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People begging for money on here?
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vinylweatherman
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Well, he sent me one too, just haven't gotten around to reporting him yet
Something others should bear in mind if they think of trying this on, just like the other "dweeb" who asked to RENT my Casinomeister signature to promote his casinos
When a request comes in like this for MONEY, including transfer details, (tough luck for prostudio - I don't have Moneybookers) I IMMEDIATELY file it away as a "scam". If, however, the request is for ADVICE, or help in some other way, then I will pay more attention to it.
The issue of problem gambling is well understood by some here, including those who were, or still are, in a similar position. They will have no money to offer, but plenty of help.
Drug addiction is in some ways similar to gambling addiction. Both act on "reward" pathways in the brain, and become an addiction when the person can no longer say "not now" to the urge. The treatment for both is similar, but varied. Some will say "cold turkey" is best - a sudden cessation. This, however, requires a high level of support to work in most cases. Another approach is "weaning", a gradual reduction to zero, also under the guidance of a professional. This method tends not to be used for Gambling or Alcohol addiction, but is used in many cases of drug addiction. Heroin addiction, for example, is treated using a substitute that gives the body what it needs, but without giving so much of the addictive "high". The dose of the substitute is then gradually reduced so that the body can return to normal, beating the physical addiction, and hoping that the will is stong enough not to be tempted into a relapse.
Gambling is mostly psycological, with any physical symptoms being psychologically induced. Treatment is complete abstinence, perhaps with the help of blocking software and self exclusion in the case of online gambling, and use of a country wide self banning order in the case of B & M casinos. Along with this, psychological treatment can be offered to tackle the underlying causes of the onset of the addiction in the first place.
What further suggests a scam, is the revelation that prostudio has also asked about pirated software here. This seems like evidence of a scheme, or series of schemes, designed to raise money. This may be for medical treatment, but could also be to support the habits, and sending money for this would NOT be at all helpful to prostudio OR his brother.
On top of all this, how the hell do we VERIFY his story? There have been far cleverer scams perpetrated, where for YEARS others have believed some tale of woe, only to discover they had been "had" all along.
Something others should bear in mind if they think of trying this on, just like the other "dweeb" who asked to RENT my Casinomeister signature to promote his casinosWhen a request comes in like this for MONEY, including transfer details, (tough luck for prostudio - I don't have Moneybookers) I IMMEDIATELY file it away as a "scam". If, however, the request is for ADVICE, or help in some other way, then I will pay more attention to it.
The issue of problem gambling is well understood by some here, including those who were, or still are, in a similar position. They will have no money to offer, but plenty of help.
Drug addiction is in some ways similar to gambling addiction. Both act on "reward" pathways in the brain, and become an addiction when the person can no longer say "not now" to the urge. The treatment for both is similar, but varied. Some will say "cold turkey" is best - a sudden cessation. This, however, requires a high level of support to work in most cases. Another approach is "weaning", a gradual reduction to zero, also under the guidance of a professional. This method tends not to be used for Gambling or Alcohol addiction, but is used in many cases of drug addiction. Heroin addiction, for example, is treated using a substitute that gives the body what it needs, but without giving so much of the addictive "high". The dose of the substitute is then gradually reduced so that the body can return to normal, beating the physical addiction, and hoping that the will is stong enough not to be tempted into a relapse.
Gambling is mostly psycological, with any physical symptoms being psychologically induced. Treatment is complete abstinence, perhaps with the help of blocking software and self exclusion in the case of online gambling, and use of a country wide self banning order in the case of B & M casinos. Along with this, psychological treatment can be offered to tackle the underlying causes of the onset of the addiction in the first place.
What further suggests a scam, is the revelation that prostudio has also asked about pirated software here. This seems like evidence of a scheme, or series of schemes, designed to raise money. This may be for medical treatment, but could also be to support the habits, and sending money for this would NOT be at all helpful to prostudio OR his brother.
On top of all this, how the hell do we VERIFY his story? There have been far cleverer scams perpetrated, where for YEARS others have believed some tale of woe, only to discover they had been "had" all along.
Albania is one of the poorest countrys in Europe. It is also Europes "Nigeria" rife with corruption, fraud and criminal racketeering. Unless documented evidence can be produced by a reputable third party to substantiate his claim then he should be ignored.
In this case the person has forgot one very important detail.....what exactly is the money for? We know now who its for but not what its for, is it for treatment? Caring? whats the illness? whats the prospects? There is absolutly no detail at all.
Money does not solve a gambling problem nor a drug problem, it simply perpetuates the downward cycle. If you can afford to be on the net in Europes poorest country then you can afford to use the net more wisely to seek out the help you need.
These kind of scams prey on peoples gullibility, for every 100 rejections, their will always be one person who will offer help.
Mike
In this case the person has forgot one very important detail.....what exactly is the money for? We know now who its for but not what its for, is it for treatment? Caring? whats the illness? whats the prospects? There is absolutly no detail at all.
Money does not solve a gambling problem nor a drug problem, it simply perpetuates the downward cycle. If you can afford to be on the net in Europes poorest country then you can afford to use the net more wisely to seek out the help you need.
These kind of scams prey on peoples gullibility, for every 100 rejections, their will always be one person who will offer help.
Mike
Like this guy, what a donk. Full story here:
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Yes he fell for a classic 419 scam. These scams have been around now for a decade and people are still falling for them. There are even internet forums set up for them now to tackle this kind of stuff.
You can't afford to get emotional with these criminals, especially when there is a sob story behind it. Otherwise your just playing right into their hands.
In the UK begging is a criminal offence.
Mike
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Just like the poor Kilgore T. who was prayed upon by Nigerian "Frank Peters". But the joke was on Frank, who didn't realize that Mr. T. was not only an ex-monkey wrester and a skilled poet - but the Meister himself
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What makes the story I linked even more "odd" (couldnt find a correct word) is that its from 2007 and the guy used Myspace. So he wasnt totally a interent "noob" and by 2007 I assumed everyone knew about these scams. And he actually fell for it TWICE.
Whenever i see stuff like this it gets very hard to take these people seriously, especially when i get the following emails on a daily basis,
If prostudio is genuine then i hope he gets the help he needs but who can blame any of us when we think its just another scam
If prostudio is genuine then i hope he gets the help he needs but who can blame any of us when we think its just another scam
vegetagirl2008
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What gets me and this seriously pisses me off when they use family members and real life tragedies to ask for money. Now if he was in bad shape why is he using the internet it isn't free. The only thing I can suggest is going to your local support center. Asking people on this forum is not the way to go members here might feel slighted after all its a gambling forum.
You need to please be honest and if your brother needs medicine he can go to the hospital and they will take care of whatever is ailing him. If you have a gambling problem I suggest you get help for that.
You need to please be honest and if your brother needs medicine he can go to the hospital and they will take care of whatever is ailing him. If you have a gambling problem I suggest you get help for that.
Nifty29
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Im sorry, but Im going to be the one to say it (others have skirted around it)and cop the flak.
This is a big steaming pile of BS. It smells so bad I currently have a handkerchief around my nose and mouth just so I can type.
C'mon gang....this guy ADMITS he 'used to have a gambling problem'....which has now magically disappeared...???? Please. Oh, and where did he want the funds sent??? to the hospital?? the doctor??....nope. moneybookers - an online payment system used primarily for GAMBLING.
He wants the money for 'expensive drugs to get his brother off drugs'....so not only is the money 'not for him', it is for his 'brother'. I have a cousin who had a drug problem, and I know for a fact he didnt need any 'drugs' to help him get off the 'drugs'. Yes, I know there ARE medicines that assist like methadone etc, but it isnt the ONLY way....and I have seen studies showing that rehab/cold turkey is still the most effective method, and last time I checked cold turkey was free. Painful, difficult, but nonetheless free.
How about the Red Cross? How about seeking help from websites that provide advice and support for addicts and their families? You aint gonna get that from a GAMBLING website are you??? No, but you might find someone stupid enough to actually give you money, which I fear is the purpose of your panhandling.
The best way to help your brother is to have his stay at your house, convince him to go cold turkey and nurse him through the withdrawals like a loving relative. You dont need MONEY for that, just love and compassion. You need to face the fact that if your brother doesnt WANT to stop, no medicine in the world is going to work...he will just go back. Cold turkey HURTS and it is horrible...I have seen it....but remember it was your brother who chose to take the drugs in the first place and it is his responsibility to put and end to it....no addict of any kind will EVER be free of their addiction until they take full personal responsibility for their own actions and decide they want a better life.
Now, if you want anyone to actually take you seriously then you need to name the medicine required, the cost, and the amount needed. You could also post a pic of your brother and tell us more about his problem. Im not holding my breath.
As always, I will stand corrected if I get it wrong but if anyone seriously thinks they can trust an unknown guy from the poorest part of Albania who 'used' to have a gambling problem (cant have been that poor to begin with....) with their hard-earned cash then it probably explains why there are so many people in Nigeria getting rich overnight.
Mousey
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It always gets weird in here during Holidays.... :smilewink:
Thank you!
thank you for your post and everything its real of what you say and thank you all members who think bad and good for me!
The only real problem is that i dont find the right way to do that!
Only GOD knows my truth and i assure all of you that everything i said its truth.
He go to rehab/he use methadon/and he cant stop!
1.I am not addicted anymore in gambling cause i lose everything and i dont wont to lose the last thing BELIVE of family members in me!
2.I never scam or try to scam people
3.I was scammed but never think to scam others and i belive in GOD
4.I used moneybookers or i thinked to use that cause is the fast and simple way....
5.Sorry all but as i said it was a bad moment
6.I never use my family members to scam people to send to me some money
7.I work and i can solve things but thinking that maybe people far away and from richest countries will help me
8.I choose gambling forum and not drugs addiction forums cause i am a gambler and here i read and i here i spend my time!
9. Thank you and SORRY again
10.Dont HATE if you dont know a person....i am always good with honest people....
I wish a great christmas for all and i am not like those people who think now its christmas and all will open their pocket....for me
I am just sorry that to much here thinked that i try to scam anyone here.....
thank you for your post and everything its real of what you say and thank you all members who think bad and good for me!
The only real problem is that i dont find the right way to do that!
Only GOD knows my truth and i assure all of you that everything i said its truth.
He go to rehab/he use methadon/and he cant stop!
1.I am not addicted anymore in gambling cause i lose everything and i dont wont to lose the last thing BELIVE of family members in me!
2.I never scam or try to scam people
3.I was scammed but never think to scam others and i belive in GOD
4.I used moneybookers or i thinked to use that cause is the fast and simple way....
5.Sorry all but as i said it was a bad moment
6.I never use my family members to scam people to send to me some money
7.I work and i can solve things but thinking that maybe people far away and from richest countries will help me
8.I choose gambling forum and not drugs addiction forums cause i am a gambler and here i read and i here i spend my time!
9. Thank you and SORRY again
10.Dont HATE if you dont know a person....i am always good with honest people....
I wish a great christmas for all and i am not like those people who think now its christmas and all will open their pocket....for me
I am just sorry that to much here thinked that i try to scam anyone here.....
First off I want to say that when I said this problem should have not made it to a thread I meant the person/persons you were soliciting should have turned the matter over to the meister or a moderator.
As for you thinking this is a rich country, let me give you some reality, there are millions here that are on welfare and food stamps. Living on the streets, eating at food kitchens just to survive. Although there may be rich people in this country, I seriously doubt you will find them on this or any other forum and I also seriously doubt that you would find them to be generous, that is why they are rich because they are horders of money and property and when they see a poor beggar on the street they will more than likely just walk around them with a look of disgust.
When people in other countries look at the US they have this false illusion that it is a place of wealth and grandeur, mostly because these ideas have been shaped by movies and mainstream media, but it is just that, an illusion.
Our dollar is only worth 4 cents, we don't own our national parks, we don't own our ports, we have lost most of our industries to other countries thus putting millions out of work. People are losing their homes because jobs are dissapearing and they can't make the horrid mortgage payments, they are losing their vehicles to be able to go out and seek jobs because they can't make the car payments or keep up the insurance that is by law required.
You can look at our big fabulous cities and churches from a distance and think how grand and glorious it must be to live in such a country. But take a closer look and you will see people begging on the streets, sleeping in alleys and cardboard boxes. You may watch tv evangelists on the stages in their palaces with their Armani suits, gold watches and jewelry and perfect hair and you know if you have any sense at all that they are not helping the poor in this country because greed has overcome them as well and they only help themselves to continue to live the lifetstyles of the rich and famous while members of their very own churches tith their last money they have in their pockets because they think the prosperity preaching will reward them as they see it has rewarded these preachers. Yet they go home hungry, out of work, still can't make their bills, lose everything they have and live in fear and dread for what tomorrow will be.
As for thinking because people here gamble and are making money, well they most likely need what they do happen to win to pay their mortgages, car payments, insurance payments, medical, gas, bills, groceries, help their families and I could go on. So not all these winners are just playing for fun because they have money coming out their asses. Most people are only spending $25, $35 or whatever and very occasionally hit it lucky. But gambling is just that a gamble because there are many as well that lose everything. So you can't expect gambling to solve your problems, it never will.
So don't use the example of the crap on tv to judge this country by, because there are plenty of people here that couldn't tell you the difference between living here in the US from living in Romania or any other of the poorest countries.
alabama5150
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I am glad this was posted
I think that sometimes the forums online can open one up for less than good behavior, and this kind of thread could help educate newbies, or people who might take the asking party as telling truth.
I have heard of this at a casino I play at, although quite sometime ago a year maybe. There is also a similar kind of thing that happened with Gone Gambling. Except that one went way beyond a simple asking. As I recall it was quite elaborate attempt.
Anyway, John over there sent an email and said do not fall for sob stories and by all means send no money to anyone. The risk is quite real that some nice person could be taken advantage of.
Yeah I am sure that in this economy anyone would welcome money, but there are no no's. This is the kind of thing that makes forums look bad. Its quite the opposite in reality ..because this was posted , then hopefully nobody will get hurt.
A side note to ElisIf there happens to be a sick relative for real,
.. then ask the drug company for
free medicine. Almost every single drug company offers a certain amount of meds for free, especially if its for a serious condition. It is not something that is too publicized. But I know of this first hand, from a relative of mine.
Happy Holidays and Good Fortune in the New Year!
I think that sometimes the forums online can open one up for less than good behavior, and this kind of thread could help educate newbies, or people who might take the asking party as telling truth.
I have heard of this at a casino I play at, although quite sometime ago a year maybe. There is also a similar kind of thing that happened with Gone Gambling. Except that one went way beyond a simple asking. As I recall it was quite elaborate attempt.
Anyway, John over there sent an email and said do not fall for sob stories and by all means send no money to anyone. The risk is quite real that some nice person could be taken advantage of.
Yeah I am sure that in this economy anyone would welcome money, but there are no no's. This is the kind of thing that makes forums look bad. Its quite the opposite in reality ..because this was posted , then hopefully nobody will get hurt.
A side note to ElisIf there happens to be a sick relative for real,
.. then ask the drug company for
free medicine. Almost every single drug company offers a certain amount of meds for free, especially if its for a serious condition. It is not something that is too publicized. But I know of this first hand, from a relative of mine.
Happy Holidays and Good Fortune in the New Year!
WonderingSpirit
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If you want money, you should send a mail to everyone on this list. They as you, are also very honest , and Im sure they will give you lots of donations, and since they are not connected to the forum, it will not upset the members and the casinomeister.
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.....Chayton has just undergone some major surgery...
...And then there are the gamblers.
Actually I'm both! I've had several people here on the forum gift me some money to play with recently because I was broke and bored - or broke and stressed. I'd never ask for money to gamble with - the people who did gift me money made the offer, I didn't go chasing after them begging after they had a big win. That's just not cool, no matter what justification you think you have.
And as far as having another reason for asking for money....c'mon seriously - this is a gambling forum. If you weren't a gambler you wouldn't be a member here. If I couldn't afford my medicine or had trouble paying my bills or anything, I'd hit up my friends or my family or I'd find an online agency that could help or a forum where people would give me advice on what services are available to me in my country. I certainly wouldn't join a gambling forum and start hitting up total strangers with my sob story.
EDIT: If anyone would like to hear my sob story...? Nevermind, just kidding....
This may sound a little funny but im almost 100% sure I've seen this person around the pokerroom forum doing theb exact same thing, what stands out si the name, I actually think s/he is using the same name as before.
Was very prolific in asking for money and was online nearly everyday asking to be gifted.
Some I've seen you will tell them to GO AWAY! and they just dont get it, they will keep at you and keep at you.
It's like something is just not clicking up there and even though you say no 20 odd times they still think there is a slim chance they may get something and if they think you may give them something they will then say jesus is watching over you or the will pray for you.
your right though if someone can afford the internet they can surely afford to help a family memeber out.
PROSTUDIO- I believe in Karma and if your trying to be dodgy here it is going to come back to you threefold.
Was very prolific in asking for money and was online nearly everyday asking to be gifted.
Some I've seen you will tell them to GO AWAY! and they just dont get it, they will keep at you and keep at you.
It's like something is just not clicking up there and even though you say no 20 odd times they still think there is a slim chance they may get something and if they think you may give them something they will then say jesus is watching over you or the will pray for you.
your right though if someone can afford the internet they can surely afford to help a family memeber out.
PROSTUDIO- I believe in Karma and if your trying to be dodgy here it is going to come back to you threefold.
I am Prostudio
To all member of casino meister.....
Sorry if i am using my brother account but this is the only way i can comunicate.
While " come back in some time before" i see many replies to my thread on "Asking money to members"
It was a mistake and i accepted.....
For laurie and some other members who really belived to me i just wanted to inform that i do not gamble anymore and i am paying ( for one year or more ) all my debts and also my brother do not take anymore drugs.....
God helped us and i wish will help all of you on all your needs....
God bless al the people of this wonderful forum...
I want to ask to MEISTER to give to me posibility to post again and to see newest posts because in my account i cant see nothing.....
Thank you
To all member of casino meister.....
Sorry if i am using my brother account but this is the only way i can comunicate.
While " come back in some time before" i see many replies to my thread on "Asking money to members"
It was a mistake and i accepted.....
For laurie and some other members who really belived to me i just wanted to inform that i do not gamble anymore and i am paying ( for one year or more ) all my debts and also my brother do not take anymore drugs.....
God helped us and i wish will help all of you on all your needs....
God bless al the people of this wonderful forum...
I want to ask to MEISTER to give to me posibility to post again and to see newest posts because in my account i cant see nothing.....
Thank you
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What is it with the necro threads today ?
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Well, I am glad to see that you are improving your life. You know you shouldn't be using your brother's account, but I think it might have been more suitable to use it to PM a mod to ask to be reinstated.
You've not asked for anything other than a reinstatement, but I must say that you seem to be on the right track, and rejoining here might just be an inducement to gamble again.
I wish you and your brother well.
You've not asked for anything other than a reinstatement, but I must say that you seem to be on the right track, and rejoining here might just be an inducement to gamble again.
I wish you and your brother well.
Nifty29
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If you're "not gambling anymore" why would you need to visit here anyway? I would have thought someone with such a serious problem would be avoiding anything to do with gambling.
If you wanted your account re-opened you should have contacted Bryan instead of using your brother's account.
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very true I think they forget to check the date after a search.
I didn't mind with this one to much after reading Bryan's link
Old URL
Gave me a laugh and a read for a while.
Cheers
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Prostudio's account is in the "less than zero" user group - that's from receiving negative reputation points from his peers - thus it's hindered from starting new threads, PMing, and posting in the "complaints" section. I won't override the wishes of the members so Prostudio's account stays as is.
@blerko1 - do not let your bro use your account. That's multiple account abuse and we will close your account if it happens again. Thank you.
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Prostudio's account is in the "less than zero" user group - that's from receiving negative reputation points from his peers - thus it's hindered from starting new threads, PMing, and posting in the "complaints" section. I won't override the wishes of the members so Prostudio's account stays as is.
@blerko1 - do not let your bro use your account. That's multiple account abuse and we will close your account if it happens again. Thank you.
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