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OMG - MG Is tight today!

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by kimss, Oct 15, 2008.

    Oct 15, 2008
  1. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    I'm just gonna complain a little, not that it matters - I just want to since this is the place to do it! I love gamble, and I have my thoughts about the system we all know that by now, however as entertainment it's still the only thing to do if you are into slot lovin, :D

    So, I tested some casinoes today. Same game system,so it doesnt matter that much. However, Dash, Red Flush and 32Red. Did some ~100 dollars in each with some promotions so say I had around 100 in extra cash aswell.

    I tried grinding it down, doing lots of spins on 0.01x1 line to try to get away from the terrible bad spells that was in all games with 1 exception - I missed 5 no worries x2 x 2. Except for that all games, just ran very dry.

    Not much entertainment really, so if you want to play slots - I guess you shouldn't do that today if you low-roll, since it is endless spins of madness!

    That International Casino Game at Red Flush had an amazing ending for me afer endless dry spins in High Life, Agent blond and Adventure Palce! I did 0.01x1 spins, and looking at all the other lines if I missed anything. It went like this, looking at wins more than 10x line (if not stated wins are on line 1).

    24 spins, freespin. 1 win, line 2 3xdice (not any valuable price)
    35 spins, 4xCoins on line 6
    31 spins, 4xA line 6
    3 spins, 4xCoins with multiplier (20 win)
    18 spins, 3xK (10 win, yeeha)
    70 spins, 3xA (20 win)
    61 spins, 3xAnchor
    14 spins, freespin, nothing
    8 spins, 4xK line 8
    27 spins, 3xDrink x2x2 line 3
    1 spin, 3xRing x2x2 line 7
    4 spins, 3xRing x2x2 line 8
    Upped to 5 lines x 5 0.02
    33 spins, freespin, nothing
    50 spins, nothing
    Broke.

    Why I even continued after that naked freespin is really annoying, atleast I am now convinced when this happends you should BAIL OUT!

    Yeehaa.. It was fun spinning the wheels, but my oh my what a lousy gameplay! Also, as soon as I started upping the bet from a line during the first 50 spins to say 5x5 or something, it always went +200 spins for a feature! And then again it never paid off!

    Strangely I got quite a few features when upping from 0.01 to sat 0.50 bet - however luck would have it that I didn't get any.

    My spinning pleasures have definately been entertained for a good while now! An expencive habbit, given I havnt had a cashout sine 5 January 2008, :D

    I totally agree with you on the spinning and lowrolling KK - you are absolutely in need of bonus if you gonna have some spin pleasure! I was however surprised at Red Flush - since I got the 50 + 200 bonus there last week and it was sucked dry in an hour. And today - 125 more... All gone on lowrolling very fast! And it's supposed to be slotmadness wednesday there aswell...

    Ok, Im done, :D
     
  2. Oct 15, 2008
  3. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self Employed
    Location:
    In the Beautiful South !!
    :eek: tight, just today, its been that way for me for a long time:eek2:......laurie
     
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  4. Oct 15, 2008
  5. Pinababy69

    Pinababy69 RIP Lisa

    Occupation:
    Crusader
    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario - Canada
    That's funny you mention No Worries as I played it myself this morning at 32Red. I cashed in $10 worth of rubies/loyalty points. And I played for going on close to five hours altogether. I did take breaks in between to do other stuff, get my daughter ready for school etc. Twice I got up to over $80 and could have cashed out, but didn't.

    The first screenie is for a 9cent bet, during the free spins. Total bonus round paid $45. Second screenie, I had upped my bet to 27cents, and hit the grey guys again for $60. I also had numerous 4 of a kinds with wild, which pay really well. And another bonus round for 18cents that paid $52. Lots of spins 200X my bet plus. Altogether, I took about 2500 spins and got around 23 free spin/bonus rounds.

    Why are my screenshots so small? Bahhhh....can't be bothered figuring it out, lol. Stupid paint..dumbest program going. That should be better.
     
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2008
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  6. Oct 15, 2008
  7. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    Infact this was the slot that I missed the five ones you got twice... And 4 came quite a few times! I wonder why this combination is so "hot" today... between you and me that's 3 times! (Usually I never see it at all!).

    I calculated my gameplay at Red Flush now, 2821 spins in total giving 73.289% payout - balance would be $375 down at the moment. I believe the others are the same, takes some time pulling the playcheck data - but once in my personal stats chewer it's all nice and tidy down to betsize!

    Maby I should do some more No Worries... hmm... Seems very hot today!
     
  8. Oct 15, 2008
  9. Pinababy69

    Pinababy69 RIP Lisa

    Occupation:
    Crusader
    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario - Canada
    This is probably the game I play the most Kimss, and it's my favourite. I am a very small depositor, and low roller...so the 9 cent minimum bet, is right up my alley. I've lost count of the number of times I've turned $10 or $20 into $100 or more. You don't have to bet huge to win a good amount. BUT...I have had sessions where I have busted out without ever seeing the free spins. I knew today would be good though as I hit the free spins on my first spin.

    I think my biggest win on it was $140 for an 18 cent bet during the free spins. I got four of the red kangaroos (including wild), at a 6X multiplier for $120 I think. I've hit five of everything on this game...including five scatters (300X bet) about four times, five of the red kangaroos, and so on. Only thing I haven't hit is five wilds, not even four....the most ever was 3.

    IMO, this is one of the best games that MG or any software has ever come out with.
     
  10. Oct 16, 2008
  11. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    This game is able to pay, I know. I remember in Dash casino, (the logs are there MG!), the feature for some reason always came after 230-260 spins. I just started 225 spins in autoplay for 1 line 0.01 and spun away. Then upped incrementaly and I would say 4/5 if not more I got the feature around 250. It was 1 time though, I got greedy - and quickly upped to $4.5 pr spin... The feature appeared at around 550 I recall, It cost me $800 or something. The feature gave nothing aswell! (OBVIOOOUUUUUUS).

    This slot is the one I have the lowest payout due to exploring the pattern that was so obvious - atleast in my account. Again - MG may look at my details, they are all there!

    I never got 5 of anything, expept 9s and 10s, I have missed 5 birds and 5 No Worries 1 time (1 today).

    Well, I went back with another deposit $50 more, low-rolling at Red Flush. Worries wasn't any better, however managed to get the feature at 9x8 with 25 spins! Got 6x multiplier and $12 bucks, respun and got 4x multiplier and $10 bucks! Yey!

    My final stats, a little better than the previous 73,28% payout:
    Cash flow : $-62.50
    Payout 78.439%
    Total wagered : $289.87
    Total win : $227.37
    Total spins : 983
    Games played: 12

    So I guess no reason to wager more there today!
    My complete stat for Red Flush this week would then be, accumulated from all the spins in 21 different slots:

    Cash flow : $-435.50
    Payout 74.258%
    Total wagered : $1691.79
    Total win : $1256.29
    Total spins : 3804

    With the exception of 1 $50 deposit where I was upto almost $60... I never went above the current deposit in balance! What a joy it was, :D
     
  12. Oct 16, 2008
  13. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    It almost seem like the MG payout is %75 percent. I just accumulated the stats for the past week at one of the other casinoes. It looks like this:

    Cash flow : $-364
    Payout 84.674%
    Total wagered : $2374.25
    Total win : $2010.38
    Total spins : 3502
    Games played: 14

    However, I had an incredible win at Sir Winsalot of $232.35 on $1 bet (20x5). If I remove this spin and reacumulate I get 74,92% payout for the remaining 3501 spins.

    Had I gotten 1 more of theese hits, I would have had 94,421% payout. That would be sweet! The win $232.35 is spin 1536 of the 3502.

    Had I stopped wagering at that spin, I would have had 107,455% payout (giving me $50 bucks in earnings, so you see why I didn't stop).

    The remaining 1970 spins, wagereed on 13 slots, after the win has 74.705% payout. Again - this magick 75% payout! Seems like a base payout to me! I remember this from earlier aswell, that's why I for some reason got stuck on that number again and just had to write this comment...

    Can you really blame me... :)

    Here is more stats.

    The 475 Spins before the $232.35 win on $1:
    Cash flow : $-2.50
    Payout 98.792%
    Total wagered : $206.93
    Total win : $204.43
    Total spins : 475

    The 359 spins right after the same win:
    Cash flow : $-117.54
    Payout 83.857%
    Total wagered : $728.11
    Total win : $610.57
    Total spins : 359

    And yes, I was already upping up. Below you see the accual spins, wagers and wins. Look what happends at the spins from $3 and higher... If I were to spend an afternoon preparing screenshots of the different sessions and wager size you would be amazed!

    Anyway - Now I'm broke so I might aswell go to bed. I love true randomness!
     
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  14. Oct 16, 2008
  15. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    Hehe, Since I am all about transparence, did accumulate the stats from the third casino. This was a lower deposit.

    Cash flow : €-56.00
    Payout 55.594%
    Total wagered : €126.11
    Total win : €70.11
    Total spins : 270
    Games played: 5

    Yikes!

    There you have my week of luck people!

    Oh by the way, if any of you need help with making readable statistics from your pleycheck data PM me I can do it for you, but you will need to give me the data - or you can use my Playcheck analyzer - however you need to format the data correctly! You can upload data files upto 20mb for analyzing.
    You find it here, You must register/login in order to see the link..

    Nighty!
     
  16. Oct 16, 2008
  17. Pinababy69

    Pinababy69 RIP Lisa

    Occupation:
    Crusader
    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario - Canada
    LOL Kimss, I may take you up on that offer. I do sometimes wonder what my payout percentages are, over time. But considering that I am so close to even (over years of play) at almost every casino I still play at...I figure it has to be near the advertised payouts. But that is mostly due to a few very large wins (none recently of course), and the fact that I have finally learned how to manage my money, and to recycle it when I can.

    Thanks again for the offer. :thumbsup:
     
  18. Oct 16, 2008
  19. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    Please do, it's all in our own interest anyway! By the way, remember that the playcheck data is removed after some days depending on the casino. Some you can go months back in time, and some only 10 days. I recommend having a "routine" that after finnishing playing the session(s) for the day, enter playcheck and pull down the data!

    Keep different .txt files for the different casinos so that you have complete account history. You can then analyze them be uploading them as a whole, parts of it, last session, last 1000 spins whatever you like. It is really a powerful tool to have when playing as it gives you a complete oversight.
     
  20. Oct 16, 2008
  21. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Do you have some quick shortcut way of doing that?
    I find it a real PIA because the only way I know is to cut & paste the data one page at a time (50 spins?) into Excel and then re-format it.
    Takes bleedin ages and comes a long second behind a trip to the dentists! :mad:

    That is another great advantage of recording things as I go along - I already have all the data there at the end of my session & can analyse it in just a few minutes!

    KK
     
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  22. Oct 16, 2008
  23. Pinababy69

    Pinababy69 RIP Lisa

    Occupation:
    Crusader
    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario - Canada
    Exactly KK...I played last night, and while I have rough figures of spins, features, etc. I'd like to access the Playcheck data, and send it to Kimss. But like you, I can't be bothered copying and pasting 50 pages, one at a time.
     
  24. Oct 16, 2008
  25. lauram

    lauram Dormant account

    Occupation:
    self employed
    Location:
    toronto
    I had just made a rtg post about being tight and thought hmm i played past week a lot at mg. Now last month i couldnt do anything wrong. This past few deposits look out free spins all over the place but cant even get back my bet money. On loaded game free spins 7 times twice i got the scatter money only and at best 3 symbols. Never played online during xmas time do they give out bonus money maybe this is why so tight play they have to save up to give out like us players do.
     
  26. Oct 16, 2008
  27. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    What you do KK is let me do the formatting for you since I already did it... You do have to do 50 at a time, but paste into notepad so you get it line by line. I could easily write a quick script that will export the whole to excel for you if you like. The good part with having line by line is that you can also take advantage of my payout calculator at the same time, which I guess saves you all the excel work.

    The reason I say do it atleast every other day or so, is that if you play much and forget to pull the data say in 10 days - you quickly end up sitting there for 30 minutes cut'n'paste... However, it's the only way at the moment.
     
  28. Oct 16, 2008
  29. Pinababy69

    Pinababy69 RIP Lisa

    Occupation:
    Crusader
    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario - Canada
    I don't have Excel Kimss....and wouldn't understand it if I did, lol. No math wiz here.

    But I can just copy and paste to notepad then? And I would be able to (for example) email you the file as an attachment?
     
  30. Oct 16, 2008
  31. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    Yes, notepad works fine as it strips away the HTML of the paste. Whatever you do the result in the file should look something like:
    Code:
    127298  View  10/10/2008 1:18:06 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127299  View  10/10/2008 1:18:11 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127300  View  10/10/2008 1:18:16 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127301  View  10/10/2008 1:18:20 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127302  View  10/10/2008 1:18:25 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127303  View  10/10/2008 1:18:30 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127304  View  10/10/2008 1:18:35 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127305  View  10/10/2008 1:18:39 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127306  View  10/10/2008 1:18:44 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127307  View  10/10/2008 1:18:48 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127308  View  10/10/2008 1:18:53 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127309  View  10/10/2008 1:18:57 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    
    making each spin have a line. You can also append sessions or comments in your file, just start the line with a # and it will be ignored


    Code:
    127310  View  10/10/2008 1:19:02 AM Hitman $3.00 $2.00 
    127311  View  10/10/2008 1:19:07 AM Hitman $3.00 $7.20 
    # Yey! $9 win in 14 spins! Why do I even bother! ;D
    127312  View  10/10/2008 1:19:13 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127313  View  10/10/2008 1:19:18 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127314  View  10/10/2008 1:19:23 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127315  View  10/10/2008 1:19:30 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127316  View  10/10/2008 1:19:35 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.80 
    127317  View  10/10/2008 1:19:40 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127318  View  10/10/2008 1:19:45 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127319  View  10/10/2008 1:19:50 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127320  View  10/10/2008 1:19:54 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127321  View  10/10/2008 1:19:59 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127322  View  10/10/2008 1:20:03 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127323  View  10/10/2008 1:20:08 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127324  View  10/10/2008 1:20:13 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    127325  View  10/10/2008 1:20:18 AM Hitman $3.00 $0.00 
    
    I made an online tool where you can create the stats yourself, just upload your file and get the results at instantly! I have no clue who you are so the stats are of now use to me!

    Check out this thread for the link:
    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/online-casinos/11807-playcheck-stats-generator.html

    Should you get into problems with the results, due to your format of your file, give me a nudge and I will update my tool so that it works nicely for you!

    Edit: I added the breakdown for the hitman adventure. Look at how $3 wagering, beautiful! had a win at $2.25 as shown, surely this is heavily penalized afterwords!
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2008
  32. Oct 17, 2008
  33. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    As my statistics professor always said:


    (paraphrased)
    You can construe the data any way you wish to suit your needs.

    Come back to us once you have thousands of these "penalized" patterns, then we'll talk.
     
  34. Oct 17, 2008
  35. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    Oh yes I am very well aware of this my man, however it's a typical scenario! Maby I'll find the times in the next weeks and dig into the old stats from previous years, atleast we get some 250.000 spins into the mix then!
     
  36. Oct 17, 2008
  37. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Bring it on. :)


    250k is still kinda light...
     
  38. Oct 17, 2008
  39. Alexishot69

    Alexishot69 Banned User

    Occupation:
    computing
    Location:
    Edinburgh
    dunno

    bout tight but just done 72 at 32red in less than 2 hrs playing 20p spins...it just continues to get tighter and tighter..max win was 4.60 just cant believe they are paying anywhere near 90+ % never in a billion years.....geee
     

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