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POTENTIAL SPAM WARNING!! Player lists for sale.

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Casinomeister, Dec 6, 2005.

    Dec 6, 2005
  1. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    There is an a-hole out there in cyberland who is attempting to sell player lists. He is contacting various affiliate managers offering to sell this garbage. Fortunately, this was forwarded to me by an affiliate manager who is concerned about this as I am.

    For one thing, I think it's bullshit. I really don't think this person has this information. He's contacting people via a yahoo account. And if you're stupid enough to purchase this spam list....

    Another thing, most casinos keep their databases encrypted and under lock and key. This guy is trying to come across like this is easily obtainable information.

    Also, this is a reason why it is important to sign up at casinos using different email addresses. This way if a database gets compromised, you know where it happened.

    Greetings,

    I am writing to you to offer you a unique opportunity to obtain large scale databases of known gamblers for use in your direct mail and email marketing activities. The databases listed below are all available for purchase as a package deal at a rate of $15,000 USD. They may only be purchased one time as a package, and not broken up into smaller sales. These are all complete databases with known, purchasing players. If you would like to acquire this data, please reply to this email and I will write back with payment instructions.

    Kind regards,

    CM702


    Aces Gold
    Age/Recency: September 26, 2005
    Player Count: 1,265
    Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
    Data Fields Included: Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Phone Number, Account Balance, Pending Bets, Last Deposit Amount, Date Opened, IP Address
    Additional Notes: 93 accounts have a balance over $10,000

    Alladins Gold
    Age/Recency: Unspecified Date
    Player Count: 64,000
    Emails: 100% have email, mailing address and phone number
    Data Fields Included: Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Phone Number

    Atlantis Casino
    Age/Recency: June 23, 2005
    Player Count: 797,033
    Emails: Email Only List
    Data Fields Included: Player ID, eMail Address, Total Deposit Amount, Number! of Deposits, Net Win/Loss, Games Bet, Total Bet Amount

    BoDog
    Age/Recency : November 13, 2005
    Player Count: 166,989
    Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
    Data Fields Included: Player ID, Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Phone, Number of Bets Places, Average Bet Amount, Win/Loss Amount, Win/Loss Percentage.
    Additional Notes: 74% have total loss percentage. 65% of players have a balance over $500.

    Camalot Sportsbook
    Age/Recency: Unspecified Date
    Player Count: 1,888
    Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
    Data Fields Included: Accou! nt Number, Password, Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Referred By, Payment Method, Account Balance, Total Action, Risk To Player, Risk To House, Net To Player, Hold

    CRIS
    Age/Recency: November 13, 2005
    Player Count: 187,009
    Emails: Not Represented (Mailing Address Only)
    Data Fields Included: Account Number, Password, Name, Postal Mailing Address, Account Balance

    DelMar
    Age/Recency: November 12, 2005
    Player Count: 28,955
    Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
    Data Fields Included: Account Number, Password, Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Referred By, Payment Method, Account Balance, Total Action, Risk To Player! , Risk To House, Net To Player, Hold

    DSI
    Age/Recency: November 12, 2005
    Player Count: 142,123
    Emails: Not Represented (Mailing Address Only)
    Data Fields Included : Account Number, Password, Name, Postal Mailing Address, Account Balance

    Gamblers Avenue
    Age/Recency: November 14, 2005
    Player Count: 86,000
    Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
    Data Fields Included: Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address

    Gold Medal
    Age/Recency: November 12, 2005
    Player Count: 56,000
    Emails! : Email Only List
    Data Fields Included: Name, eMail Address

    Gold Medal II
    Age/Recency: November 12, 2005
    Player Count: 18,199
    Emails: 2,000 have email and mailing address. Remainder are mailing address only
    Data Fields Included: Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address for 2000

    Heritage Sports
    Age/Recency: November 12, 2005
    Player Count: 2,625
    Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
    Data Fields Included: Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Phone Number,

    Intertops
    Age/Recency: November 13, 2005
    ! Player Count: 118,000
    Emails: Not Represented (Mailing Address Only)
    Data Fields Included: Name, Postal Mailing Address

    Olympic Sports
    Age/Recency: November 13, 2005
    Player Count: 212,444
    Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
    Data Fields Included : Name, Date of Birth, Postal Mailing Addess, Phone Number, eMail Address, Account Balance
    Additional Notes: 81% are active players, with 42% having balances over $1500.

    Pinnacle
    Age/Recency: November 14, 2005
    Player Count: 345,027
    Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
    Data Fields Included: Account Number, Password, Name, Postal M! ailing Address, eMail Address, Phone Number, IP Address

    Roxy Palace Casino
    Age/Recency: September 6, 2005
    Player Count: 19,456
    Emails: Email List Only
    Data Fields Included: Name, eMail Address

    Royal Sports
    Age/Recency: November 13, 2005
    Player Count: 102,000
    Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
    Data Fields Included: Player ID, Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Phone, Number of Bets Places, Average Bet Amount, Win/Loss Amount, Win/Loss Percentage.
    Additional Notes: 91% have losing percentages. 15% have balances over the $1500 average.

    (The) Rx
    Age/Recency: November 14, 2005
    Player Count: 102,000
    Emails: 100% Email Only List
    Data Fields Included: Name, eMail Address

    SirBet
    Age/Recency: November 13, 2005
    Player Count: 109,056
    Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
    Data Fields Included: Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Account Balance, Pending Wagers
    Additional Notes: 89% having loss percentages - 48% have funds in their account.

    Unknown Sportsbook
    Age/Recency: November 13, 2005
    Player Count: 142,825
    Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
    Data Fields Included: Player ID, Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Total Deposit Amount, Number of Deposits, Net Win/Loss, Number of Games Bet, Total Amount of Bets

    Unspecified Listings
    Age/Recency: Various Dates
    Player Count: 1,200,000
    Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
    Data Fields Included: Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Phone Number
    Additional Notes: Some listings contain account balances, preferred payment method, outstanding wagers, credit limits (if applicable)

    VIP Sports
    Age/Recency: November 13, 2005
    Player Count: 218,000
    Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
    Data F! ields Included: Account Number, Name, Postal Mailing Address, Phone Number, Phone II, eMail Address, Account Balance, Pending Wagers, Last Deposit Amount, Date Opened, IP Address, Credit Limit (If Applicable)

    Wallstreet Super Book
    Age/Recency: November 12, 2005
    Player Count: 30,000
    Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
    Data Fields Included: Name, Date of Birth, Postal Mailing Address, Phone Number, eMail Address, Account Balance
    Additional Notes: 89 players have an account balance over $10,000

    WWTS
    Age/Recency: November 05, 2005
    Player Count: 210,385
    Emails: Not Represented (Mailing Address Only)
    Data Fields Included: Account Number, Name, Postal Mailing Address, Phone Number, Customer Service Notes, Account Balance, eMail Address, Win/Loss Amount, Win/Loss Percentage, IP Address

    EZ Bet
    Age/Recency: Unspecified Date
    Player Count: 1,824
    Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
    Data Fields Included: Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Phone Number
     
  2. Dec 6, 2005
  3. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    What an idiot :axeman2:


    (him, not you CM!)
     
  4. Dec 6, 2005
  5. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

    Occupation:
    webmistress
    Location:
    The Boonies
    Hmm, I wonder if this is real. It has more detail than the usual scam lists.

    But then this could be easily faked.

    $15,000 is awfully cheap - unless he plans to sell to all takers. Real opt in lists for sale usually cost ten to twenty times that, cover only one property and are only sold once or twice.

    My guess is that this is fake.
     
  6. Dec 6, 2005
  7. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    That's what I think. The guy's name is in the email (I removed it for the posting) and he has a semi-prominent site (sportbooks).

    He probably has made a couple of enemies in this industry and someone is trying to make him look bad.

    The reason I'm posting this is to nip this in the bud right off the bat (wow, two idioms in the same sentence!). Purchasing lists like this is nothing but trouble.
     
  8. Dec 7, 2005
  9. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Addresses

    I'm not sure about using different E-mails at diffenent casinos. When I started playing I got the impression that this would get you flagged as "suspicious". I have also been told that I must use the same E-mail address that I use for my deposit options; in particular that my Neteller E-mail must be the same as my casino registered E-mail or I cannot be paid via Neteller. I have not heard anything to contradict this view since.
     
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  10. Dec 7, 2005
  11. uungy

    uungy Dormant account PABnononaccred PABnoaccred PABaccred

    I am sure with all those names, why not ask for one as a sample! (hope he doesnt give mine as one:lolup: )
     
  12. Dec 7, 2005
  13. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

    Occupation:
    webmistress
    Location:
    The Boonies
    Samples are customary, extensive samples, but I bet this one wouldn't give you any samples.

    You can buy junk lists with names all over the place - this maybe some of those, with the guy going through some trouble to make them look gambling oriented.

    If he makes enough sales it'll be well worth his trouble.
     
  14. Dec 11, 2005
  15. schnozzy

    schnozzy Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Consultant
    Location:
    Ohio
    <em>Data Fields Included: Account Number, Password, Name, Postal M! ailing Address, eMail Address, Phone Number, IP Address</em>

    All this on a sportsbook that caters towards high-rollers. Yeah, right.

    If all my info was really on this list, I'd close my account immediately even if it meant the end of -105 hockey, -104 football, and a Formula 1 handicapper who doesn't seem to follow the sport at all.

    Oh, and the WWTS entry apparently doesn't have emails, but also has emails.
     
  16. Dec 11, 2005
  17. slotchik

    slotchik Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Marketing
    Location:
    USA
    I'll sell you my email for $10.00. You can have it :) LOL
     
  18. Jan 18, 2008
  19. rob3786

    rob3786 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    casino affiliate director
    Location:
    london
    I'll undercut him you can have mine for $5 lol I am a high roller (in my scale of things) sometimes I deposit $50 lol
     
  20. Jan 18, 2008
  21. RobWin

    RobWin closed account

    Occupation:
    Who knows?
    Location:
    A Vault!
    I say Hang Him and Hang Him High ! That's all I need is more damn spam....jeeze.... how in the hell could he have gotten this from Bodog if in fact he really does have this list ? :mad::mad::mad:
     
    Last edited: Jun 26, 2010
  22. Jan 18, 2008
  23. babs7262

    babs7262 Banned User

    Occupation:
    On Disability,p/t online slots reviewer
    Location:
    PA
    I think it's fake too because how would he be able to get all of the balances of the players accounts. Its one thing to get a hold of a username, but to get all of the pw's too?
     
  24. Jan 18, 2008
  25. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

    Occupation:
    Tradesman
    Location:
    USA
    Keep in mind this is a two year old thread:eek2:
     
    1 person likes this.
  26. Jan 18, 2008
  27. RobWin

    RobWin closed account

    Occupation:
    Who knows?
    Location:
    A Vault!
    Ahh Hell !, thanks Lojo for pointing that out. I did not even pay attention to the date Meister posted it and then rob3786 resurrected it today, but I do think it makes some sense now considering all the lame ass spam that I have received over the past year from places that I knew could not have had my email address any other way other that maybe purchasing a list to get mine...:mad:

    NOTE: My previous post still stands though....
     
  28. Jan 18, 2008
  29. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

    Occupation:
    Tradesman
    Location:
    USA
    There was some speculation (and denials ) that a major affiliate program 'moderator' offered lists for sale, but i won't cast aspursions. I think this happens more often than we know. I've started seperate email accounts for casinos and so far all is clean, but it is probably just a matter of time. There are a few I'm actually trying to 'trap' right now :D

    edit: Got one!!! Maybe... anybody know how to read full headers in gmail? This is the first ever casino spam I've gotten on a gmail account and Gold VIP CLub is the honored casino that has this particular e-addy

    The link goes to GoldenGate casino, with no active buttons but downlaod, and guess what it downloads? GOldVIP Club... coincidence? Stupidity? Hmm.

    chaofeng has several google entries in chinese.. none of the top four related to gambling, and though the google chinese translator leaves a lot to be desired, the message boards are obviously dissedents speaking in code. Oh, what a fun mystery today has granted me.:D


    from desmund lalith <chaofeng@yahoo.com> hide details 11:16 am (2 hours ago)
    to loj******@gmail.com
    date Jan 18, 2008 11:16 AM
    subject Christmas FREE BONUS!

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  30. Jan 18, 2008
  31. RobWin

    RobWin closed account

    Occupation:
    Who knows?
    Location:
    A Vault!
    Well if you do manage to trap them Lojo give me a call and I will bring my noose over....same one you saw in the picture above, havn't got to use it in awhile and I need to test it anyway to see if dryrot has set in....:D We can figure out the Drop-Distance/Time later !
     

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