Pokerstars, Absolutepoker, Ub and Fulltilt Seized By Doj

dominique

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This only happened like half an hour ago, you'll be kicked off soon... get your money out.

Domains take time to propagate around the world, use your chance to withdraw while you still can.
 

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The United States also filed a civil money laundering and in rem forfeiture complaint (the "Civil Complaint") against the Poker Companies, their assets, and the assets of several payment processors for the Poker Companies.

Is this a 'Heads Up' and something to be concerned about for those using payment processors? Does 'Payment Processors' refer to the likes of MB, Netteller...et al ?

Nate

Edited to Add: As alleged in the Indictment, to accomplish their fraud, the Poker Companies worked with an array of highly compensated "payment processors" – including defendants RYAN LANG, IRA RUBIN, BRADLEY FRANZEN, and CHAD ELIE – who obtained accounts at U. S. banks for the Poker Companies.
 
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...in a 51-page indictment filed in federal court in Manhattan, federal prosecutors allege that PokerStars, Fullt Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker, “used fraudulent methods to avoid restrictions and to receive billions of dollars from United States residents who gambled.” The indictment largely focuses on financial transactions, claiming the online poker companies violated a 2006 law (UGIEA) that Congress passed to cut off the flow of cash to online gambling companies, saying the firms “deceived or directed others to deceive United States banks and financial institutions into processing billions of dollars in payments.”
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Just a note here, the title of this thread is a little misleading.

They (the poker rooms) have not been seized, they are outside US Justice Dept. Control. (correction the DOJ is trying to seize the domain names)
However... This may have something to to do with the disappearance of E-check.
 

Tengil

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Wonder how it will effect non US accounts? LOL at BWIN.PARTY DIGITAL E up 11% today.

Edit: seems to work normal for non US players and cashouts are apparently working (at least MB and Neteller).
 
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jstrike

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Sure enough, pokerstars in the US now resolves to 50.17.223.71 ...a page with DOJ seals and some heavy-sounding warnings on it.

The Feds seized the domain name. Oddly, or not, if you access pokerstars' real IP address, 77.87.179.116, from a server in the states, it redirects to the DOJ. Possibly because PS' front page itself rewrites the header from the numerical IP address to 'pokerstars.com'. I wonder if this has any effect at all on using the download client from the US. Maybe not?
 

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Just a note here, the title of this thread is a little misleading.

They (the poker rooms) have not been seized, they are outside US Justice Dept. Control.

However... This may have something to to do with the disappearance of E-check.

I agree should have titled it a little better. But The DOJ has taken control of the domain names.
 

Nate

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Is the Domain take over US specific? I am able to access the Websites.

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lots0

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Looks like the DOJ made a huge shit sandwich and their gonna make everybody take a great big bite... :(
 

Simmo!

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Just another back-hander to clear the US market so the land-based corporations can get a clear run, surely? And another sign that regulation is coming IMO.
 

dominique

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Well, they just got lucky cause the "boy wonder" opened up and told all he knew.

Poker Stars just partnered with Wynn Vegas, I am sure Wynn is none to happy about this.
 

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I'm just soooooooooooo happy that i don't live in the US.
Their government just seem to f**k up every bit of "freedom" that is left.
"Land of the free"... right...

/rant
 

DiamondGeezer

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It wouldn't surprise me if there was huge fallout for casinos in the US market. If all the processors get seized no one is going to get any money.

If you are a US player with money in casinos I suggest you think about getting it out asap.
 

phantom27

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i agree with you, geezer. online wallets are now re-evaluating... our money isn't safe there any more.

i think i'll go to an indian casino nearby... for now.
 

tesla

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It wouldn't surprise me if there was huge fallout for casinos in the US market. If all the processors get seized no one is going to get any money.

If you are a US player with money in casinos I suggest you think about getting it out asap.

yes I would agree. I'm sure the feds are looking at casinos too and who knows which ones they will go after.


Although I am glad they busted Absolute Poker seeing they are quite roguish due to their super user cheating scandal.
 

DiamondGeezer

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I reckon it's safe but the problem is it could take months to get your money if all the processors get frozen. It's looking a bit like the Neteller seizure in 2006. Everyone got paid but it took months.
 

pokeraddict

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It is interesting to note that Scott Tom, the accused mastermind cheater at AP, is one of the ones indicted. I'm very interested where that goes. Also US players can no longer play on PokerStars. As of now Full Tilt and AP/UB are still accepting US players.
 

w8n4win

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Sure enough, pokerstars in the US now resolves to 50.17.223.71 ...a page with DOJ seals and some heavy-sounding warnings on it.

The Feds seized the domain name. Oddly, or not, if you access pokerstars' real IP address, 77.87.179.116, from a server in the states, it redirects to the DOJ. Possibly because PS' front page itself rewrites the header from the numerical IP address to 'pokerstars.com'. I wonder if this has any effect at all on using the download client from the US. Maybe not?

I logged in to PS, was the normal site. But, when I tried to cash out, a page popped up for a spit second and then nothing.........dang and dog!
 
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