Poker card counting team sigh...

NewOrleans

Banned User
I thought about it...If five people played at betraiser.com where there is no rake they could all get sign up bonuses plus reference bonuses and also if a team of 5 people played 5 card draw on a 6 player table they could count 25 cards out of the whole deck :( they could know if they can make a flush and bust the other player etc,now if there is ever 8 player tables for 5 card draw I will be damned.You could calculate your "true" odds because if you hold a pair for example and one of your team mates has a same pair then none of you can draw 3 cards and get 3 of a kind which would lower your hand's value etc...
I don't know if you see where I'm going with this but one has to wonder,a program could easily calculate this and be right on the money most of the time.Imagine an 8 player 5 card draw table and you have 7 bots or team members,that means you can count 35 cards lol
 

GrandMaster

Ueber Meister
CAG
I thought about it...If five people played at betraiser.com where there is no rake they could all get sign up bonuses plus reference bonuses and also if a team of 5 people played 5 card draw on a 6 player table they could count 25 cards out of the whole deck :( they could know if they can make a flush and bust the other player etc,now if there is ever 8 player tables for 5 card draw I will be damned.You could calculate your "true" odds because if you hold a pair for example and one of your team mates has a same pair then none of you can draw 3 cards and get 3 of a kind which would lower your hand's value etc...
I don't know if you see where I'm going with this but one has to wonder,a program could easily calculate this and be right on the money most of the time.Imagine an 8 player 5 card draw table and you have 7 bots or team members,that means you can count 35 cards lol
It is not called card counting, it is called cheating (collusion).
 

love2winalot

Dormant account
Hiya: YES it is cheating. And anyone who thinks it does not happen all the time is Blind. Hell, just loggin in with a real life friend, and being at the same table is temptation to share your hand info with your friend.

Go to any poker site, and if you click on the other players profiles, and see a few, at the same table, from the same place, i would go to another table.
 

vinylweatherman

You type well loads
CAG
MM
Poker rooms are very quick to crack down on the merest HINT of this kind of thing. Even if players lie on their profiles, and those that are the "fish", i.e. expected to "chip dump" to one of the "honest" players in the team, poker rooms check EVERYONE, whereas casinos tend to audit accounts at time of withdrawal.
Many poker rooms use auditing software that looks over past hands to see if there is evidence of colluding, spotted by patterns of play that indicate some knowledge of cards in other player's "pocket" for example.
All of these techniques have been designed, used, and busted long ago, and anyone thinking of trying these now has rather "missed the boat".

Don't expect any help or sympathy if you & your team get busted (to anyone thinking this might still be viable).
 

NewOrleans

Banned User
For the record I don't do this,I was just thinking what if! And it is a good thing to notice things because I might be "fished"
 

vinylweatherman

You type well loads
CAG
MM
For the record I don't do this,I was just thinking what if! And it is a good thing to notice things because I might be "fished"
It's no "what if", it happens, and you would be wise to look for the signs that you are "being fished". Unfortunately, if you are "being fished", the fact you are on the same table MIGHT mean you get mistaken for one of the team's "chip dumpers", since as well as catching "fish", this kind of cheat is also used to shift money from "dirty" accounts to "clean" ones for withdrawal.
 
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