PokerStars Casino - seriously reduced RTP on some slots

bgallick

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Sep 21, 2016
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UK
Just notice, after losing a consderable sum of money, that Gonzo's Quest Megaways RTP is 90% instead of the original 96%. WTF

Beware.

Impossible to get any kind of win.
 

bgallick

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UK
Support refused to comment and ended the chat.

They need watching - when do they make these changes and why are we not informed?
 

sapit222

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I took a quick look and it seems that all of the slots from Red Tiger has lowered RTP.
Gonzo's Quest Megaways is 92.71% for me.
 

Mouse75

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Southport
And another one hits the NERF button. Red tiger games are truly shocking on some big name casinos thats for sure
 

bamberfishcake

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I just checked and Gonzo MW at 92.71% for PokerStars. Have to be bonkers, new or naive to play that version.

A quick look at some other sites from Flutter showed:

Betfair - 94.66% (Betunfair)

PaddyPower - 94.66% (PussyPower)

And the ultimate in ripping off UK customers would be

SkyVegas - 92.76% with 2% Jackpot contribution (SkyBasildon)

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really not worth checking the rest.

Just stay away from anything to do with Flutter, especially UK.
 

CasinoNinja

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Thats been like this for ages, I 100% believe Red Tiger is pushing casinos to choose the lower RTP version with incentives. Hells Kitchen slot is also running on lower RTP.

But their Play and Go slots are running on max :)
 

bgallick

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Sep 21, 2016
Location
UK
Just notice, after losing a consderable sum of money, that Gonzo's Quest Megaways RTP is 90% instead of the original 96%. WTF

Beware.

Impossible to get any kind of win.
For some reason the RTP has now changes to 92% - I'm totally sure I seen 90%.

Wish I'd taken a screen-shot because I definately think there up to something.

We need to lobby the UKGC - RTP should be shown when games loads. This is needed because this change is new and needs to be addressed. It is borderline fraud. You shouldn't need to check every time you play a game.
 

Mouse75

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Nov 16, 2018
Location
Southport
Hills run Red tiger at those low RTP's with a jackpot % as well. Sure Paddy power do too.

I like red tiger games - but it hard finding somewhere you can play them - and they are SHOCKING if the daily jackpots are part of the profile
 

TheAddict

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Jan 9, 2013
Location
Kent
Paddy certainly do, since betfair do.
Play me some poker at betfair but always laugh at the freespins being thrown out on a choice of games which are usually lowered rtp red tiger games, often with jackpot contributions, or some other absolute shitter you've never heard of with the lower rtp setting coincidently also activated. Or games that require some sort of building up of extra features in order to realize the already pathetically lowered chosen rtp.
Its wager free - the entirety of 4 -18p you'll almost ceartinly get in return from 5 spins. But yes, i do love me a good "spin until you win on this rtp lowered , hole filled, sack of diarrhoea of a slot we've picked out for you today" promo. And to absolutely make sure you almost certainly do win something, you can even have 5 sets of 5 spins ensuring you'll likely hit 0.2 of the stake value at least once. Life can be boring without challenges. Thankfully, betfair realize this. ;)
 

09237653

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Red tiger games have always been 92% at pokerstars - as they are pretty much everywhere, the only place I know of that uses the 96% models is 21casino.
 

Mouse75

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Nov 16, 2018
Location
Southport
Red tiger games have always been 92% at pokerstars - as they are pretty much everywhere, the only place I know of that uses the 96% models is 21casino.
Paddy Power - for the games which arent on the daily Jackpot junk... do run the higher versions - usually close to 95%
 

Video_Poker_Pro

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Dec 3, 2020
Location
Sweden
I just checked and Gonzo MW at 92.71% for PokerStars. Have to be bonkers, new or naive to play that version.

A quick look at some other sites from Flutter showed:

Betfair - 94.66% (Betunfair)

PaddyPower - 94.66% (PussyPower)

And the ultimate in ripping off UK customers would be

SkyVegas - 92.76% with 2% Jackpot contribution (SkyBasildon)

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really not worth checking the rest.

Just stay away from anything to do with Flutter, especially UK.
92 version is what vieoslors runs it at
 
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