, so not enough to get any sort of feel for the games.) One of them was on a slot called '7 Monkeys' which I quite liked the aesthetics of.

Loaded it up this morning with a view to perhaps having a further go at it with real funds, had a quick look through the rules as I always do before playing a new slot, and was shocked to see this in the help file.

92.71% RTP! Is this the highest RTP variant of this game (in which case, for shame!), or are VS running a lower RTP variant of it? (Which would surprise me as VS have stated they always run the highest RTP variant of a slot.)

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I had quite a few free spin rewards at Videoslots following my session yesterday, most of them on other Pragmatic games, which gave me a reason to open them up and have a look at least. (The spins were just 5 or 10 spins, so not enough to get any sort of feel for the games.) One of them was on a slot called '7 Monkeys' which I quite liked the aesthetics of.

Loaded it up this morning with a view to perhaps having a further go at it with real funds, had a quick look through the rules as I always do before playing a new slot, and was shocked to see this in the help file.

92.71% RTP! Is this the highest RTP variant of this game (in which case, for shame!), or are VS running a lower RTP variant of it? (Which would surprise me as VS have stated they always run the highest RTP variant of a slot.)

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Nope, VS aren't doing anything underhand, the factory TRTP of this game is a shocking 92.71%. I added it to my files a while back and just checked.:mad:


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The Freespin Feature is everytime 50 FS but also everytime only x1 you cant get any higher....and 35-40 are Deadspins....
 
Hi all,

7 Monkies is an old title and I had to double check this morning and the slot does only have 1 setting on 92.71% RTP. A lot of time has gone since we released that slot and our releases now are around 96-97% RTP as standard.

Br,

Daniel
 
Thanks Daniel I appreciate the quick and informative response :)

This does raise an issue for players though, as any massive win on Peking Luck would be subject to the casino's maximum cashout rules. Even a solid joint like Videoslots states £30,000 per month, so a player max spinning at £2.50 per spin hitting the 180,000x stake prize would have to wait FIFTEEN MONTHS to be paid in full.

Clearly there is the potential for this payout time to be far longer where casinos offer bigger stakes and have lower maximum cashout policies.

I realise this isn't 'Pragmatic Play's fault' as it were, but the banner headline figure of 180,000x stake maximum prize should perhaps come with the caveat - 'Time for the player to be paid this prize may be dependent on the casino's cashout policies'.

Indeed, the casinos aren't really talking on a maximum liability of 180,000x stake insofar as they basically get to spread that liability over well over a year of monthly payments! (And what happens if the casino folds within a month or two? Would the player ever get paid?)

I might try that with my next deposit, 'Yeah I'll deposit the rest over the next 15 months, but give me the full balance to play with now please.....' :D

I admire your persistence but don't forget you're talking to "the company formerly known as Topgame" which should give you an indication of how much they care.

I'm sure there will soon be a statement pasted in here from PP lawyers saying they are a totally seperate company and hav no relation to Topgame yadda yadda even though it is on public record that they are
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David Barzilay and employ many of the same staff. Or maybe they will have my post removed like they have done with others on this forum that revealed this association.

Put it this way I wouldnt touch this providers games with somebody elses money.
 
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Hi all,

We are done with our maintenance and you should be able to play our slots again.

Br,

Daniel


Sadly, I have to say! Seems you set ripping mode.
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I thought this can do only MG! Not a single win, and triggering this is very tricky.

Complete disaster with PP slots today.

I am not surprised that M. Destiny or Da Vinci are dangerous, but Wolf Gold, Pixies's or Rhino....robbery, pure robbery. Also, I don't understand the point of Wolf Gold free spins which:
a) never come
b) when they come, they are disaster
c) have weak potential...

I guess I have to pay the price for getting 5 scatter retrigger (Madame Destiny) in very first session...:(
Random? No way!
 
I love wolf gold bonus (the moon thing) but not a fan of the free spins...
But then I guess that love/dislike of a game is often based on personal success and this bonus has been very nice on a couple of occasions x
typed as I was :)
agreed - the moon bonus has often been kind to me
 
Has to be the absolute worst slot provider in the current market. All your slots are total scam machines.

Next to impossible to trigger bonus on any of your game and biggest wins seams to be 10-15x betsize.

I really cannot grasp how this company is still in buisness with these games? Who the hell plays this shit?
 
Has to be the absolute best slot provider in the current market. All your slots are the best.

Super easy to trigger bonus on any of your games and smallest wins seams to be 100-150x betsize.

I really cannot grasp how any other company is still in buisness against these games? Who the hell plays other slots?


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Sorry, I am off my meds today... :oops:
 
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