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Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Da_Gambla, Apr 28, 2007.

    Apr 28, 2007
  1. Da_Gambla

    Da_Gambla Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Code Monkey
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Disclaimer: this is for informational purposes only, and its intent is only to help community members or guests to make informed decisions about where to get accurate information regarding casinos and the US situation. My views are not necessarily endorsed by Casinomeister, and are posted by me as an individual. These are my opinions, and although backed by facts (as seen below), you should use your own due diligence as always. /disclaimer

    There is a casino affiliate who is using the Forums here at CM to do damage control for his affiliated casinos that have many pages of complaints listed here. In quite a few posts now, he tries to get CM members to visit his website and Forums, and in my opinion, his only goal is to build his community on the back of Casinomeister's community and work. While it is honorable to try and build a community, one should do it using integrity. What Allamericans is doing is beneath dignity. He started off slowly, making a few comments here and there with no mention of his website. He then started getting EXTREMELY aggressive at posting favorable things about casinos you see SPAM'd all over his website, and suggesting people start populating/visiting his forums. Let me show you a few things about his forum (as of today).

    View attachment 5987

    For those of you (Guests) who might not see this image, it is an image of the Forum Stats from Allamericans.com. It shows the following quite shocking statistics:

    Top Posters:
    Geoff Leonnards - 153
    Jason - 3
    smverduzco - 1


    that's it...

    Total registered users: 7

    So out of 7 users, 3 have ever posted. Only 4 posts out of the ENTIRE forum were not made by Geoff Leonnards (the site admin). The 3 posts made by Jason are SO OBVIOUS shill posts where Geoff and Jason just pat each other on the backs about Golden Casino ad nauseum... so realistically, there is only ONE post from an outside source, and that person complained that Hype Casino should post better information about their cash back program.

    These forums have been up 2 or 3 months, and the site domain was first registered in Nov of last year (2006). In all of that time, there is only one real post, the rest are SPAM posts on a forum (how stoopid can one possibly be...?? :what: ).

    Topics Started: 48
    Top Topic Starter: Geoff Leonnards - 48


    You're surprised I bet! :lolup:

    Most Time Online:

    Geoff Leonnards - 14hr 30min
    Jason - 25 min
    msbblu - 6 min
    spatterson32 - 6 min
    smverduzco - 6 min
    everyone else - 0 min


    Bet that surprised you too! :lolup:

    Do you notice any posts from casino reps or any casino reps even signed up? No, you don't.

    From Geoff's bio here at Casinomeister:
    After viewing his website, you will understand how humorous this bio is! More accurately, the information you will receive is only POSITIVE things about his affiliated casinos that he urges you to sign up for. Every time a poor US player clicks through one of his links and makes a deposit, Geoff gets paid. His bio suggests he is here for the US player... to guide them... to get them on the right track. But in my opinion, he is not here for that reason. He is here solely to take advantage of the desperate time US players live in right now, and make a fast buck in the process. He is in Europe, and has no real credibility about anything US. He doesn't give a rat's arse one way or another, and think about it... if the US law was repealed, what valid reason would remain for his site's existence? None. So therefore, although he says 'boo hoo' for US players and he has this psuedo-sympathy complex for us, in my opinion, he cheers for the legislation YOU and I live under. It might drive us to his site seeking satisfaction.

    I urge you, the US player, to beware of wolves in sheep's clothing. This is no different than the dispicable people who take advantage of natural disasters like hurricanes and earthquakes. There are many people who honorably dive in and help the less fortunate. There are others, like Geoff Leonnards, who are there to thin your wallet while fattening his own. There are many good sites that have excellent information and options for US players. Right here at Casinomeister, there is a wealth of information too. It's obvious to everyone except Geoff Leonnards that his site is unnecessary, and that his site is just a huge vomit of banners for his affiliates.

    I wonder what his affiliates would think if they knew how much ADDITIONAL damage he is doing to their reputation by running such a shill site, and worse yet, posting cloaked SPAM at valid player advocate sites like Casinomeister? :what:

    That's all for now, and I appreciate your time reading this...

    Sincerely,
    - Keith
     
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  2. Apr 28, 2007
  3. liquidsoap

    liquidsoap Dormant account

    Occupation:
    my self
    Location:
    home
    I think it was spam, but I think it was not intentional.
    I think he was just trying to help out.
    Only thing I am wondering is why create an all USA site??? If you are not in the USA??
     
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  4. Apr 28, 2007
  5. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    How, by supporting sites that either slow pay or don't pay at all?


    To further screw USA players even more than we are now?
     
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  6. Apr 28, 2007
  7. mikepipe

    mikepipe Dormant account

    Occupation:
    owner
    Location:
    still progressing
    Done a very good job, Da_gambla. Next time, i see one of these spammy posts, i will thank him with -17. That will help to build the reputation, he deserves:rolleyes:
     
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  8. Apr 28, 2007
  9. catrina m

    catrina m Senior Member PABaccred

    Occupation:
    service
    Location:
    US of A
    I wish I could click my mouse and stop thier whole crooked operation.

    By clicking yours Da_Gambla you have started the process.

    This is the only place to visit and read if you want to risk your money.

    Thank You very much Bryan and forum members, You are invaluable to internet gambling, large or small rollers.
     
    1 person likes this.
  10. Apr 28, 2007
  11. Zoozie

    Zoozie Ueber Meister CAG PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Software Developer
    Location:
    Denmark
    When you give someone negative approval it only count for RP/2, while a positive counts for the full RP amount.

    Btw, why are CM 'capped' at only 15 reputation points?

    Zoozie
     
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  12. Apr 28, 2007
  13. mikepipe

    mikepipe Dormant account

    Occupation:
    owner
    Location:
    still progressing
    oh. Didnt know that. ok- , so -8.5 :eek2:

    Bryan and Simmo! are limited to 15 - maybe because the some even stronger methods to make clear, when some one is blundering around.
    (f.e. banning him for a few days...)
     
  14. Apr 28, 2007
  15. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

    Occupation:
    Tradesman
    Location:
    USA
    I never looked at points before this, when I did I gave a couple of boosts to dirtydealing. (caught up in the fray)

    It's only fair I get knocked off my too high points for how long I've been here and the things I've said :) Right, wrong, or just plane crazy. But that's not what it's about is it?

    Looking at my user control panel, I see one reputation given lately that isn't attributable to a 'thanks'. Could be a positive, could be a negative; the person wasn't kind enough, or able to make a comment to me so I don't know.

    To AllAmericans, Bryan said, 'Welcome to the Forum' and told him it was baptism by fire. If he is sincere and has thick enough skin we might learn something from him and he may, after all, have insights that could be helpful for all. It's on him. First time I saw him post I warned people not to give personal info to unknown 'player advocates'.

    And again to da_gambla, good lookin out. It's on geoff now to make his stand as an advocate or just join the forum as an equal, or piss off.

    Points are points, and I don't give thanks or rep power enough to the people I meet here who have my utmost respect. i even gode some of you sometimes:D
     
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  16. Apr 28, 2007
  17. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    If it's got a green square icon to the left of it, it's positive :thumbsup:
     
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