Question Playboy Slot Running wild feature question

NohchiPlayer

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Hello guys, i have a quick question about the Sofia 15 freespins with running wilds on Playbot slot.

Question: How often you get a minimum 3-4 full wild reels with this feature? Does it happend often? And what slot do you prefer, Playboy or Immortal Romance? Immortal romance does not pay anything to me last time...
Got 3 wild desire in 1 hour with 1.20 bet and 2 times 0.90... Result? of course only 1 wild reel.

Thanks for help :)
 

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sorry for the let down

basicly to get even 3 wild reels you looking at about 15 to 50 of the features the variance of pay is very high sometimes free spins hit at 100 or less spins sometimes you wont see them for 500 spins immortal romance is better as a wild desire can pay big on occasion a rare one and the normal game pays are well set out ive noticed wild desire about 500ish spins it comes up on avge have a look in winner screenshots at what you can get but be aware you could spend $500 on 60 cent spins and not make over $25 in a feature in either game my best idea for you play in free mode and log how often the spins come up and what the pay over 1000 features this will give you a good idea of the loose avge
 

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immortal romance is better as a wild desire can pay big on occasion a rare one and the normal game pays are well set out...

I have had far more success on Playboy than IM's Wild Desire. I usually pick Running Wilds when I have a good balance and can afford a bad feature but I'd say you get a good amount of wild reels every 10-15 features. Most times you get around 10x your bet. It makes the game very high variance - which is why if my balance is lower I generally go for the other features.
 

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As others have said, the Playboy running wilds feature is a very high variance one. There's a good chance that a different set of reels are used compared to the base game, so the ~15 running wilds may not be as impressive as you'd think if the reel strip is like 100 symbols long.

Also, in my experience the wild desire feature will just fizzle out and pay next to nothing the vast majority of the time, so it's pretty much not worth getting excited about until you see 3+ reels turn wild. Though it has the possibility of paying out 1000x+, those seem very rare.
 

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As others have said, the Playboy running wilds feature is a very high variance one. There's a good chance that a different set of reels are used compared to the base game, so the ~15 running wilds may not be as impressive as you'd think if the reel strip is like 100 symbols long.

Also, in my experience the wild desire feature will just fizzle out and pay next to nothing the vast majority of the time, so it's pretty much not worth getting excited about until you see 3+ reels turn wild. Though it has the possibility of paying out 1000x+, those seem very rare.

well, seeing as youre from Canada, I guess it's moot for you now :D
 

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My best is 2 reels full wild and one wild on another reel. I have done over a hundred runnning sofias. 400x best bet.

My best was last week I got 1st 3rd 4th and 5th all wild and crap on the second and it paid over $8000 on a $3 bet. I would usually bounce between Sofia feature one and the last one switching every 2 bonuses. The wife hit for $1500 on a $1.80 bet the first time I got the Sofia feature but most of the time it was week but it always has that what if to it.
 

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I have had far more success on Playboy than IM's Wild Desire. I usually pick Running Wilds when I have a good balance and can afford a bad feature but I'd say you get a good amount of wild reels every 10-15 features. Most times you get around 10x your bet. It makes the game very high variance - which is why if my balance is lower I generally go for the other features.

I know we've been here a million times, but I'm still not convinced that it makes one jot of difference which one you pick... I reckon you're going to get precisely the same amount of return regardless of what they put on screen for you to look at. :D
 

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I know we've been here a million times, but I'm still not convinced that it makes one jot of difference which one you pick... I reckon you're going to get precisely the same amount of return regardless of what they put on screen for you to look at. :D

It doesnt matter what feature you choose, you will always get the same payout?

btw, just played playboy with 50 euro, 0,60 per spin and 0,90 , 1 feature didnt pay anything, gone in 15 minuts. Differents between Net Ent and microgaming is net ent gives you much more playtime, but not big wins.
 

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As others have said, the Playboy running wilds feature is a very high variance one. There's a good chance that a different set of reels are used compared to the base game, so the ~15 running wilds may not be as impressive as you'd think if the reel strip is like 100 symbols long.

Also, in my experience the wild desire feature will just fizzle out and pay next to nothing the vast majority of the time, so it's pretty much not worth getting excited about until you see 3+ reels turn wild. Though it has the possibility of paying out 1000x+, those seem very rare.

I'd avoided Playboy in the past as the returns were low, but after getting bored of IM I've given it a go. Incredibly on the first times I took the running wilds feature at 2 different casinos I hit the first three reels on full wilds, the first time it paid £1500 as I had 2 links on the last 2 reels, the second time it paid roughly £500 because I had no links on reels 4 and 5, all on £1.50 bets. At a third casino the pay outs have been very, very poor on the running wilds, one was £1.50 (!) so it gets you in the end!

As for Wild Desires in IM, it's never been good for me. The last few times it's hit I've won precisely zero!
 

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Long term I expect you do, or the RTP would be a range rather than fixed.

Microgaming hasn't given out any RTP data themselves, have they? I've seen conflicting data from a couple of different casinos that list the RTP, I think some listing it as 96.xx and others as 97.65 (for Playboy and TFROL), can't remember where I saw the 96.xx though. It's possible that the casinos are listing the RTP wrong, or the different features might differ in value by a little bit - perhaps the later unlocks pay slightly more?

Another possibility is that the RTP value shown represents the maximum achievable, ie. one with "perfect play" - choosing the correct bonus. This would be a bit annoying since there's virtually no way for the player to know how much each bonus is worth, unless they're sufficiently close in value that it's only a minor RTP difference.
 

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I have been told in the past that a software developer gets a game tested and licenced within an RTP range and then is free to choose how it sets it, as long as it is in that range. From what I have seen so far, MGS releases it's games with a single RTP at all licencees: at least, I've yet to see differences. IGT often state the whole range (ie: 92.07 - 95.02%) so unless the operator chooses to publish the exact RTP, you only know it's in that range.

Some Aristocrat games actually will vary depending on how you play the game, but they state that. I've never seen that on an MGS game but there is the odd game where that could be the case. I'm thinking of Dolphin Tale specifically, where you choose the free spins/multiplier.

But with these 243-liners my bet is that the only difference in the features is the variance (volatility).
 

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I know we've been here a million times, but I'm still not convinced that it makes one jot of difference which one you pick... I reckon you're going to get precisely the same amount of return regardless of what they put on screen for you to look at. :D

As others have stated in the long run it does not matter (millions of spins). But the variance is different in all of them. For example I think I have never gotten under 10x(or maybe even 20x) from immortal romance rolling reels feature. But I have gotten under 10x numerously from the 10x5x amber feature.
 

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I have been told in the past that a software developer gets a game tested and licenced within an RTP range and then is free to choose how it sets it, as long as it is in that range. From what I have seen so far, MGS releases it's games with a single RTP at all licencees: at least, I've yet to see differences. IGT often state the whole range (ie: 92.07 - 95.02%) so unless the operator chooses to publish the exact RTP, you only know it's in that range. Some Aristocrat games actually will vary depending on how you play the game, but they state that - plus I've never seen that on an MGS game.

Therefore, on that assumption, the only difference in the features is the variance (volatility).

It seems like these are two different sorts of RTP ranges though. One is a range across different casinos, the first is within a game itself.

By "MGS releases it's games with a single RTP at all licencees," I presume this simply means that games are not configurable by casino operators, so you know that no matter where you play, you're getting the same game. That doesn't seem to preclude the possibility that there is a slight different in the RTP within the game itself, dependent on the player choices.

I'm not saying that the above is the case, simply that I don't know it isn't. Unless you mean that MGS lists a single RTP when it applies for licenses, which would make your point correct unless it was a "perfect play" RTP.

If the RTP does happen to be spot on exactly equivalent, rather than just very close, this would most likely imply that the reels don't spin in an independently random way - ie, your win amount is chosen first, then the reels set to match it, rather than the reverse. I'm not sure whether or not MGS slots generally work in that manner.
 

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MUCH prefer Playboy to IM. Even after a nightmare session on 32Red where I somehow lost £140 on 30p bets trying to get ONE running wilds feature which paid me the grand sum of £1.21! It was the exception to the norm though, because I have ran pretty good on it (some £100+ profit sessions and a lot of £25 to £50 sessions when betting 60p per spin) ever since. I cannot say that at all about IM, where I am a consistent loser. To the extent that I won't more than the bare minimum 30p per spin.

So then, IM features. Wild Desire - sucks. Amber's feature - sucks. Sarah's Wild Wine - sucks. Not once have I hit anything over 10 quid on any of those three features. They are so bad that I actually do better in normal gameplay than I do in those bonus features. Troy's vampire bats is the only one I like (and have had any success with) on IM. And even then it was no more than £40. To sum up, this is how I compare the similar features in terms of my own experiences of run good/run bad on them.

Valkyrie (TS2) > Kimi (PB) > Amber (IM)
Ashley (PB) > Thor (TS2) > Michael (IM)
Troy (IM) > Odin (TS2)
Wild Nights > Wildstorm > Wild Desire
Loki (TS2) > Sarah (IM)

As far as Playboy is concerned, I slightly prefer Wild Nights to Running Wilds in much the same way that I prefer to take expanding wilds on Santa's Wild Ride instead of the stacked wilds. Ashley's rolling reels has been the best of them all in terms of my worst run on it.

Never won less than £20 on rolling reels but never more than £50 - 5OAKs especially difficult to hit as the 4th reels is usually a "stacked picture/AKQJTWild-free"
Won as little as £1.21 on running wilds but have also won £110+ (on one spin with 3 fully stacked wilds helping to make 5OAKs - it was "only" £110 because the wilds were in reels 2,3 and 4 instead of 1,2 and 3)
Won no less than £10 on Wild Nights but have also won £90+ (on one spin despite not making a 5OAK with wilds on reels 2,3 and 4.)
 

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By "MGS releases it's games with a single RTP at all licencees," I presume this simply means that games are not configurable by casino operators, so you know that no matter where you play, you're getting the same game.

I have been told on several occasions and by different MG operators, that MGS run their games from their own servers and the operators have no access to them at all.
 

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Started playing Playboy recently a little as when i logged in to Euro Palace recently for the first time in about a year i saw that they were giving rewards for IM and Playboy.
Was a bit sick of IM so thought would try Playboy and see how i go.

Had a few deposits of $100 with no real great spins and then last night deposited the usual $100
got the free spins and not much of a payout but looking forward to next lot of free spins as i had now qualified for the running wilds
Well to cut a long story short i got the free spins at least 7 times over the next 2 hours and the first go on the running wilds i got 3 full reels and a nice payout
End up withdrawing $1284 from my $100 deposit.
 

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So i made a deposit at 7 Sultans of $100 (was given a $75 bonus) and had a go on Beach Babes first off and won $200 after about 5 spins. woohoo

Better try Playboy i thought after yesterdays nice win.
Dropped about $250 before i finally got the free spins for the first time. Won about a $100 so that was ok but since i hadn't played Playboy at this casino yet had to get them a few more times before i would get to the Running Wilds.
Well by the time i finally withdrew i got them 15 more times.
Finally got thru WR and withdrew $521. Not as good as yesterday but still pretty happy.

Loving this Running Wild feature!:thumbsup:
 

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