Hello from Daniel Pragmatic Play

Hi Dan,

Can you check the following games, because I can't find the RTP inside the info/paytable in them.

romeo-and-juliet
lady-of-the-moon
aladdin-s-treasure
great-reef
the-catfather
glorious-rome
tales-of-egypt
hockey-league
dwarven-gold (not the deluxe)

Hi nikantw,

I will take a look and come back to you!

Br,

Daniel
 
Pragmatic Play is reviewed at Casinomeister
Hi all,

I would first like to introduce my self. My name is Daniel and I am 33 years old and I have been working in the online casino world for around 5 years now and I was active on Casinomeister for abit over 3 years when I worked at Videoslots. I have now had a nice vacation and started my new adventure at Pragmatic Play as Head of Social Marketing.

Casinomeister has always been a fantastic place to for any company to be to receive feedback about their product but also have the opportunity give back to the community with insight and clarity regarding various questions but also have fantastic competitions for the forum to join!

This thread is open for any questions, feedback or suggestions regarding Pragmatic Play and our product and how we can improve to deliver even better product!

Please feel free as always to contact me here or via PM if you have any questions and I am looking forward to being active here again.

Br,

Daniel

Welcome back Dan :thumbsup:
 
Hi all,

I would first like to introduce my self. My name is Daniel and I am 33 years old and I have been working in the online casino world for around 5 years now and I was active on Casinomeister for abit over 3 years when I worked at Videoslots. I have now had a nice vacation and started my new adventure at Pragmatic Play as Head of Social Marketing.

Casinomeister has always been a fantastic place to for any company to be to receive feedback about their product but also have the opportunity give back to the community with insight and clarity regarding various questions but also have fantastic competitions for the forum to join!

This thread is open for any questions, feedback or suggestions regarding Pragmatic Play and our product and how we can improve to deliver even better product!

Please feel free as always to contact me here or via PM if you have any questions and I am looking forward to being active here again.

Br,

Daniel
Welcome back Dan, great to have you again! :)
I dont have any questions but a bit of criticism instead. I feel like theres way too much teasing going on on Madame Destiny -- im fine with teasing for Bonuses and perhaps for 5OAKs but teasing when theres a 2OAK is pretty excessive i think (e.g. 1 wild 1 owl = tease). I know i can avoid those by using Quickspins but well... they certainly are very quick. :D I think this is the case for some other games aswell, not sure though.

Other than that the new Games do look good and im wishing you all the best with your new employer :)
 
Hi all,

I would first like to introduce my self. My name is Daniel and I am 33 years old and I have been working in the online casino world for around 5 years now and I was active on Casinomeister for abit over 3 years when I worked at Videoslots. I have now had a nice vacation and started my new adventure at Pragmatic Play as Head of Social Marketing.

Casinomeister has always been a fantastic place to for any company to be to receive feedback about their product but also have the opportunity give back to the community with insight and clarity regarding various questions but also have fantastic competitions for the forum to join!

This thread is open for any questions, feedback or suggestions regarding Pragmatic Play and our product and how we can improve to deliver even better product!

Please feel free as always to contact me here or via PM if you have any questions and I am looking forward to being active here again.

Br,

Daniel
Yeah welcome back to the forum Daniel. I love Pragmatic games as they have great potential. They can also drain a bankroll even faster than Netent so there seems to be little in between. I still love the provider just wanted to add my 2 cents. Love the innovation like the in game jackpots but would like to see Pragmatic become more innovate and include some random in game features and themes etc.
 
Hello Dan, hope you're well and enjoying your new job :)

Pragmatic are certainly heading in the right direction and some of the stuff they've released this last year or so I've been quite impressed with. Most of it is straightforward 5 reels, 3 rows with a Free Game feature but some of the ideas within those confines are quite innovative. The 0-5 volatility rating on the splash-screen of a lot of their games is a nice touch. The RTP% on offer is usually very competitive and they'll give the likes of Novomatic a run for their money as a lot of their stuff still goes out on 95. I really liked the graphics, music and presentation of Joker Jewels but more importantly the actual game itself plays very nicely; PP are obviously paying a lot of attention to the maths and profile of their slots and rightly so if you want to attract and retain players, especially in Europe. Madame Destiny is a decent clone attempt of Lucky Lady's Charm but as mentioned by others the long tease spins for trivial wins is irritating especially on a high-variance game like that. Thank goodness for the Turbo Spin option!

Feedback-wise I can only comment on the user interface really this time round. Ideally you want sliders or buttons on the autoplay pop-up box so I don't have to manually type in a max loss value, as it's a bit of an inconvenience when I'm sat back in my comfy seat. The real gripe though is that if I type a value in that is higher than my credit, it doesn't accept it, and then when I press backspace to delete that number the game exits (Videoslots, I don't know about any other sites). They've sort of copied NetEnt's autoplay controls but made it a bit worse... Also, there's an odd slow count-up of winnings that doesn't snap to the final value unless you play another game, which feels a bit ragged.

They've done well getting you in Dan, made a real statement of intent ;)

All the best!

Lemon
 
Hi Dan!

I posted this in another thread but don't mind pragmatic at all, I was going to play more of them just the other day but will try and do so but I get the feeling from them that you can't win big but are good balance booster's. :)
 
Hi Dan,

Can you check the following games, because I can't find the RTP inside the info/paytable in them.

romeo-and-juliet
lady-of-the-moon
aladdin-s-treasure
great-reef
the-catfather
glorious-rome
tales-of-egypt
hockey-league
dwarven-gold (not the deluxe)

Hi nikantw,

I had a check with our product team and they informed me that the slots you proved are older slots and they are a very small portion of our slot portfolio today. We implemented a new standard on the slots that got released after the mentioned slots where RTP would a part of the paytable as default.

The Standard RTP for the following slots are.

Romeo and Juliet 96.18%
Lady of the Moon 96.52%
Aladdin's Treasure 96.58%
Great Reef 96.64%
The Catfather 96.52%
Glorious Rome 94.11 %
Tales of Egypt 91.93 %
Hockey League 91.93 %
Dwarven Gold 96.64%
Sugar Rush 96.52%

Br,

Daniel
 
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Hello Dan, hope you're well and enjoying your new job :)

Pragmatic are certainly heading in the right direction and some of the stuff they've released this last year or so I've been quite impressed with. Most of it is straightforward 5 reels, 3 rows with a Free Game feature but some of the ideas within those confines are quite innovative. The 0-5 volatility rating on the splash-screen of a lot of their games is a nice touch. The RTP% on offer is usually very competitive and they'll give the likes of Novomatic a run for their money as a lot of their stuff still goes out on 95. I really liked the graphics, music and presentation of Joker Jewels but more importantly the actual game itself plays very nicely; PP are obviously paying a lot of attention to the maths and profile of their slots and rightly so if you want to attract and retain players, especially in Europe. Madame Destiny is a decent clone attempt of Lucky Lady's Charm but as mentioned by others the long tease spins for trivial wins is irritating especially on a high-variance game like that. Thank goodness for the Turbo Spin option!

Feedback-wise I can only comment on the user interface really this time round. Ideally you want sliders or buttons on the autoplay pop-up box so I don't have to manually type in a max loss value, as it's a bit of an inconvenience when I'm sat back in my comfy seat. The real gripe though is that if I type a value in that is higher than my credit, it doesn't accept it, and then when I press backspace to delete that number the game exits (Videoslots, I don't know about any other sites). They've sort of copied NetEnt's autoplay controls but made it a bit worse... Also, there's an odd slow count-up of winnings that doesn't snap to the final value unless you play another game, which feels a bit ragged.

They've done well getting you in Dan, made a real statement of intent ;)

All the best!

Lemon

Hi Lemon that is fantastic feedback and I will bring that to our product team!


Br,

Daniel
 
Madame Destiny is a decent clone attempt of Lucky Lady's Charm

I agree with most of your post but on this I have to disagree. I am a HUGE fan of LLC and I am playing Madame Destiny for some time now as it was looking like a decent clone of LLC but the wins both base game and/or free spins are not even coming near the wins on LLC.
Also LLC has for my feeling much higher changes in retriggering the free spins as I have won up to 135 free spins on that slot.

Also on LLC I have had many 500x + wins in the free spins where on MD I haven't got past 50-60x ish.

Madame Destiny is a wannabe clone and if it wants to compete with LLC it better starts showing it's potential which I am sure it has.
But I haven't had anything over 65x which is shocking.
Even when the free spins retriggered twice it were mostly dead spins.

As said before, Pragmatic Slots play very solid and sleek, like the designs and the music but for me personally: Where are the pays!!! :)

And I do play them in most of my sessions, waiting for a good win to come my way one day so I also can start believing Pragmatic Slots can pay big.
 
I agree with most of your post but on this I have to disagree. I am a HUGE fan of LLC and I am playing Madame Destiny for some time now as it was looking like a decent clone of LLC but the wins both base game and/or free spins are not even coming near the wins on LLC.
Also LLC has for my feeling much higher changes in retriggering the free spins as I have won up to 135 free spins on that slot.

Also on LLC I have had many 500x + wins in the free spins where on MD I haven't got past 50-60x ish.

Madame Destiny is a wannabe clone and if it wants to compete with LLC it better starts showing it's potential which I am sure it has.
But I haven't had anything over 65x which is shocking.
Even when the free spins retriggered twice it were mostly dead spins.

As said before, Pragmatic Slots play very solid and sleek, like the designs and the music but for me personally: Where are the pays!!! :)

And I do play them in most of my sessions, waiting for a good win to come my way one day so I also can start believing Pragmatic Slots can pay big.

Yeah I was probably being a bit generous there. What I meant to say was that on the face of it Madame Destiny is a decent enough attempt at a clone, and the fact you can play it quickly and at a higher RTP% than LLC it does have its advantages. Over a short session many people wouldn't really see much of a difference between the two.

But die-hard fans of LLC such as yourself will see the differences quite quickly, as have I. I've played 26,000 games on MD which isn't that many in the grand scheme of things (and certainly only a fraction of the spins I must have played on LLC), but already I can see that the feature trigger hit rate is a fair bit worse on MD. I've already gone well over 1000 spins on MD on a few occasions without triggering. I'd say the hit rate of the feature on MD is about 1/300, but it would be nice to see some Slot Tracker info to see for sure. I reckon the retrigger chance is pretty close but maybe a fraction short of what LLC is, which makes a big difference. MD is also missing that tiny subtlety in the feature that LLC has, in that you can subconciously 'learn' the reelstrips and be able to spot things, such as if you see a ladybird symbol at the top of reel 5, you know you've got a scatter at the bottom (and a 9 in the middle) due to the layout of the reelstrips. I love looking out for that when I've got two or more scatters on the first 4 reels :) Purely an incidental by-product of the way the reels are laid out, but nice nonetheless. The symbol reveal in free games on MD is a bit too quick to be able to 'learn' where the scatters are on the reels, and it all just washes over you. Very small details like this allow the player to feel more in control when they're playing. It's a nice feeling knowing you've retriggered before the scatter is revealed :)

I'm at 91% after 26,000 games on MD, so about 5.5% short of the displayed 96.5% RTP. Some of that will be from getting unlucky whenever I've increased my stake slightly, but I'm still a fair bit under. I reckon 5 scatters in the feature will sort that out.
 
Hi nikantw,

I had a check with our product team and they informed me that the slots you proved are older slots and they are a very small portion of our slot portfolio today. We implemented a new standard on the slots that got released after the mentioned slots where RTP would a part of the paytable as default.

The Standard RTP for the following slots are.

Romeo and Juliet 96.18%
Lady of the Moon 96.52%
Aladdin's Treasure 96.58%
Great Reef 96.64%
The Catfather 96.52%
Glorious Rome 94.11 %
Tales of Egypt 91.93 %
Hockey League 91.93 %
Dwarven Gold 96.64%
Sugar Rush 96.52%

Br,

Daniel

People should note this rtp will only apply at casinos who you know offer the highest rtp setting. As I have went through some different casinos they offer pragmatic games with a 92% rtp version instead of the 96%.
 
Hi @Dan_Pragmatic , welcome back, i am sure enjoying playing new slots from pragmatic, my fav is Da vinci, and my wife actually is big fan of pragmatic, she love 7 monkeys ( she is on that one from day 1) and hot safari, now i must to play even more pragmatic as a small token of gratitude for everything you done for us here.
 
Any reason why real money play and demo play get different autoplay options? Demo play gets the better menu as well!

This is at Videoslots, real money on the left hand side, demo money on the right hand side.

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Any reason why real money play and demo play get different autoplay options? Demo play gets the better menu as well!

This is at Videoslots, real money on the left hand side, demo money on the right hand side.

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I'm just gonna come out with it. They're different versions of the same game :eek::eek:

(Demo Play is better)

:eek:
 
Hi,

Different regulations require different autoplay settings and our demo mode have the same autoplay settings as we use for UKGC to comply with regulations and this is why it the settings can look different if you are not coming from the UK when you play with real money.

As per regulation, the demo mode cannot be tampered with and pay differently from real money mode so there is no difference at all when it comes to payout.

Br,

Daniel
 
Thanks for the explanation Daniel.

So to clear this up, what I'm seeing when I'm playing in demo mode are UKGC compliant autoplay settings, but when I'm playing in real money mode I'm seeing the 'rest of the world' autoplay settings as I'm on an Isle of Man IP? (Which doesn't count as a UK IP.)

The concern I have with this is that the UKGC compliant autoplay settings are clearly more focused on responsible gambling, not least because the player can define a loss-limit for the autoplayer, and it caps out at 100 spins instead of 1000 spins.

Why do Pragmatic Play knowingly make their 'rest of the world' autoplayer settings more conducive to longer play sessions with no loss restrictions?
 
Thanks for the explanation Daniel.

So to clear this up, what I'm seeing when I'm playing in demo mode are UKGC compliant autoplay settings, but when I'm playing in real money mode I'm seeing the 'rest of the world' autoplay settings as I'm on an Isle of Man IP? (Which doesn't count as a UK IP.)

The concern I have with this is that the UKGC compliant autoplay settings are clearly more focused on responsible gambling, not least because the player can define a loss-limit for the autoplayer, and it caps out at 100 spins instead of 1000 spins.

Why do Pragmatic Play knowingly make their 'rest of the world' autoplayer settings more conducive to longer play sessions with no loss restrictions?

Same reason as others do - there's nothing to stop them outside the UK. As a player, on tedious games grinding out a WR it's a benefit to be able to set 5000 or unlimited spins isn't it? I remember you doing exactly the same once, leaving Tunzamunni on autoplay overnight....

I see tens of new games a week and nearly all have the old lemniscate on them for indefinite spins, something that is removed when the game is playable for real in the UK region.
 
You guys wanna talk HV. Play the Peking slot by these guys. Did a $100+$100. Lost $200 on 25 cent bets with no bonus. Never seen anything like that in my life aside from bonanza possible and biggest win was 19x.

Wont play this provider again most likely. Not a fan of provider that make slots that are capable of that garbage.

Jurassic giants is another horrific nightmare slot. All bonus pays 10-30x. Never seen anyone get 100x on it.

Terrible provider
 

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