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Original or Fake?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Perez777, Mar 31, 2015.

    Mar 31, 2015
  1. Perez777

    Perez777 Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Online poker player
    Location:
    Russia,Yaroslavl
    Hi. There are representatives of netent and novomatic?
    Tell please, at the site casino-ramses.com original software or a fake?
     
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  2. Mar 31, 2015
  3. Captain Chaos

    Captain Chaos Senior Member webby

    Occupation:
    Train Guard
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Given they can't even spell Rameses correctly in the name of their casino I wouldn't be too hopeful. Is there an option to free play? Usually they don't payout correctly, slight graphical changes and such.
     
  4. Mar 31, 2015
  5. Perez777

    Perez777 Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Online poker player
    Location:
    Russia,Yaroslavl
    Their representative declares that they have an original software.
    In my opinion it is fake, high quality, but fake.

    p.s sorry for my english.
     
  6. Mar 31, 2015
  7. ugaboga

    ugaboga Casino Addict

    Occupation:
    Information Technology, Day Trader
    Location:
    Australia
    Russians are very good programmers and graphic artists, they're very capable of producing very good fakes.
     
  8. Mar 31, 2015
  9. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Should be obvious:rolleyes:


    Also,


    Might be worth checking that out too, probably fake as well.
     
  10. Mar 31, 2015
  11. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

    Occupation:
    International Money Launderer
    Location:
    the bus shelter, opposite GCHQ Benhall
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2015
  12. Mar 31, 2015
  13. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

    Occupation:
    International Money Launderer
    Location:
    the bus shelter, opposite GCHQ Benhall
    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    A convenience address at a hired mailbox it seems. Maybe necessary for taking of card/webwallet deposits. You can't play the games in free without joining, they also have Playtech games and Aristocrat.

    Aleksandrs Jekabsons is listed as Director, a Latvian. Listed as an 'affiliate manager' according to LinkedIn

    Affiliate Manager at getgamers.ru


    The company capital value is £1 - clearly a front company.
    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    There are HUNDREDS of other companies using this hired convenience address too.

    I wouldn't go near this site.
     
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  14. Apr 1, 2015
  15. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    This is something the UK authorities should be getting a grip on. They are allowing the UK company system to be misused by criminals who are trying to make their scams look legit.
     
  16. Apr 1, 2015
  17. ThePOGG

    ThePOGG Meister Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    Casino Affiliate
    Location:
    UK
    Dunover gave me a heads-up about this thread - Thanks!!

    I've contacted NetEnt - casino-ramses.com is a fake. They're liaising with various Cyber Crime agencies to investigate these ongoing issues.

    I'm going to take a guess - given the ownership of Vulcan Partners Limited and the very similar game selection - that Casino-Ramses is connected to the same group that are running WelcomePartners.com (lots of casinos there using some version of the name 'Vulcan'). Many of the casinos in this group appear to be running fake games.

    Some interesting connections though - Welcome Partners also advertise 3 Playtech casinos, Ice, Green and Max. If you look up their owners (Invicta Networks N.V.) you'll also find NeoPlay casino. NeoPlay are an interesting one - their site is a 100% clone of Winner casino. They previously listed their ownership as "Brivio Limited" while Winner listed their ownership as "Brivio ZIRCONIUM GAMING LIMITED". I think it's far from unfair to assume that NeoPlay are owned by the same group that operates Winner. NeoPlay also share ownership with 3 other Playtech casinos advertised by Welcome Partners, who are working with a large number of casinos that are highly likely engaged in the deployment of stolen games.

    ThePOGG
     
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  18. Apr 1, 2015
  19. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

    Occupation:
    International Money Launderer
    Location:
    the bus shelter, opposite GCHQ Benhall
    OK, what we DO know is that as I said they are as bent as a 9-buck banknote.
    We know they've ripped-off software.
    We know they (claim) to be licensed by a limp-wristed banana republic LA.

    So, given that the motivation to these vermin is money, how do we deal with it?

    Criminal investigations like this need specialist teams, cross-border cooperation etc. and are quite time-consuming and often ineffective. In the time lost these asswipes have made potentially millions.

    So the best answer IMO is for Netent and the rest and also industry watchdogs and even you affiliates get onto the payment processors, card and webwallet/voucher companies - cut off their lifeblood i.e. MONEY!

    The card companies and webwallets should cooperate as it's their reputations at stake plus of course the consumer laws in most countries which protect you against debit/credit card transactions for fake or fraudulent goods/services. When they see it's potentially THEIR money at stake they would soon ban transactions to these criminals.
     
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  20. Apr 1, 2015
  21. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    The "understanding" between players and the industry that we will NOT resort to our legal rights (i.e. consumer credit laws, chargeback, etc) will mean the payment processors are unlikely to suffer any more than they do with legitimate operations. The scammers also have the ability to blacklist players who dispute transactions, just the same as legitimate operators, so even those players who realise they have been duped are strongly discouraged from hitting back. There will be no legitimate dispute channel, not even a limp one, as the sites are fake, so they will get to keep any money they make.

    They will also be able to offer rogue affiliates what it takes, such as 50% commission or more, to keep the promotion of the sites going, and these affiliates will be given the green light to do anything, including spam, hacking websites, manipulating Google, etc.

    It is also going to be hard even for the software providers who's products have been ripped off to do much about it. Legal action may not work against outright scammers as it might against companies just "trying it on".

    Seasoned players can probably be educated about this, but newbies will be like lambs to the slaughter, and will be enough on their own for the scammers to make their fortune.

    I think it will take government regulation of payment processors to make the difference. If a burden of responsibility was placed on them to thoroughly vet merchants to the same degree casinos vet players "due to anti money laundering laws" it would be far harder for the scammers to open merchant accounts with the mainstream payment processors. This will leave them with the dodgy ones, and this might make even new players wary as they would wonder why they can't simply purchase with their usual method online, but have to instead sign up for some obscure wallet or other entity that no one else seems to have heard of.
     
  22. Jul 15, 2015
  23. viru

    viru Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Affiliate Marketer
    Location:
    IN
    VULCAN PARTNERS LIMITED is fraud company

    Beware Guys, They are doing fraud with Advertisers and Affiliates.

    He posted everywhere - Get paid daily for your traffic. He never pay to any affiliate partner.

    Be careful from these fraudster.

    We want Buy All EU Traffic

    Hi we have big finacial offer for EU Market , Daily / Weekly Payments
    please feel free and conatct me ASAP

    Very Big Budget !

    Details
    Name:Maxim
    Company name:Bezpaliy
    Position:Head of Marketing
    Email:marketing@vulkanpartners.com
    Skype:casino.ramses
    Phone:+37126530435
     
  24. Jul 30, 2015
  25. viru

    viru Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Affiliate Marketer
    Location:
    IN
    Vulcan Partners Limited Scammer - Be aware from this guys

    Casino-Eurostyle.net


    There is another Guy from this company. They are running with some other name.

    Casino-Eurostyle.net

    Registrant

    Alexey Melman
    N/a
    ul. svobody, 26
    Moscow, Other 117215
    RUSSIAN FEDERATION
    Telephone: 79998884444
    Email: This email is not visible to you.
    Skype: academypokerrucom


    Name:Maxim
    Company name:Vulcan Partners Limited
    Position:Head of Marketing
    Email:marketing@npp24.ru
    Skype:casino.ramses
    Phone:+371 26530435


    They are trying to steal the money from advertisers.
    This ad posted on:

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Sale Popunders Mobile/Desktop ( Tier1 , Tier2, Tier3)

    Hi all we sale more than 20 000 000 popunders daily ( only self publishers traffic we not hide referer also ) best price for big client from 1.45 USD for Tier1 . Hurry up first :)

    us traffic is brilliant work on : Casino , Binary , Dating , Adult , Browser Games and on more other offers .

    all pops is sale only on prepay please not lose you time if you have NET terms :)

    Details
    Name:Maxim
    Company name:Vulcan Partners Limited
    Position:Head of Marketing
    Email:marketing@npp24.ru
    Skype:casino.ramses
    Phone:+371 26530435
     
  26. Dec 6, 2015
  27. slotsgeek

    slotsgeek Dormant account webby

    Occupation:
    Affiliate
    Location:
    London
    It redirects to admiralcasino, bit weird extension admiralcasino.win. So is it an affiliate?
     

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