New Slot Announcement Phoenix Sun by Quickspin

chiya

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Hot trash, this one is. Made a big mistake by depositing 50€ @ Casumo to claim 100 spins on this. Figured that they - 100 spins @ 0,25 a pop is still 25€ worth of spins. Pretty good, especially if I manage to withdraw my own money after playing with it a bit. Well of course I lost my deposit but that has nothing to do with this slot .. This slot though, on 100 spins, gave me a whopping 6€ of winnings. That's what, ~25% RTP? Truly amazing! Maybe the bonus has potential but seems near impossible to get .. Dead spins one after another, when you finally land a wild and expand those reels it's most likely you either don't see another wild, or if you do, it sure as hell ain't gonna connect to anything.

Pity though. Nice visuals and music on this one but really wasted on this slot as there's just no point to play it ..
 

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Dunover mate it truly is horrendous!
Don't play it in real you'll get thumped I played it with an €86 balance at Videoslots yesterday it took me down to €40(25c bets) without one bonus round..300 spins of mince!

Best win wasn't even 8x bet. It's more brutal than Rhino! :eek2:

Seriously the only thing this is any good for is Cashback because you'll not win much therefore the cashback will be huge!
 

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Dunover mate it truly is horrendous!
Don't play it in real you'll get thumped I played it with an €86 balance at Videoslots yesterday it took me down to €40(25c bets) without one bonus round..300 spins of mince!

Best win wasn't even 8x bet. It's more brutal than Rhino! :eek2:

Seriously the only thing this is any good for is Cashback because you'll not win much therefore the cashback will be huge!

Isn't cashback a fixed amount per spin? I thought that it doesn't matter if you win or lose on a slot, the cashback will be the same for each spin. The amount of cashback in terms of % is different for each slot because the lower the RTP for the slot, the higher the cashback?
 

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This slot was so kind to me last week. Within a few spins was hitting the bonus at both Rizk and VS. It paid some decent amount of money. And then....

It has been absolutely brutal at both casinos....exactly what you describe...deposits gone ...no bonus...base game just as brutal....and no bonus game in sight..
 

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Isn't cashback a fixed amount per spin? I thought that it doesn't matter if you win or lose on a slot, the cashback will be the same for each spin. The amount of cashback in terms of % is different for each slot because the lower the RTP for the slot, the higher the cashback?

I thought it was 25% of overall losses? Therfore if you keep losing dead spin after dead spin it mounts up? Might be wrong?
 

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This is a horrible slot and nearly impossible to hit the bonus on. It is a money pit slot and by far the worst one that Quickspin has come out with. I too lost most of my deposit on it the other day. It was so frustrating to play. One time I had 4 bonus symbol and the bugger refused to give me the 5th. Hate this slot so much.:mad:
 

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I thought it was 25% of overall losses? Therfore if you keep losing dead spin after dead spin it mounts up? Might be wrong?

I think it works this way:

Playing at £1 a spin

Play a 90% TRTP slot = VS makes a profit of 10% of £1 = £0.10 and you get 25% of that, i.e. £0.025 per spin
Play a 95% TRTP slot = VS makes a profit of 5% of £1 = £0.05 and you get 25% of that, i.e. £0.0125 per spin
 

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Typical Quickspin variance, although this may be the highest variance one i played so far, and i pretty much played all of their slots with great perseverance:) Overalll deffo a fan, as basically all of their slots have a special kind of streakyness, which is very cool when the hot mode is on...But, this release, as most of them can indeed go 1000's of spins without either a Bonus, or a few crappy Bonuses instead.

Best to do with Quickspin is either totally go for it with a 1000x bet bankroll, or just do the hit'n run style, where of course you also need to run soon enough if there's no 'hit' to be seen in the first 250 spins...

I've played the new one enough to have experienced one hot streak, but the rest of them were pretty pale in comparison to what i'm used to from these guys..normally they tend to be more medium to low variance in overall gameplay.
I do like the jump from 243 to 7776 ways, seems more ways to win is the 2016/2017 trend..all we need is a few sticky wilds in one of these buggers, and i'm sure they will be quite popular:) Imagine that BTG game with over 100000 ways, with a screen full of sticky wilds, and a few Free Spins to go :p

Nice slot :thumbsup:
 

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I think it works this way:

Playing at £1 a spin

Play a 90% TRTP slot = VS makes a profit of 10% of £1 = £0.10 and you get 25% of that, i.e. £0.025 per spin
Play a 95% TRTP slot = VS makes a profit of 5% of £1 = £0.05 and you get 25% of that, i.e. £0.0125 per spin

That seems very low and my cashback is through the roof sometimes? Yesterdays was nearly €16? I hadn't even wagered that much the week before. Hit quite a few wins last week too.
 

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That seems very low and my cashback is through the roof sometimes? Yesterdays was nearly €16? I hadn't even wagered that much the week before. Hit quite a few wins last week too.

Their cashback is a system based on their profits. You get 25% of their profit not of your losses. Cashback is calculated immediately you leave the slot so the only way it can calculate it is on the theory that I posted. I am sure it has been explained too here on CM by the rep, but I can't find the post :confused:
 

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Their cashback is a system based on their profits. You get 25% of their profit not of your losses. Cashback is calculated immediately you leave the slot so the only way it can calculate it is on the theory that I posted. I am sure it has been explained too here on CM by the rep, but I can't find the post :confused:

How come when i leave say dead or alive if I've took a pounding it will say you earned 0.35 cash back but if I've pounded it 0.02 cashback if i'm lucky.
 

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How come when i leave say dead or alive if I've took a pounding it will say you earned 0.35 cash back but if I've pounded it 0.02 cashback if i'm lucky.

Even when playing at the same bet size? I am going to create a new topic and will ask Dan to explain how their cashback system works. It is handy to know and will be useful for future queries regarding this.
 

chiya

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Hot trash, this one is.

Pity though. Nice visuals and music on this one but really wasted on this slot as there's just no point to play it ..

I'll have to retract this statement. It seems really volatile, but I actually like this game quite a lot now. I'd say it's perhaps one of most volatile games from Quickspin. Played this a ton the other day, got the bonus few times, and each time it paid over 100x. It seems to have massive potential in the FS and I got quite a few "close one's" for over 500x wins. It's still what I'd call a "Destroyer of balance" if you have low bankroll as it can go soooo many spins without a win.

Also this just happened at Casinoheroes where I played freespins on it .. Never seen this happen in any other Quickspin game so I'd say that's a major flaw ... As you can see in the picture, it says my total win is 19,25€. That total win box is in fact the box that shows the total win from all of the free spins I've played so far, but the problem here is that so far I had actually won 0,10€ only. So the box in fact, showed me the amount I would have after the currently on-going game was going to give .. That game did indeed give me feature, and 19,25€ is indeed what I had after the feature. Very disappointing to get a feature and already know what you'd won :mad:

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Had the same thing twice, the game shown me how much I won before the feature even started. I wasn't sure whether that was just me, plus it was while playing free spins on the game and not cash spins. One time was Casino Heroes and one time Videoslots. Really uncool, hope they'll fix that.

As for the game, well I had those two bunches of 10 free spins on that and hit the feature both times which lead me to wrong assumptions about the frequency of hitting the feature - I will be more careful from now on :D
 

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Had the same thing twice, the game shown me how much I won before the feature even started. I wasn't sure whether that was just me, plus it was while playing free spins on the game and not cash spins. One time was Casino Heroes and one time Videoslots. Really uncool, hope they'll fix that.

As for the game, well I had those two bunches of 10 free spins on that and hit the feature both times which lead me to wrong assumptions about the frequency of hitting the feature - I will be more careful from now on :D

At least it settles the old "Are the free spins pre-determined?" question...:D
 

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Personally I think this is a vile game. If you get one bonus symbol it should re-spin without you having to pay for it since the chance of hitting the bonus is small imo. This game is a balance gobbler and nothing more. And here is me thinking that Spinions was bad. This is much much worse. Some of the older Quickspin games are fun and have good gain potential (not great but good). The new ones suck balls.
 
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