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Please explain Flush, Reverse and Withdrawal

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by LeonardV, Jun 22, 2014.

    Jun 22, 2014
  1. LeonardV

    LeonardV Dormant account

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    software designer
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Being new to online casino jargon I am a little confused. I have looked up existing forum explanations for these words but still confused! I don't quite understand why these words are used anyway because I can't see how any financial account shouldn't use conventional terms analogous with ordinary banking. For example, if I deposit £100 into my bank account then later make a payment to another account, or move the cash somewhere else, this is simply a withdrawal, and doesn't need to be called "flushing".

    If I deposit say £500 into a casino account, then play and win say £500 I have a total of £1000 in the account. I then request that £500 is paid out of my casino account into my known bank account. That seems perfectly free of complication. I then have £500 left to play with if I so choose. I assume that "reverse" means you change your mind and do not want the £500 placed in your bank account after all, but wish to draw upon it to play up to that limit. So why are these somewhat jargon words used? They seem to provide more confusion than clarity. Any clear explanations would be most gratefully received.
     
  2. Jun 22, 2014
  3. chayton

    chayton aka LooHoo CAG PABnonaccred webmeister

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    I'm playing at a casino and make a withdrawal of $500. IF the casino has a withdrawal pending period of let's say 24 hours, the withdrawal doesn't get sent to processing until that 24 hours is up. During that 24 hours I can still go into the casino banking page and reverse the withdrawal back to my casino account and play it.

    If the casino offers flushing (a lot of them don't) but if they do, I can ask to have the $500 withdrawal flushed, so then it's removed from where I can reverse it. Of course, until the money is sent to be processed, I can still ask support to reverse it back so I can play more, but it's not as simple as just clicking a button.

    Depending on the casino, the withdrawal pending period could be 24 hours, 48 hours, 72 hours etc, and sometimes that doesn't include weekends. So if the casino offers flushing, it keeps you from easily reversing and possibly losing your money back during that time, plus it may help you get your withdrawal a bit faster.

    Some casinos don't have any withdrawal pending period so they don't offer flushing. As soon as you make the withdrawal, it's sent to be processed and you're not able to reverse it unless you contact support within minutes.

    Does that make sense?
     
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  4. Jun 22, 2014
  5. LeonardV

    LeonardV Dormant account

    Occupation:
    software designer
    Location:
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    Yes it does. Thank you for that very clear explanation. So, reverse means stopping the process of pending withdrawals so you can play with the balance that existed before you requested withdrawal, and flush means a pending withdrawal cannot be reversed (unless you contact the casino and change the decision). OK got it and thanks!
     
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  6. Jun 22, 2014
  7. chayton

    chayton aka LooHoo CAG PABnonaccred webmeister

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    :thumbsup: You got it.

    Flushing withdrawals used to be a lot more common, but nowadays it's pretty rare. I think the only standalone Microgaming casinos that still flush are the Vegas Partner Lounge group and 32Red Plc casinos. I don't think any RTG casinos do, and probably most of the NetEnts are so fast they don't need to. Maybe in a couple of years nobody will do it anymore and everyone will have forgotten what the term even meant. :)
     
  8. Jun 22, 2014
  9. nikantw

    nikantw Ueber Meister MM PABaccred

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    You can reverse any amount, and leave the rest on the pending process.

    For example, I have 1200 and I make a withdrawal of 1000. The 1000 go to a 48h pending period. I play and lose the remaining 200. Then I reverse 200 and leave 800 pending. I lose that 200 and reverse 300 more. Now I have only 500 left for withdrawal. After I lose that 300 too, I decide to control myself, and flush the 500. So the 500 will no longer be on pending status and will be processed ASAP.

    (Losing your balance is not mandatory, before you reverse or flush. This is just what usually happens if you continue playing after a big win! And I wanted my example to be realistic. :))
     
  10. Jun 22, 2014
  11. nikantw

    nikantw Ueber Meister MM PABaccred

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    An analogy that might help, is going to a land based casino with your wife, Anna.

    Before you go, you agree to a plan. Only you will gamble. If you win, at some point you will give most of the chips to Anna for safe keeping (withdrawal request). Anna will stay by your side for another hour (pending time), just in case you need some more chips to play (reverse option). After that hour passes, she will go to cashier, cash the chips, and go home (processing withdrawal). If you wish, you can send Anna to the cashier sooner than that (flushing).
     

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