Rogued Playtech Casinos with predatory progessive terms

[KasinoKing]

I always wonder how much these big casinos care about being rogued?? Isn't their playerbase big enough that they can say "Screw Casinomeister" we don't care? I don't know...

Well for most of them, it's pretty obvious that they don't give a damn about their players or affiliate marketing partners, so why should they give a flip what one or two websites say about them?
These guys really do have their heads in the sand...

KK

 

[Casinomeister]

I always wonder how much these big casinos care about being rogued?? Isn't their playerbase big enough that they can say "Screw Casinomeister" we don't care? I don't know...

Actually, a large part of this is due to player apathy. A huge mount of players are aware of this term either by reading it, or reading this thread. But they don't care.

If the players would take issue with this term and stop playing, yes - the casino would take notice.

So it's not only the casino that has its head in the sand...

 

[birthdaysuit]

I'm investing my time, money, and energy into playing these online casinos. Of course I take the rogue casino list carefully. I want to avoid mistakes before I make them. Casinomeister is your (and my) opportunity to learn from others' experiences. Who would like at a rogue list of casinos and think "I don't care, I'm sure they'll treat me just fine. Troubles with cashing out and payment issues happen to other people, but not me!" ??

 

[zanzibar]

Actually, a large part of this is due to player apathy. A huge mount of players are aware of this term either by reading it, or reading this thread. But they don't care.

I don't agree with this. I would say that a huge amount (probably the vast majority) of players don't bother reading the T&Cs and the casinos know this. That is why they bury these clauses half way down in a wall of text. You could call that apathy for not being bothered to read the T&Cs, but not because people do read them and know about it and don't care. Further to that unfortunately a vast majority of players have never heard of Casinomeister or the small handful of other sites that actually tell people these clauses exist, because they just picked a casino based on an ad that they saw on TV or online.

Then the vast majority of that vast majority never end up winning a progressive jackpot of an amount that is significantly affected by these payout clauses, so they never find out about them. It would not be surprising to find that any winners that complain get pressured by the casino holding the money to keep quiet. The casino is in the powerful position of being able to hold the funds as ransom. We know that happened in the Joyland case and they ended up stealing half the money from the player. So it's a problem that doesn't get much attention for various reasons including those.

 

[trickster]

Glad my casinos are not in the lists....this is a diabolical clause but am surprised that Bwin is in this list.. I thought it was a big casino and didn't do this kind of things. Wasn't it sponsoring Real and Milan sometime back?

 

[KasinoKing]

Glad my casinos are not in the lists....this is a diabolical clause but am surprised that Bwin is in this list.. I thought it was a big casino and didn't do this kind of things. Wasn't it sponsoring Real and Milan sometime back?

Yes - using money they stole from player's progressive wins...

KK

 

[theslotsking]

Theres something I dont understand.

Playtech casino's from experience dont have a deposit limit so how do they justify putting a withdrawl limit.. particularly when its just 10k a month. Its obviously to protect cashflow and if thats the case they shouldnt be in business.. period.

 

[lilianna]

I would like to win 10K per month ))) but not the limits not so interesting for me ) hope soon I'll win more )

 

[mrjeanluc1979]

Playtech : Problem

I play for a few years on Playtch casinos, I have always had problems: slot games frozen, incorect payout, slow payment...Now I stick to Microgaming casinos. No more headaches !

 

[dunover]

Just lately, I was revisiting a player issue which has really bothered me. In case you have forgotten (or were unaware) this was the problem with Sylvia P. who had won over $4.1 million dollars from a progressive slot at Joyland casino back in 2008. The casino had withdrawal terms of $9k per month and had applied this to her progressive win. That would have taken 39 years to pay out.

So the casino cut a deal with her using non-casino email addresses (thus erasing any evidence of dodginess), and she received about half. That thread is here:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/stipulations-on-playtech-progressive-win.31033/

Playtech upheld the casino's decision stating that "it was in the terms and conditions, which she agreed to..." I was also told by the COO of William Hill back then (they had purchased Joyland and the casinos that went with it) that the $9k a month withdrawal limitations applied to progressive wins was unacceptable, and that the terms would be removed.

Well guess what folks? The term is back. And not only is it back at Joyland casino, but it is being used on +40 Playtech casinos - which are now listed here:
https://www.casinomeister.com/rogue-casinos/

Most of the casinos listed have $9k - $15k a month withdrawal limitations and apply this to progressive wins as well. These are officially Not Recommended at Casinomeister. Would you recommend these casinos to anyone? I sure won't.

And just a note - most Top Game casinos do the same.

Sorry for the necromancy here, but I was looking to check the Playtech casinos with dishonest progressive retentions and Bryans link with this VITAL information has redirected with the forum revision to simply the Rogue list which doesn't have these Playtechs mentioned. As this could be important to some, can we have it accessible again?

If I have missed it when searching and it's easily found, then I'm a bellend and apologize!

P.S. Sod's law, found it 10 seconds after this post....

https://www.casinomeister.com/gambling-news/playtech-progressive-jackpots-scandal/

Why aren't these added to the rogue list, as people may miss them otherwise?

Yeah, I know there's a hell of a lot of them, but maybe a little link in the rogue page easily spotted?

 

[Casinomeister]

Why aren't these added to the rogue list, as people may miss them otherwise?

Yeah, I know there's a hell of a lot of them, but maybe a little link in the rogue page easily spotted?

On the to do list. As I mentioned in this week's video (in post production - upload scheduled for sometime tomorrow), I need to create a separate review page for each rogue entity.

So I am a busy bee as can be.

Some of these casinos have removed this clause by the way, so they are good to go. But yeah, they should be noted.

 

[MazzarielloLuig]

mrjeanluc1979: -- I play for a few years on Playtch casinos, I have always had problems: slot games frozen, incorect payout, slow payment...Now I stick to Microgaming casinos. No more headaches ! :thumbsup


Me too...I saw a lot of problems in this nice!

 

[Rairy]

I play for a few years on Playtch casinos, I have always had problems: slot games frozen, incorect payout, slow payment...Now I stick to Microgaming casinos. No more headaches !

I have never had problems with Playtech, but I definitely prefer Microgaming casinos.

 

[Casinomeister]

Just a heads up that this list of rogue casinos has been moved to here: Playtech Progressive Jackpots Scandal

I removed a number of casinos that no longer have this unethical predatory term. But it's still there in 20 of them. Some even licensed in the UK. What a pathetic joke.

 

[Radiowave]

The BIG problem with Playtech is that the payouts are not done via an annuity, but can stop at any time if a casino goes bust. Playtech however, have handed over the whole amount to the casino, so apart from the publicity, operators get a substantial interest free loan over a number of years, if not decades