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Oliver Curran says that if you read read this forum, he does not want your business

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by chucho, Jan 11, 2004.

    Jan 11, 2004
  1. chucho

    chucho Bonus Pimp

    My friend wrote Crystal Place asking about their being put on Casinomeisters rouge list. Below is a copy of the letter he received from Oliver Curran.

    Dear Chris,

    Thank you for contacting Crystal Palace.

    Crystal Palace is an operation that has existed now for quite some time in a very competitive business environment. If we were to avoid paying our legitimate players, as the Casino Meister suggests, then we simply would not be able to survive. The fact is that legitimate players at Crystal Palace are paid extremely promptly.

    If you intend to join Crystal Palace to abuse our promotions, then my suggestion would be that you play elsewhere. The fact that you even read the Casino Meister forum indicates to me that, like the majority of people who read that site, you are not the caliber of player we are interested in having as a member.

    If however you are a legitimate player who enjoys gambling regularly, then you can be assured we will provide you with many free comps on a regular basis and will pay you out when you win as fast as, if not faster than, any other online casino.

    If you have any further questions regarding our site, then please feel free to contact me again.

    Yours sincerely
    Oliver Curran
    Customer Relations Manager
    Crystal Palace Casino
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    (Toll Free USA): 1-800-824-3175
     
  2. Jan 11, 2004
  3. caruso

    caruso Banned User - repetitive violations of 1.6 - troll

    Occupation:
    Casino apologist
    Location:
    England
    Warren Cloud - aka Richard Brooks, Donald Fortune, etc etc.
     
  4. Jan 11, 2004
  5. lanidar

    lanidar Dormant account

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    Avenel, New Jersey
    I didn't know Oliver "SCUMBAG" Curran also had an aka Richard Brooks :what:

    I gotta remember that for some on my "FRIENDLY" posts about him.

    [​IMG]
     
  6. Jan 11, 2004
  7. love2vegas

    love2vegas Dormant account

    Location:
    Maine
    Oliver Curran, AKA Richard Brooks AKA Don Fortune AKA MR X AKA???
    is unbelievable! I think what is most scary, is that the guy apparently can't even read! Here is what he says in his response above:

    If we were to avoid paying our legitimate players, as the Casino Meister suggests, then we simply would not be able to survive.

    HERE IS WHAT THE CASINO MEISTER SAYS:

    But don't get me wrong, this casino group will pay legitimate winnings, so I've been assured. But if you play merely the promotions, be prepared to be drug out into the cyber street and left in a ditch.

    Then, to go on and say this:
    The fact that you even read the Casino Meister forum indicates to me that, like the majority of people who read that site, you are not the caliber of player we are interested in having as a member.

    Shows what a truly ignorant man(?) this person is. The translation to what he is saying would be something like this:

    "The fact that you even attempt to keep yourself educated on issues of casino abuse and fraud tells me that you're not someone we want for a customer."

    :lolup: What a moron! But, hey- maybe this is the closest thing to an honest statement that this idiot has made in quite some time! Crystal Palace should be extremely proud to have such a front man for their casino! Tells you what type of people run this one, huh???!
     
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  8. Jan 11, 2004
  9. love2vegas

    love2vegas Dormant account

    Location:
    Maine
    OOPS- SORRY, meant to say OLIVER CURRAN. Got carried away with my AKA'S!
     
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  10. Jan 11, 2004
  11. lanidar

    lanidar Dormant account

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    Avenel, New Jersey
    love2vegas ...I wholeheartedly AGREE...The man IS a MORON.[​IMG]
     
  12. Jan 11, 2004
  13. bradleyt

    bradleyt Dormant account

    "we only want losers" is what his e-mail can be summed up to.
     
  14. Jan 12, 2004
  15. love2vegas

    love2vegas Dormant account

    Location:
    Maine
    Well, I guess losers like to have more losers!
     
  16. Jan 12, 2004
  17. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Open mouth - insert foot.

    Like I mentioned in the "not recommended" section, I have been assured he will pay legitimate winnings. This is not merely from his word (which I generally don't accept as a precaution due to his past history), but by RTG. Warren is walking on thin ice at the moment and he knows it. It could take perhaps one case of a player being stiffed at his casinos to get his plug yanked. I've mentioned this before.

    Warren knows that it could take one phone call--and he's history.

    Most players who have problems at his casinos have run into these problems via bonuses; they get fingered as a "beater" and are tossed out. Most managers have certain policies concerning bonus abuse and are quick to ban these players, BUT these sort of policies are abused at many casinos in the manager's favor. It seems that this is the case at Warren Cloud's casinos.

    I give him credit for answering a number of complaints that were lodged via Casinomeister's "Pitch a Bitch"; some actually were resolved in the player's favor, but the majority were deemed "beaters". There are two that he has refused to answer. I'm still collecting more information on these before it may be necessary to place him in full-blown "rogue" status.

    As for Oliver's comment "The fact that you even read the Casino Meister forum indicates to me that, like the majority of people who read that site, you are not the caliber of player we are interested in having as a member." is another ill-thought out comment that will surely backfire on him. Besides players from all walks of life, the people who "read" this site include software provider CEOs, casino operators, managers, the press, and other significant industry persons. This site's primary function is to bring people the news and information about casino operations good and bad. It's a shame that the individuals behind Crystal Palace just don't get this.
     
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  18. Jan 12, 2004
  19. lanidar

    lanidar Dormant account

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    Avenel, New Jersey
    Hi Bryan,
    What can we do to get this "one phone call" made so that we can go back to playing in these casinos without worry?
     
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  20. Jan 12, 2004
  21. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    It needs to be a clear cut case of a non-payment with no chance of the casino to dance around any vague rules of promo-abuse or whatever. As soon as a "promo" or "bonus" enters the equation, the upperhand belongs to the casino.

    I believe Warren is too slick to allow this to occur. Since he knows once this happens he's out of a job.
     
  22. Jan 12, 2004
  23. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    He would probably just pick another alias, another software provider and a new casino and would carry on abusing the playing public. Look at his past history...

    Rated Player (Innoco) failed Warren Cloud

    Casino Extreme, Heat et al (RTG) Richard Brooks, Mr X. *Removed*.

    Crystal Palace et al (RTG) Don Fortune, Oliver C.....TVS....

    ?? What next?
     
  24. Jan 14, 2004
  25. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Well, it looks like I have upset Warren a little bit. He emailed me a number of times yesterday refuting some of the things I have said. I stand my ground, but I did make one comment I wish to retract:
    He mentioned in an email:
    So I will take this opportunity to rephrase this:

    "It will take more than one call reporting fraudulent casino activity to RTG, it will take a million calls. (US) 404-459-4263"

    Anyway, he has also accused me of being Chucho's friend Chris stating: Also quite frankly that menial attempt emailing Oliver from a dummy account to get attention to the matter that you have blacklisted us I dont blame him for his response.

    Which I responded to: This indicates to me that you or "Oliver" routinely lie as part of your business. You know I didn't send you any emails except the ones from my Casinomeister account. There is no reason why I would need to bring attention to any rogue listing except through my own resources; newsletter, webcast, hard print articles, and forum members.

    Today's webcast should be up within the hour.
     
  26. Jan 14, 2004
  27. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
  28. Feb 14, 2008
  29. dropdead1

    dropdead1 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self-employed
    Location:
    South Africa
    GUESS WHO IS ALIVE AND WELL & OPERATING IN SA

    Ok so I know this is an old thread but check this out!

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  30. Feb 14, 2008
  31. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

    Occupation:
    al Hazard
    Location:
    Location, Location!
    That's some impressive thread necro-ing! :)
     
  32. Feb 14, 2008
  33. mush

    mush Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    gambler
    Location:
    not where i want to be
    does anyone else find the fact that he is commenting on things he read on this forum insanely hilarious based on this comment from his email - "The fact that you even read the Casino Meister forum indicates to me that, like the majority of people who read that site, you are not the caliber of player we are interested in having as a member." LOL

    it looks like they just want them as employees, not members......
     
  34. Feb 14, 2008
  35. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania

    If that were the case, then they would actually pay people that followed their T&C to the letter, instead of claiming the FU clause for the sole reason that they won too much. ;)
     
  36. Feb 15, 2008
  37. same_old

    same_old Dormant account PABaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    12th man
    Location:
    Australia
    Hi Bryan,

    So when you go to the ICE-meeting's etc, have you ever come across Oliver or any other casino manager's from the rouged casino's ?... if so how do the conversations go??.

    Do you go with a list of customer complaints and lug them on his lap????..
    I bet this is where the real conversations take place....
     
  38. Feb 15, 2008
  39. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    EXECUTIVE
    Location:
    SOMEWHERE IN ASIA
    caliber of player = kind of idiot.
     

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