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Poker site cheating plot a high-stakes whodunit

Discussion in 'Casinomeister's Poker Room' started by cynthial, Sep 18, 2008.

    Sep 18, 2008
  1. cynthial

    cynthial Boo

    updated 7:09 a.m. MT, Thurs., Sept. 18, 2008

    Allegations that cheaters manipulated the software powering a leading Internet poker site so they could see their opponents' hole cards have triggered a $75 million claim against a Canadian company, msnbc.com has learned.

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    Hope I am not double posting this. :) Oops I did, one should be gone shortly. HELP SIMMO!
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  2. Sep 18, 2008
  3. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    oops, nevermind...I see this is solely against UB and not AP :)

    Maybe this'll be the end of them, finally?
  4. Sep 19, 2008
  5. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming

    I do nothing productive
    Hell on Earth
    About damn time...
  6. Sep 19, 2008
  7. Cat

    Cat Dormant account

    Cheaters :what:
  8. Sep 19, 2008
  9. Mousey

    Mousey Ueber Meister Mouse CAG

    Pencil Pusher
    I read this thing, not just once, but twice... evidently, I'm mentally challenged. Someone please tell me exactly who is suing whom?
  10. Sep 19, 2008
  11. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    :) here you go...

    ps: They're suing the company that made the software... So I have no idea if they're going to give back money to the players that were affected or not.

  12. Sep 19, 2008
  13. pokeraddict

    pokeraddict Webmaster

    Pro Poker Player
    Las Vegas
    It reads like they are suing themselves doesn't it? I think it seems that way due to the owner structure but it isn't clear to me either.
  14. Sep 20, 2008
  15. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    The way I interpret this report is that Blast Off has an ownership interest in Tokwiro, and therefore has the right to launch a claim against Excapsa, which was the Canadian firm that provided the software for Absolute and UltimateBet and who's involvement was presumably bought by the ownership prior to that of Tokwiro.

    Nat Arem linked the sleepless account in the scandal to a home in Las Vegas owned by Russ Hamilton, who was allegedly part of the ownership structure which (again presumably) sold to Tokwiro. Or is he still involved in the Tokwiro structure somewhere, even if only as an investor?

    Hamilton has not publicly confirmed or denied his involvement on the advice of his lawyers and canceled a radio appearance on Poker Road recently.

    And where does Scott Tom fit into this picture?

    These are the sort of issues causing so much concern and interest - the lack of disclosure on exactly who owned what and sold to whom and for how much...and when.

    Where did Chief Norton get the funding to purchase these two probably expensive properties (although their fortunes are apparently declining according to some reports, which is hardly surprising given the bad taste this whole issue has left) and who is involved with him?
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