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Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Lurkio, Feb 12, 2005.

    Feb 12, 2005
  1. Lurkio

    Lurkio Webmaster

    Location:
    Sydney
    OK..there are players here and affiliates here..and there are also affiliates ( webmasters) that play.

    How many sign up under their own referrer codes ( or those of colleagues) and claim back 35% of their losses ?

    If you are either , or do not do that, what is your opinion of that practice otherwise ?

    Lets face it..it would be easy .


    ( edited for spelling )
     
  2. Feb 13, 2005
  3. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

    Occupation:
    webmistress
    Location:
    The Boonies
    That would be fun, but you are not allowed to sign up under your own code.

    It is considered fraud, and I think if anyone did it, they would not last long as an affiliate.
     
  4. Feb 13, 2005
  5. slotchik

    slotchik Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Marketing
    Location:
    USA
    I'm sure people get away with it. It's NOT fraud though. If you're losing the money, the casino is making the money.
     
  6. Feb 13, 2005
  7. Lurkio

    Lurkio Webmaster

    Location:
    Sydney

    It would be easy.. thats why I wrote..( or those of colleagues)
     
  8. Feb 13, 2005
  9. sirius

    sirius Senior Member

    Location:
    UK
    Referback used to allow it but they later changed their terms.
     
  10. Feb 13, 2005
  11. eek

    eek Dormant account

    Or a referral ring.

    A signs up with B who signs up with C etc as a group, like the MIT blackjack group in vegas in the 90's.

    On something like VP you have 0.5% HA against 25-30% recoup on losses.

    With a professional setup you could bust every casino that plays a fair game.
    It works out at about 103-104% for the players/referrers on a 99.5% game and 30% referral.
     
  12. Feb 13, 2005
  13. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Self Refferal

    I have asked this as I had thought of this. Casinoprofitshare (Casino Action) actually allow affiliates to sign up and play through their own codes. Pity they didn't tell me before I played the casinos as it cannot be done retrospectively. They also require that your affiliate codes generate custom other than your own though, as they will consider banning your affiliate account if the concession is used solely to recoup commisson from your own losses. Due to the 'no negative carry' rules is is actually possible to perpetrate a 'fraud' over a number of months that will give a net edge over the casino if you are running ALL the accounts that have signed up. It is this that probably causes most schemes to disallow self referal. Of course two friends can achieve the same net result and the casino would be none the wiser if they made sure they did not give similar details, like living in the same street, playing the same casinos, and in the same style.
     
  14. Feb 13, 2005
  15. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

    Occupation:
    webmistress
    Location:
    The Boonies
    I think Wager Junction allows it - Geisha and all.

    Don't take my word for it though - these type policies change.
     
  16. Feb 13, 2005
  17. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    I prefer to join a casino via an affiliate account from a webmaster that I know, and then apply the "Biermeister" system. Please refer to the "Winner Screenshots" thread for details :D
     
  18. Feb 14, 2005
  19. Lurkio

    Lurkio Webmaster

    Location:
    Sydney
    So the reverse could apply ?.. you could share your winnings with a webmaster as a quid pro quo for laying off your losses ?!!

    I should shut up.I smell a business developing here. :eek:

    Actually , that could make sense as the odd BIG winner can zero out a months earnings for an affiliate...so it could help ease the pain of someone actually winning..I know a guy who was -15k last month on one program...but there were some chargebacks as well as losses.
     
  20. Feb 14, 2005
  21. peralis

    peralis Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Germany
    Stay away from my site :icon_evil
     
  22. Feb 14, 2005
  23. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

    Occupation:
    webmistress
    Location:
    The Boonies
  24. Feb 14, 2005
  25. casinogeld

    casinogeld Webmaster

    Location:
    denmark
    I think its okay to play as an affiliate with
    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Barcley
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  26. Feb 15, 2005
  27. largeeyes

    largeeyes Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    North America
    AKA, screw the affiliate code. Never show him an affiliate link......
     

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