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[Alexishot69]

agreed

i dont for one sec have aan agenda aginst pampercasino but i have to say in MY opinion this reeks of rogueness..the london is obviously there to make people more confident about playing when infact its nothing to do with london at all..the fact they tell barefaced lies on spammail id suggest was another clear warning that this casino should be once again in MY opinion avoided like the plague.they also claim to have a call centre in india i mean really how can a casino run out of costa rica with a london address have a call centre in india...i mean relaly id suggest this nappy for the pit but once again its ONLY MY opinion...

 

[vinylweatherman]

i dont for one sec have aan agenda aginst pampercasino but i have to say in MY opinion this reeks of rogueness..the london is obviously there to make people more confident about playing when infact its nothing to do with london at all..the fact they tell barefaced lies on spammail id suggest was another clear warning that this casino should be once again in MY opinion avoided like the plague.they also claim to have a call centre in india i mean really how can a casino run out of costa rica with a london address have a call centre in india...i mean relaly id suggest this nappy for the pit but once again its ONLY MY opinion...

They will have to do something more serious. If it were shown that they were deliberately contracting spammers, that should be enough. Giving false information would also be enough, but the rep has not sought to hide the fact that they are run from Costa Rica here, although the London address does seem to be some kind of ruse to lure players into thinking the casino is UK based, without actually making that claim. New players will see that address, and will think there is a UK connection, which would mean that English law would govern their relationship with the casino should something go wrong.
Reputable casinos have offices in the UK and servers elsewhere, but they actually have staff in them, and often run their support from the UK offices, at least for their English speaking players.

 

[Alexishot69]

quick update

I have private messaged mr pamper about the answers hes forgotten to give but no reply..maybe too busy reading the best recommendations magazine perhaps...

 

[pampercasino]

Addressing Vinylweatherman's posts for the last time in this or any thread....

I see you keep insisting we are "trying to bring legitimacy" to the business by "stating we are located in the UK" and keep coming up with newer and more fantastic theories about why things are the way they are.

I think you need to have a chat with someone who is familiar with how online casinos incorporate and why that is. The language on the "about us" page is a legal and contractual necessity as per the guidelines set by our Visa/Mastercard processor in Europe. Anyone charging their visa/mastercard on our site will be charged by "Operia Corp Limited, London". Our Merchant account is issued by one of the largest banks in Europe. They have been contracted by Pamper's parent company - Operia Corp Limited, London. That parent company is incorporated in London. Nowhere does it state that Pamper Casino is located in London. It is not. It's parent company is. Most online casinos located in Costa Rica that have such merchant accounts are structured in this manner. There is nothing unique about our structure....

To Alexishot69 and addressing the reason this thread was started in the SPAM forum,

I see you have gotten off your claims of spam now and want to take this thread into a different direction. I am here to address genuine player issues of which there was only one in this entire thread - Did we spam you? I think not. I am pretty sure you have not unsubscribed even now as Vinylweatherman knew about this week's promotion immediately and it was emailed to our players and not posted prominently anywhere on the site (as weekly promotions never are) That means either he or you are subscribed to our list and want to get emails to come post them here claiming spam or worse. I will end that now.

You have 2 choices :

1> Provide me your email address to have you removed from our list that you subscribed to.
2> Unsubscribe from our list and provide me a screenshot of the unsubscription confirmation page. This screenshot would need to feature the email address you are unsubscribing from so we know which email you unsubscribed (in case you have subscribed with more than 1 email)

After doing either option #1 or #2 if you still receive any promotional email from us or any affiliate of ours working with the icontact community (such as maarten) we are prepared to pay you $ 10000 as penalty. We are prepared to sign a contract with you to that effect. The contract will include a term that will clearly state that if you do claim we spam without clear evidence in any public or private setting you will be liable to pay a penalty of $ 10000 as well. We are prepared to escrow this $ 10000 in a UK bank if you are prepared to escrow your $ 10000 as well.

If you wish to sign this contract/establish this escrow please email me at richard@pampercasino.com

In conclusion, I am not going to address any further posts in this thread as I feel it is full of deliberate misinformation, innuendo & baseless claims and is being used as a propaganda tool against us. We have made it pretty clear that I am here to address real player issues only. Not to discuss our policies, terms & conditions, business structure or anything else that is unrelated to real player issues.

To any real player at Pamper Casino reading this thread - As of this post, no member of our organization will respond to anything posted in this thread so if you have a genuine player issue you would like addressed please email me at richard@pampercasino.com and I will get back to you immediately.

The forum administrator is obviously free to lock this thread or leave it open. Either way, we will not address it further.

 

[Alexishot69]

Not quite sure what to make of this but my first reaction is amazement ...where do i start well the 2 choices ive been given are 1 and the same both giving my email address that i have already unsubscribed from ..then we move onto the escrow loot well hmmmm 10000 seems a rather strange number to have a currency sign before it most i think i have seen is less than half that so to be able to put 10000 into escrow forever seems less likely than shergar riding lord lucan in next years derby which will be run in a snowstorm with 70 degree temps....to be honest the part regarding taking the thread in another direction seems to confuse me also becaause the question related to content of a SPAM email and all i wanted to know was where were they voted BEST RECOMMENDATIONS no1 no-download casino...seems a fair question to be honest..and for a legit grup would have answered easily...now do i email him with a secret meeting place or just call the call centre in india gee nappy man you have me in a quandary....

 

[vinylweatherman]

Not quite sure what to make of this but my first reaction is amazement ...where do i start well the 2 choices ive been given are 1 and the same both giving my email address that i have already unsubscribed from ..then we move onto the escrow loot well hmmmm 10000 seems a rather strange number to have a currency sign before it most i think i have seen is less than half that so to be able to put 10000 into escrow forever seems less likely than shergar riding lord lucan in next years derby which will be run in a snowstorm with 70 degree temps....to be honest the part regarding taking the thread in another direction seems to confuse me also becaause the question related to content of a SPAM email and all i wanted to know was where were they voted BEST RECOMMENDATIONS no1 no-download casino...seems a fair question to be honest..and for a legit grup would have answered easily...now do i email him with a secret meeting place or just call the call centre in india gee nappy man you have me in a quandary....

Forget that 10K, you will never see it. They have little chance of applying 100% control over their affiliates, no casino can - so inevitably spam will be sent to you, and thus you would qualify for the $10000. There is no way you should risk your own $10000 in such a dodgy scheme, it is only an even money bet, and you would have to cease complaining about spam, or forefeit your own $10000.

"Best Recommendations Magazine" - lengthy post, but STILL this question has been dodged. Perhaps there is no such magazing, it has been made up, just like many other casinos' claims that they are "Number 1". It is clearly not the fact that every single damn online casino is "the number one choice", but so many do!

The explanation of Operia? A convenience company, purely set up for the purposes of receiving credit card payments because VISA/Mastercard will have nothing to do with a company based in Costa Rica. Since this is the companies only function, to run a merchant account for the casino, it only needs an address in the UK, a legal requirement for registering a limited company here, no actual office or staff, hence it was not listed in that London guide to this business complex. The Pizzaria was simply a "red herring", being the ground floor of that particular street address, with a couple of other companies occupying the offices above.

As for Costa Rica, and online casinos.

Well, most casinos do use some kind of structure as outlined by the Pamper rep for processing card payments, but also it can be said that most casinos "licenced" in Costa Rica are dodgy.

Pamper casino is NOT allowed to advertise in the EU since Costa Rica is not on the whitelist.

I knew about the promotion because I WAS SPAMMED - (only the once mind), I have NEVER, EVER, registered at Pamper casino, so what I received was Spam. Alexishot did sign up, so initially the newsletters were legit, but it seems the unsubscribe function is not working.

The Pamper rep is overly keen to get hold of even MORE of Alexishot's data, claiming the Email address will not be misused, and is offering a too good to be true $10000 if a verified unsubscribe attempt fails - utterly ridiculous!

 

[GaryWatson]

Im sure VW will make mistakes within posts but often that is down to the fact it is like drawing blood out of a stone trying to find information on the sites.

Its good that a rep will take the time to respond so he deserves credit for that although I feel they need to stick to the facts.

Costa Rica is a bit like the wild west. Regulations mean very little there.

I saw my spam box last night, 848 emails, lol. I generally have to go through them every few days or so to make sure I dont miss any real emails.

Ive stopped opening

Hey!
in response :
free
I miss you
what?
you have a free offer waiting for you.

Spam can be annoying but I dont see it as the worst offense

 

[Alexishot69]

i do

i do agree to a certain point about spam gary but the fact you unsubscribe from something and still recieve it is a little more than annoying..this casino in question has dodged all questions that as a potential customer i woul dlik eto ask and the spam emails contain things that if i wanted to join wuld like to know the answer to...incidentally operia corp ltd used to be until april known as european interservices ltd..

 

[GaryWatson]

I agree Alexis. The problem is many of the questions posed cannot be answered, if you know what I mean.

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I find spam annoying but I dont have a 10 year old kid subjected to porn or free casino offers

 

[c_note]

Pamper Me Pretty

Had to step in and throw down my 3 euro cents :

1. Visa & Mastercard will require a merchant to identify themselves correctly on their website. "Themselves" is the fun part, since they do not need to identify the website owner, but rather the company that has the merchant facility. In this case, Operia Corp Ltd will hold the processing agreement that allows them to accept cards.

2. Operia Corp Ltd is a properly formed and registered UK Company :
From The Companies House website :

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OPERIA CORP LIMITED
30 BOROUGH HIGH STREET
LONDON
SE1 1XU
Company No. 06426479

3. 30 BOROUGH HIGH STREET, SE1 1XU
There are lots of businesses and companies registered to this address. The most interesting is "Lincroft Associates Ltd" (

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). They offer all sorts of corporate services, including Company Registration and address services.

What the above tells me is that Pampers needed to use an EU registered company to get their merchant services with whichever bank it was they chose, and used Lincroft to register the company for them, with the lincroft address. This keeps the banks & Visa/MC happy. Visa & MC insist that Pamper Casino place the correct billing descriptor on their website, which will be The name of the company that has the agreement.

Most Casinos not licensed or based in the EU will have something similar in place. They might be happy to run out of CR & Panama, but they will want decent banks managing their money.


Anti Flame Note : Statements above do not reflect a personal opinion regarding Pamper Casino, their operations or business ethics. As a father, when I saw "Pamper" casino, my immediate thought involved the back ends of babies.

 

[Alexishot69]

Good

post and the idea will be that anyne depositing will have no problems but anyone withdrawing will then find themselves in serious s**t but if anyone finds themselves in serious s**t then what to do phone the costa rican authorities and see how little they care ...sorry pamper but IMHO and it seems countless others your lack of answering decent questions will in the end cost you unless of course you cant answer then youll have saved a lot of people a lot of ...see i always knew nappies were bad...

 

[Alexishot69]

return of an old friend

Woke this morning to find this in my inbox.now why oh why didnt i take up the offer of that 10000 from nappies casino...lol

From: Pamper 2525% Weekly bonus (2525week@pampercasino.com)
09 September 2008 02:43:34
To:
xxxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com



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Ive xxx out the www etc cos i dont wanna give them more advertising ..but gee its tempting this 2525% bonus....NOTTTTTTT.

 

[winbig]

Who'd play here in the first place?

The maximum cashout limitation is permanently enforced on your account once you take any deposit bonus. All future withdrawals become limited to the most recent maximum cashout you had with the last bonus you took.

So you take that 2000% bonus on a $100 deposit, and you're stuck to a max withdrawal even if you never take a bonus in your life again.

What happens when you go to deposit $3000? Should you just write a check over to them for $1000 and call it a day?

 

[Alexishot69]

yup

IMHO this is nomore than a clip joint and anyone who deposits here must really be loaded or drunk or both

 

[RatAttack]

Never heard of this company before, got a spam mail offering me the $100 bonus. I'm guessing it's to be avoided? Read through this thread, why are they not on the Rouge list? I usually check this sites Rouge list before playing anywhere, lucky I googled and found this.

 

[slafs]

I also got spammed yesterday by Pampers. Or more specifcally, the same affiliate that was mentioned earlier in this thread. It's obvious that Pampers don't mind! Good thing they share their confirmed email addresses with their affiliates :xxx

We share our unsubscribe list with all affiliates who do permission based email marketing

Like RatAttack, I took a Google, but the first I found was this telling me that they're REMOVED from the NR list :
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/pamper-casino-warning.25466/

A small forum-search brought me here, and I can't say I'm very impressed by the casino rep. He's getting his pampered behind kicked by street-wise forum members who can spot a rouge when they see one. Answering only the questions you want to answer is a classic rouge forum tactic, but in my mind only makes you look more rougish.

Just for the record: I've never signed up for this joint. Probably because it SCREAMS rouge. Shouldn't they at least be the "caution" list??

 

[vinylweatherman]

OK addressing the posts since my last post in this thread.

1> I'm afraid I don't believe Alexi has unsubscribed from the list. She was claiming as of last weekend (last time the newsletter went out) that we (not the affiliate) emailed her the weekly newsletter after she had unsubscribed. That is simply not possible unless she did not unsubscribe correctly. We have less than zero interest in mailing to a player who is unsubscribing from the promotions. It makes us no money and causes unnecessary headaches like this thread.

NO ONE else anywhere on the internet is claiming they have unsubscribed from our weekly newsletter and continue to get our emails since that simply does not happen. So either Alexi does not know how to do it or does not want to do it.

Either way, Alexi, please provide me your email to have you removed from the list. If you refuse to provide it and continue to post our weekly newsletters here and keep claiming they are spam I can only assume you are not interested in unsubscribing and want to continue this and I will stop responding to your claims.

We share our unsubscribe list with all affiliates who do permission based email marketing as we do not want people who don't wanna hear from us to hear from our affiliates either. So if Alexi unsubscribed from our list she would not hear from this affiliate either. I am looking forward to her getting our weekly newsletter this weekend and claiming that it is spam again.

2> Regarding Vinyl's claims, who is not a customer and who I unfortunately again have to address due to his very vivid imagination (vis-a-vis the "office pizzeria" stuff this time) 30 Borough High Street is indeed a business complex in London. You can have a look at all the offices there at :

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We have never claimed the casino operates out of the London office. I made that pretty clear to Bryan before he posted his retraction. We operate out of Costa Rica. Operia Corp Limited (parent company of Pamper Casino) maintains a presence in London due to legal and contractual obligations. No actual casino related work is done from there.

Pamper Casino's offices are located in Costa Rica. That is where management & part of CS is located. We also have a call center in India that handles the bulk of our CS for our EU clients. I hope that puts this issue to rest once and for all.

3> Finally, Bryan, I also googled +"af=maarten2&bn=44" and did not find anything except a couple advertising links. We do not accept affiliates that spam. The affiliate Maarten works very closely with us and we are pretty sure he is fully compliant on all email guidelines. If Maarten is spamming we wanna know about it. Please PM/email me some stuff on this if you have it.

Vivid imagination eh!!

As you say, I am NOT a customer, and therefore have not been automatically opted in to what you call your "newsletter".

Did I imagine this then

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Hi <my REAL name, properly spelt, and in full>,

Just thought I'd let you know about the current special promotion running at Pamper Casino :

$ 100 no-strings attached free chip. Coupon code : 100FREE

Connect now :

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The 3000% bonus is a special limited time promotion. Take advantage today before this promotion ends!

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Deposit via any credit card including Visa, Mastercard, American Express and Diners or use Moneybookers, Neteller, EWalletXpress, Click2pay, Western Union or Moneygram.

This message was sent to Brian Hems at brian.hems@ntlworld.com on behalf of Pamper Casino at Plaza Heredia, Heredia, Costa Rica.

To no longer hear from us please visit :

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Yet you claim you DON'T SPAM, nor allow it from "affiliates".

This blows your defense of Alexis' claims out of the water, subscribing, unsubscribing, etc has no bearing whatsoever. According to your argument, I should never have received this, and you could have ended up owing Alexis $10,000 - but since it seems guaranteed that you would have been called upon to pay up, the offer simply had to be a "scam", with the intent to wriggle out of paying had she been foolish enough to match your supposed $10K with $10K of real money in some mystified Costa Rican escrow account.

This is Pamper spam number THREE for me to my recollection, and this last one was TODAY.

 

[Alexishot69]

well said

VWM excellent post and to e honest im also wondering why this site aint in the warnings bit..3000% bonus i mean really theyre as well advertising they offer 1m for a $10 deposit cos youve as much chance getting your loot as buyin a return t mars within the week...

 

[vinylweatherman]

VWM excellent post and to e honest im also wondering why this site aint in the warnings bit..3000% bonus i mean really theyre as well advertising they offer 1m for a $10 deposit cos youve as much chance getting your loot as buyin a return t mars within the week...

DAMN! I forgot to edit out a few things. I get loads of spam to that Email anyway, so probably will not make any difference.

Interestingly, just got this

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Nappy Awareness week.

In conjunction with this event, our sister casino, Huggies, is offering one lucky player a free trip to Mars on the first commercially available flight.

Click Here for details..........

 

[vinylweatherman]

Long time between nappy changes

Today:-

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Really, and after only 2 months

Pamper Casino accepts Visa/Mastercard/American Express deposits from US players!

Do they now Does Mastercard know about this?

Only a mere 2000% bonus after the free chip, boy! things must be getting tough for them

Perhaps they got a sore a$$ from all that Nappy rash

 

[skywalker]

SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT AT PAMPERCASINO

Hello I am new, and will introduce myself later, but I have a few things to say about Pampercasino. First of after searching for a no download casino, I came across them and claimed their 100 free no deposit chip, but I didn't win with it, so I decided to deposit $20 or $30 and claim their 2000% bonus and I was surprised how easily I met wagering requirements of 30x the deposit plus bonus. I was then able to cashout about $400, but ever since then when I deposit nothing but lose my money, I was surprised how swiflty the slot machines changed and I tried for about 3 weeks almost everyday playing there, and same old crap. Something is definetly not right there. It is my opinion that all should steer clear of them.