perhaps one to avoid

[Alexishot69]

Hi
i really am not one for complaining about losing infact if i was id be doing nothing else...lol...however jenningsbet roulette seems to just take the pi""..over 200+ spins 4 wins covering 6 numbers at 50p a spin...duno what the maths in that one are but it also included streaks of 16 reds in a row number 10 came out 6x in 7 spins number 31 came out 6 x in 8 spins and number 36 came out 6x in 8 spins now please forigve me but surely this is NOT a straight game? why is it casinos like this just dont wanna play fair give the punter a chance at least..im gonna give the gambling a break for a while after that cos i think that a lot of casinos etc are pulling the wool over oureyes with %s etc ..at betfred a month ago i had a similar experience and also lost 200 straight through at 75p a spin on slots...ive even been readin that LIVE games have doubtful outcomes which is pretty worrying really and makes you think about exactly what % are being paid..it never used to be like this i remember when you could deposit 50- and play happily for ages but now it just seems like take take and take as quick as poss...

 

[Rusty]

Playing 6 numbers on 37 number roulette(single zero) should roughly yield a win every (37/6)= 6.16 spins so over 200 spins (200/6.16)= 32.46 is the average amount of wins you can expect.
You say you hit 6 so (32/6)=5.33 so %= 100/5.33=18.76% of expected RTP.
Roulette though is a high variance game the less numbers you bet but even given this and the small sample size you were either very unlucky or it is rigged, not really news I guess but you also mention the frequency of certain numbers and these results would suggest the game is not random or the RNG is faulty.

 

[Alexishot69]

Playing 6 numbers on 37 number roulette(single zero) should roughly yield a win every (37/6)= 6.16 spins so over 200 spins (200/6.16)= 32.46 is the average amount of wins you can expect.
You say you hit 6 so (32/6)=5.33 so %= 100/5.33=18.76% of expected RTP.
Roulette though is a high variance game the less numbers you bet but even given this and the small sample size you were either very unlucky or it is rigged, not really news I guess but you also mention the frequency of certain numbers and these results would suggest the game is not random or the RNG is faulty.

A spectacular degree in maths ...lol..however it wasnt even 6 it was 4 and how convienient to have a faulty rng huh...lol

 

[LaHutti]

Can't wait til the day a player (I'm game!) comes on with a story about winning on the same number 6 times in 8 spins .. that'll be the day

 

[KasinoKing]

Can't wait til the day a player (I'm game!) comes on with a story about winning on the same number 6 times in 8 spins .. that'll be the day

Well not the same number, but I did get this back in the days when roulette was allowed in bonus WR;

(Note: I was betting on the same set of numbers on all spins)

 

[aka23]

Hi
i really am not one for complaining about losing infact if i was id be doing nothing else...lol...however jenningsbet roulette seems to just take the pi""..over 200+ spins 4 wins covering 6 numbers at 50p a spin...duno what the maths in that one are but it also included streaks of 16 reds in a row number 10 came out 6x in 7 spins number 31 came out 6 x in 8 spins and number 36 came out 6x in 8 spins now please forigve me but surely this is NOT a straight game? why is it casinos like this just dont wanna play fair give the punter a chance at least..im gonna give the gambling a break for a while after that cos i think that a lot of casinos etc are pulling the wool over oureyes with %s etc ..at betfred a month ago i had a similar experience and also lost 200 straight through at 75p a spin on slots...ive even been readin that LIVE games have doubtful outcomes which is pretty worrying really and makes you think about exactly what % are being paid..it never used to be like this i remember when you could deposit 50- and play happily for ages but now it just seems like take take and take as quick as poss...

Several of the results you listed are highly abnormal. For example, the chance of a particular number occurring 6+ times in 7 spins is (37/37)*(1/37)^5*(36/37)*7 + (37/37)*(1/37)^6 = 1 in 10 million. The chance of the listed loss in 200 spins is less than 1 in a million.

I believe JenningsBet uses Orbis software, which is known to be buggy. I've attached a screenshot that was posted on my forum, showing the dealer hitting a hard 21 in blackjack

 

[Rusty]

If only I knew a dealer like that in a B&M

 

[Alexishot69]

thnx

hi aka,
..........i read you post and calcs with interest and also the bit regarding orbis gaming which you say is known to be buggy..i wish id known about this but its another one for the notebook to remember NOT to play on sites that use it.the thing i have a slight concern about is the "buggy" bit is that really the case or is it a simple case of cheating?or is that the same thing as buggy...lol

 

[winbig]

Several of the results you listed are highly abnormal. For example, the chance of a particular number occurring 6+ times in 7 spins is (37/37)*(1/37)^5*(36/37)*7 + (37/37)*(1/37)^6 = 1 in 10 million. The chance of the listed loss in 200 spins is less than 1 in a million.

I believe JenningsBet uses Orbis software, which is known to be buggy. I've attached a screenshot that was posted on my forum, showing the dealer hitting a hard 21 in blackjack

Have you shown that shot to the Meister, so he can issue a warning about it?

...forgive me if there's one already

 

[aka23]

If only I knew a dealer like that in a B&M

It reminds me of the Family Guy clip at

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[aka23]

hi aka,
..........i read you post and calcs with interest and also the bit regarding orbis gaming which you say is known to be buggy..i wish id known about this but its another one for the notebook to remember NOT to play on sites that use it.the thing i have a slight concern about is the "buggy" bit is that really the case or is it a simple case of cheating?or is that the same thing as buggy...lol

The screenshot clearly favors the player, so in that instance it is definitely "buggy" and not cheating. Other similar software errors, reasonable results in other games, and Orbis being used at highly reputable casinos (Ladbrokes Games, Totesport Games, VC Games, Lasseters, Blue SQ Games, etc) make me suspect software bugs rather than cheating. I've summarized the data in this thread and other available data in the warning at

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Have you shown that shot to the Meister, so he can issue a warning about it?

...forgive me if there's one already

I don't think Casinomeister has seen the info in this thread yet.