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Discussion in 'Casinomeister's Poker Room' started by Nazareth, Apr 21, 2005.

    Apr 21, 2005
  1. Nazareth

    Nazareth Dormant account

    Occupation:
    gambler
    Location:
    right here
    Anyone play there? Any comments Good Bad or otherwise?
     
  2. Apr 21, 2005
  3. largeeyes

    largeeyes Dormant account

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    Might want to try the poker forum. Down the hall, first door on the right.
     
  4. Apr 22, 2005
  5. webber286

    webber286 Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
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    In general people seem to like PokerStars. A more competitive level of play compared with a PartyPoker, more on the level of Ultimate Bet.
     
  6. Apr 22, 2005
  7. Nazareth

    Nazareth Dormant account

    Occupation:
    gambler
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    Played it for a Couple of hours last night- Very nice. The Hands seemed very random & none of that 8 straight straights in a row like pokerroom gives. I really like pokerroom's software- better that pokerstar's, but pokerstars isn'r as 'patterned' as pokerroom. Everyone at the table was winning hands unlike pokerroom's where certain seats would win consistantly- I wish pokerstars would adopt software similiar to pokerroom's though.
     
  8. Apr 22, 2005
  9. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    PokerStars was the first room I ever used - but something turned me off it.
    The software was not the best - dunno if it's changed in the last 2-years..?

    For absolutely the most fun you can have with your clothes on: True Poker!
    (Best software by blinking MILES! :D )

    For loads of non-stop action, with 20,000 + opponents: Empire Poker

    These are my current favorites. :thumbsup:
     
  10. Apr 22, 2005
  11. deezamn

    deezamn Dormant account

    Location:
    Morristown, NJ
    No offense to you personally, but people like "you" should not be playing poker online if you have feelings like that (ie, there are "lucky" seats, "patterned hands".)

    Why would online poker rooms want to kill the golden cash cow they currently have going for them? Online poker is not rigged, fixed, and does not favor certain players over others. The sooner you begin to recognize this, the more you'll enjoy playing online. :)
     
  12. Apr 22, 2005
  13. Nazareth

    Nazareth Dormant account

    Occupation:
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    Don't think so? Go sign up for pokerroom and then sign up for pokerstars- play both for about a week- I'm telling you that I have been testing this at pokerroom- this isn't simply coincidence. I'm not saying it's 100% sure- but my gosh- do like I say then report back here- I think you'll find quite a difference between the two poker places. Big difference in the number of 'straight chasers' between the two places & big difference in the number of times the straights come up on the boards between the two places- those straights I listed a few posts ago were the actual straights that kept comming up- Sign up for pokerroom and see for yourself. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong- but it looks aweful suspicious to me at pokerroom. I value your opinion, but if you haven't played there then you don't know what I'm talking about. The original poster hasp layed there and agrees- Yes, we could be wrong- But I'm telling you that when I keep careful track of the seats that are winning, and then switch rooms & take that same seat, I start winning- consistantly- it has happened too many times to be coincidence or 'lucky streaks' on my part. The cards just keep falling in my favour when I take careful note & I'm the one that starts beating the flush with J over the 10 of the other persons hand-

    Just go observe for awhile & I think you might come to the conclusion that 'maybe' somethign aint right like I have- I'm not saying there are 'lucky seats' I don't beleive in that- I am saying there may be patterns going on there

    And I Am enjoying my online experience at pokerstars- Very much
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2005
  14. Apr 22, 2005
  15. deezamn

    deezamn Dormant account

    Location:
    Morristown, NJ
    Heh...I've played 10s of thousands of hands of hold 'em at pokerroom. And 100's of thousands of hands at other sites. The way I got into gambling at online casinos, was originally from playing poker online.

    I like pokerroom and have always done rather well there. The streaks you're seeing are just a result of the # of hands you're seeing/playing an hour. You'll probably get around 30 hands dealt per hour at a casino in a live game of poker. Whereas you'll probably get 80 dealt in exactly the same game online. Since you're seeing more than twice as many hands, "streaks" like that are more than twice as likely to occur.

    Glad you're enjoying it, but I found once I got over the sneaking suspicions of "something ain't right...", it's alot easier to enjoy the game, even when your cards are running cold and it seems like you'll never win another hand.
     
  16. Apr 23, 2005
  17. bpb

    bpb Banned User - repeated violations of rule 1.14 (tr PABnorogue PABnonaccred

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    You are wrong.
     
  18. Apr 23, 2005
  19. Mugwump

    Mugwump Dormant account

    Location:
    Oho
    Naz,

    I understand your concern, but you need to understand two things.

    1.) The players at pokerstars are tighter than pokerroom, a LOT tighter. When you have a lot of loose players who go too far with their hands, you are going to see many more big hands. When you hit your hand though, you will win a bigger pot.

    2.) You see a LOT more hands playing online than you do live. At least twice as many per hour. Because of this, you are going to see more strange events. In addition, the brain naturally tries to make sense out of these events, and detect patterns in them, which is not appropriate for random events.

    I like pokerstars and pokerroom. I generally play at pokerstars and UB when I'm tired of getting clobbered by junk hands. I move back to pokerroom and party poker when I'm tired of breaking even or losing due to the rake.

    Keep records at pokerstars, and move back to pokerroom for a while after you've played some good players. Check your records afterwards, I'm sure you'll see a big difference. (You must register/login in order to see the link. is good for keeping records, and You must register/login in order to see the link. also has a stats tracking feature, if you want to spend the money You must register/login in order to see the link. has an excellent program to use as well)
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2005
  20. Apr 23, 2005
  21. Nazareth

    Nazareth Dormant account

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    alright- but just got done at pokerrookm- turned $4000 into $8500 in the 25/50 rooms moving from room to room when I ran into losing streaks- Too tired to think right now- but I'll postm ore tomorrow- that observing the winning players & then moving from room to room to find thoise open seats- I'm telling you- I'm nailing some good winnings & another quick thing here- pokerstars- you don't see people going on 'winning streaks' for as long they do in pokerroom- I'll expound moreo n that tomorrow- but it could have something to do with the looser style play.

    For you pokerroom players- give it a try- it may take you a couple of moves to find the right seats because sometimes peeps will hit 2-3 hands then not hit again for a long time- but try to find the ones that are hitting about 5 out of ten then find another room with that empty seat-.

    I sit in the rooms when I'm on losing streak & don't bet & just watch the players- they'll go on winning binges & it moves from person to person- they'll win 4-5 in a row- then another will win like 3, then another will win 4-5 in a row sometimes more- I dunno-

    I'm not gonna dwell on it too much- but I'm tellin ya- I turned a losing play into a winning one doing exactly what I said. My gosh- in ten hours (not consecutavely but over two days) I went from about 24000 to 33 thousand a short while ago-
     
  22. Apr 23, 2005
  23. Freudian

    Freudian Dormant account

    Location:
    europe
    They are a great poker room. Excellent support and software. Many tournaments. Only drawback is that ring tables have pretty tight players.
     
  24. Apr 23, 2005
  25. Freudian

    Freudian Dormant account

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    europe
    My advice is that you don't play at those kind of stakes if you still belive in hot seats and such nonsense. You will bust out sooner rather than later. Poker is not like a casino. It is a game of skill.
     
  26. Apr 23, 2005
  27. bpb

    bpb Banned User - repeated violations of rule 1.14 (tr PABnorogue PABnonaccred

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    On the remote chance that you're actually serious ... you are the guy that the high stakes pros LOVE. I hope the money you are playing with is disposable income, because you cannot possibly be a long term winner with that mindset.
     
  28. Apr 23, 2005
  29. Nazareth

    Nazareth Dormant account

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    gambler
    Location:
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    Bpb & freudian, I only play for fakem oney so I can't speak for thje games for real money- I been playing there for about 3 weeks now and I've been doing really well especially when I started doing what I described to do. (And yes, I even play the NL games & do well & have recently started doing even better now that I know how not to get sucked into raising wars which was my downfall when I first started)

    Look- I know you have your doubts- all I'm saying is if you play there- give it a try- it will take some work on your part & you might take awhile to find the right seats. Here's what will happen- You'll see a seat or two hitting, but they are what I call short term hitters- they'll win like 3-5 hands, and then shut off for a long time- perhaps picking up 2-3 more hands in an hour or so-. I've sat there and watched (And, been victim of) players hit a couple of hands, and then get teaser hand after teaser hand after teaser hand for over an hour- all the while certain seats will be winning coinsistantly- Beleive me- I'm playing there for like 6 hours straight- sometimes more every day.

    Look for the seats that hit like 4-5 hands, then miss a couple, then hit a couple more hands-= then switch rooms and get in that same seat- IF you have been on a losing streak, I think you're going to find that if you find the right seat, you're going to staret winning- I've had nights when I started winning and almost could not lose- but only after doing what I described. All of sudden I was the one gewtting the cards that were beating the straights by one card, beating the flushes by the higher card etc..

    Go to any other poker site & watch- you won't find certain seats hitting 4-5 in a row as consistantly as you do in pokerroom and yo7u certainly won't see as many consecutive strights and teaser flops. What you will see is more people folding on the flop instead of getting dragged into betting right up to the river.

    In poker room- watch the guy in white shirt on left, girl in red dress, and girl in blue dress- they seem to be the ones that hit most consistantly- other seats will have their runs, but in the long run, these three seem to be most consistant. You'll have to watch the old lady though- she can really go on tears. The guy in tux does well too & if you can get his seat at the right time- you'll do well. Thing is, you'll have to be vigilent & watch & you';ll have to be quick when switching rooms- the seats will hit for 4-5 hands then stop for a bit, then hit some more- don't stay in the seat if you haven't hit for several hands though- if you do- you're apt to be waiting (and spending) alot of money waiting for the seat to get hot

    I wish- truly wish this wasn't the case- I really like the pokerroom software alot & just want a truly random game & beleive me, I'm not happy about finding htis out- I really wanted to like this site- I mean I stil do, but I have my suspicions at this point & it's based on what I've been seeing and trying myself.

    Freudian wrote "My advice is that you don't play at those kind of stakes if you still belive in hot seats and such nonsense. You will bust out sooner rather than later. Poker is not like a casino. It is a game of skill."

    Normally freudian, that is excellent advice- however- not for pokerroom- I've been doing thius for long enough that I'm noticing a pattern there and have been taking advantage of it- proffitably I might add. You think it's nonsense? Then all I can say is either give it a try, or don't beleive me. I mean my gosh- you mention skill- and you're right- But who in their right mind would hold an 8c-2s after a raise and still end up winning enough times tro suggest that something definately isn't right? You find the right seats in pokerroom and I'm telling you that you can do this on a consistant enough basis that it will convince you something is askew.. Just for giggles- one night I'm going to write down all the crappy hands I play and win on and keep track of seats. I'm also going to keep track of the other's seats and write down how many times in a row they hit over the course of a night.

    Beleive me- I do NOT play this way in other casinos- but at poker room- I've namaged to- in the course of 8 days, turn $1000 into $33,000- Yes, you heard me right- 8 days- in just ten hours- I made nearly 10,000- I'm nbot trying to brag here- I'm really not a very skilled player- I'm simply trying to point out something is amiss at pokerrroom & I think I've discovered what. I really wish it wasn't true, but I have my doubts.
     
  30. Apr 23, 2005
  31. Mugwump

    Mugwump Dormant account

    Location:
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    The play money tables at most sites are little more than a lottery, as most players see little reason to fold.

    If you are really interested in poker, Nazereth, you might want to consider making a small ($25) deposit at pokerstars, and play at their micro limit tables. I think they have tables going down to .05/.10 stakes. Still loose, but you might learn more about the game.
     
  32. Apr 23, 2005
  33. Freudian

    Freudian Dormant account

    Location:
    europe
    You can't compare play money with real money play. Even at micro-limits the play is much better than on play money tables.

    And I don't for a second think Poker Room isn't dealing a fair game. Unlike casinos there is absolutely no incentive to do so. The poker rooms makes money by being fair. What you probably have experienced is short term luck and variance. It happens to everyone who plays poker.

    But if you are convinced you have a full proof way to win money on Poker Room, you probably should desposit some money and make a million.

    Btw, I made $1000 in play money into $90000 on pokerstars in one afternoon while goofing off with my friends. No hot seats or anything was needed. Just the abysmal play on playmoney tables.
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2005
  34. Apr 23, 2005
  35. bpb

    bpb Banned User - repeated violations of rule 1.14 (tr PABnorogue PABnonaccred

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    I would recommend depositing as much money as possible and hit the 10/20 tables with your system. Be sure to come back and let us know how it goes.
     
  36. Apr 23, 2005
  37. Nazareth

    Nazareth Dormant account

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    Bp you can make fun all you like- but I just came back from poker room- played for 2 1/2 hour and started with $7500- I now have $12700-- Eiuther don't beleive me or not- Try it or just sit there wityhout knowing what I'm talking about because of lack of experience, and doubt and make fun- I don't care

    As for you others- yes- I realize the money tables are different & the play is different- that doesn't however account for the seats getting hot- that isn't skill- that's pattern- I've stated I can't speak for the money rooms- just the fake money rooms. I'd start an account just to check it out- but I live in state where it's illegal so I gotta stick to play money-

    Let me show you what my last room was like- I wrote down the winning seats as they hit each round- I sat in the seat of the guy with suspenders- I'll label the people like this

    S=Suspender man
    T=Tux man
    W=white shirt man
    R=Red dress girl
    BD=Blue dress girl
    O=Old lady
    AA=Afro american man
    C=Cigar guy]
    H=Guy with the hat
    J=Woman in jogging suit.

    Now- Her is the run down of the wins per round

    H, H, S, S, W, S, S, BD, S, C, W, W, W, S, S, J, W, BD, S, H, AA, S, R, C, W, J, O, C, J,-

    It stopped hitting for Suspender guy, so I left

    Here's another room when I first went in today- I was the woman in Red Dress cuz there were no open seats

    W, R, C, R, R, S, AA, S, C, R, S, R, R, C, W, R, C, W,

    then she quit hitting so I moved to another room to the white shirt guy which I hit a couple more thne tried another room but didn't do well- I missed the seat- here's how that room played out

    AA, C, H, H, H, J, R, W, S, W,, J, H, H, H, S, S, W, S, AA, H, S, H.

    I was getting clobbered by the guy in hat- He was beating my straights and flushes consistantly

    This goes on all night- & these guys aren't winning with low hands either- they're getting the cards- Even when they get do get crap, they still win?

    Freudian- this isn't short term- I'm seeing this night after night after night- As I said- I've been playing for awhile now & was consistanly losing until I started to suspect something wasn't right- I mean gosh- I went on an 8 hour losing streak one night- Had to go bacvk to refill my account twice- I just could not get the cards to drop right- Since discovering this thoguuhg- I haven't had to refill again because I'm simply not losing like I was before.

    This isn't some 'lucky system' I'm talking about here- there really does seem to be some kind of patterns going on. How many rooms have you guys played in where people are winning as consistantly as what I posted above? Usually it's pretty random & spread out over the table- someone might get lucky and have a few good hands- but my gosh not as consdistantly as that
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2005
  38. Apr 23, 2005
  39. ToucanSam

    ToucanSam Dormant account

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    This forum is great !
    I played play money to warm up before i joined a few places but since you can deposit as little as 10.00-15.00 US in some , play on 10-20c or 25-50c tables and have a lot of fun win or lose.

    I think any software can be tweaked or have a special plugin written so theres always the potential for it and its good to be vigilant but i agree with Mugwump and Deexamn that generally those variables they mentioned are whats at play.


    man im slow that post wasnt the when i started mine :)
     
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