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PETA wants Eight Belles Suspended

Discussion in 'The Attic' started by babs7262, May 5, 2008.

    May 5, 2008
  1. babs7262

    babs7262 Banned User

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    and I agree. Eight Belles broke his 2 front ankles just one quarter mile after post time at the gate and he kept him running even though he knew he broke his ankles.

    This jockey should have his ankles broken and run a mile afterwards to see how that feels! Now they want to revoke his 2nd place status. I think the poor horse deserves the 2nd place, he died for it, as for the jockey, take his away!
     
  2. May 5, 2008
  3. just play

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    The horse is a she Babs :D

    I thought she broke her ankles after the race was finished, galloping out?

    And how could she run with 2 broken ankles?

    Could you post a link to where you got this info?
     
  4. May 5, 2008
  5. BingoT

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    That is Sad
    Eight Belles came in 2nd & died after.
    Can't say all them dirty words I like to say about this.
    I heard this too.
     
  6. May 5, 2008
  7. happygobrokey

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    so he blew a couple tires... you gotta ride those rims to the next rest stop.

    but in all seriousness, shouldn't they be against all horse racing, not just hurt horses being raced?

    isn't the ethical treatment of animals to leave them all be, not ever interact with them except as you would in the wild?

    go shut down some zoos and liberate some pets from their enclosures, peta!

    i guess my "all seriousness" didn't last. :thumbsup:
     
  8. May 5, 2008
  9. just play

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    Here's an article on Yahoo news page right now......

     
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  11. just play

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    That's the biggest bunch of crap I ever heard.


    The whipping can't hurt like PETA makes it out to be, how much do horses weigh? In my thoughts when the jockey whips the horse if feels like if you were to walk by your husband and slap him on the butt, and if it did hurt wouldn't they cry or moan like a cat or dog in pain?

    I believe they understand the whipping means "lets get going" it's not painful, it's more of a command.
     
  12. May 5, 2008
  13. Mousey

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    PETA wants publicity. That's all. :mad: I'm all for the ethical treatment of animals. (I cried when Eight Belles was hurt and then put down.) These animals are bred for speed. Evidently their small leg bones are a result of this. Race horses are cursed with leg problems. There should be a change made in the breeding.

    I'm not an expert, but from watching the race -- and replays -- that horse was fine till after the race ended. She gave it all she had. Let her keep her second place.

    And dammit, I'm all teary eyed again... :mad:
     
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  15. winbig

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    I agree. PETA is only out to raise hell whenever they see fit. They could care less about this, or any other horse.

    Want more proof?

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  17. happygobrokey

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    oh and i might add, isn't euthanization the ethical thing to do? you gonna let it suffer there, two front legs broken, immobilized, to starve out?

    and they call for artificial surfaces? pretty sure horses have run on non-artificial surfaces for thousands of years. let's carpet the whole world and pad every sharp corner on earth while we're at it. wouldn't want any defenceless animals to get a boo-boo now.

    and it should be illegal to own a dog and a rolled-up newspaper simultaneously.

    :thumbsup:
     
  18. May 6, 2008
  19. BingoT

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    Eight Belles' Trainer Defends Jockey

    May 6, 2008
    Digg Del.icio.us Facebook Fark Google Newsvine Reddit Yahoo Print Reprints Post comment Text size: LEXINGTON, Ky. - The trainer of euthanized filly Eight Belles adamantly defended the way jockey Gabriel Saez handled the Kentucky Derby runner-up.
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    By Associated Press
     
  20. May 6, 2008
  21. babs7262

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    Sorry about that, I knew EB was a female but I always put "he: lol, I dont know why, maybe its because every single horse with the exception of one was a male.

    Ive been a rider my whole life and my family has been into horse racing forever, infact one cousin (ron ferraro) was world jockey of the year in the 60's and my other cousin (rich ferraro) owned race horses and to this day is an official at Phila Park.

    "most" horses are treated very well and it puts a bad taste in our mouth when something like this happens. I dont feel its animal abuse to race horses unless you get some greedy bastard who's just in it for the money and not the passion they have for the horse.

    The dog races is what i feel is horrible, those poor dogs are run to the ground and the reason they make the best house pet is because they are so wiped out by the time their career is over, they are pretty much too tired to be an aggressive pet and grateful to be able to just chill in the house . I have a friend who has 6 of them! She treats them like gold and so they can enjoy their retirement. If your looking for a dog...this is the kind to adopt! THere are so many of them needing a home and like I said, you wont find a nicer pet to have in your home. Yes, they are big! But they are so lovable
     
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  23. babs7262

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    I just now watched the hour special on Barbaro and watched his jockey pull him from the race within seconds of its start because he knew something wasnt right. Even though he didnt make it, Eight Belles jockey should of pulled his horse from the race too. The Barbaro Jockey said "at that point Ididnt care about winning the race, I had more concern for Barbaro"

    Obviously this jockey didnt
     
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  25. just play

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    WRONG WRONG WRONG

    We owned race greyhounds for years now, we just brought our first one home yesterday.

    The are not "run into the ground" they race for 30 or so seconds I believe only twice a week, they are not allowed more. So how could they be "run into the ground"?

    Why can't greyhound owners be passionate like horse owners as you say? Did you know most greyhound owners who race them also have retired ones as pets? Most contributions to greyhound adoption places are from owners.

    It bothers me when people (not you Babs) think they know what goes on in greyhound racing when they really have no idea.

    The reason they make good pets is because of their demeanor, greyhounds are just nice dogs all around, THAT'S why.
     
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  27. GrandMaster

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    Unfortunately, there are greyhound owners who just kill the dogs when they are too old to race.
     
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  29. just play

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    Of course that happens.


    I just don't like it when people lump some bad people with all people.

    There's bad people in every aspect of life, not just greyhound racing.
     
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  30. May 7, 2008
  31. babs7262

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    I am just going by the person i met who owns 6 of them. She was in market to adopt and started reading all of thess articles on greyhounds and got very involved. They may just run 30 seconds at a time (ive been to a race) but they work them out alot, well , at the time she went into detail and there are thousands of dogs that have nowhere to go because the owners dont want them anymore. THats why she took 6

    Ill find out the exact number, I was just going by what she said and she seemed to know alot on the subject. Let me see if I can find something before I state anything further. I dont want to offend anyone, infact I went to the dog track because I was interested and it was before I heard what she had said
     
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  33. babs7262

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    Some Facts that I have read:

    Daily Existence:
    Racing greyhounds spend the majority of their adult lives in crates or pens or in fenced enclosures. Human companionship is limited. Many enclosures are not climate-controlled, causing the dogs distress during inclement weather.

    They are forced to maim and/or kill bait animals such as rabbits, THousands of Greyhounds are put down each year because they have such a huge surplus. THey are soley used for entertainment and profit unlike horses who usually have passionate owners for that certain animal

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    It would be one thing if these owners had a passion for them but they really dont. It is mostly for profit from what i have read and I have read atleast 10 fact articles


    Something else I feel I should add....Its not that Im some phanatic, I also feel the same way about those pageants for toddlers too. I guess I just feel its wrong to make anyone living thing compete for profit if they dont have their own voice.
     
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    We are involved in it, I'm not going by hearsay. I am going to let this subject lay, as one cannot change anothers mind. If you believe everything you read, that's fine. I'm could dig up bad facts about any subject you name.
     
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  37. GGW Laurie

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    ......i have been to a greyhound race several times and have talked with owners, the S.P.C.A is on site at the track in west memphis , arkansas during the races and they have a place set up there to adopt some of the dogs, i was able to talk to some of the owners and pet the hounds, i found them very lovable and the owners caring people. horse racing and hound racing have been around for ages, longer than P.E.T.A and if the S.P.C.A is onboard i have more faith in what they do than P.E.TA. i have trouble with cock fighting and pitbull fighting where there is no one there to protect the animals and they can fight to the death, thats what we should be concerned about.just my 2- cents worth................laurie
     
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    For example........

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    I went to google and typed in "what happens to retired horses"

    Wow a few bad facts about horse racing.
     

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