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old chicago casino ?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by zebedy, Sep 17, 2008.

    Sep 17, 2008
  1. zebedy

    zebedy No!!!! Im Spartacus MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    brain stergeon
    Location:
    Up a Tree
    does anybody know anything about a casino called old chicago casino only i received an email from them stating it was there grand opening and they they had a $7nd bonus,
    i think they are new ,they are microgaming i found this on there about us page,


    only when i try to download i get the message
    when i read that alarm bells started ringing, so was just wondering if its another scam
     
  2. Sep 17, 2008
  3. SELVY1

    SELVY1 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    accountant
    Location:
    rome - italy
    I played this casino and I didn't have your problem (maybe because I'm rom Italy?)

    by the way I don't reccomend it because I had to ask for my welcome bonus several times sending emails (never happend before in a MG casino!!)...

    PS moneys lost in a short time.. :D


    ciao
     
  4. Sep 17, 2008
  5. LOOKAWAY

    LOOKAWAY Senior Wember PABnonaccred

    Location:
    England
    Hi zebedy its probably from the same group as rome casino and many more offering $7 nd upon signing up.

    Most off these no deposit bonuses cant be withdrawn from these casinos.
     
    1 person likes this.
  6. Sep 17, 2008
  7. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    1 person likes this.
  8. Sep 18, 2008
  9. WEBBET LTD

    WEBBET LTD Dormant account

    Occupation:
    iGaming representative
    Location:
    Malta
    Hi all,

    Frank from Webbet LTD and Old Chicago Casino here, glad to see you have all spotted us already!

    Having made my presence known over in 'Introduce Yourself' i just wanted to stop by here also and see if there is anything I can help clear up for you?

    Just let me know if you have any questions Meister Members!

    Frank :)
     
    1 person likes this.
  10. Sep 18, 2008
  11. aka23

    aka23 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Technical
    Location:
    Planet Earth
    I noticed your T&C matches sections of the MiniVegas T&C word-for-word. Your bonus weightings also match MiniVegas' unique weightings. Are you connected with that group?
     
  12. Sep 18, 2008
  13. c_note

    c_note Senior Member

    Occupation:
    dividing by zero
    Location:
    divide by zero
    Old Chicago & Minivegas

    Aka23, yep, Same people/assocations.

    Different companies though 'cos Old Chicago is Malta Licensed, the rest are in Kahnawake.

    Compare the home page of Old Chigaco to Grand Hotel :D
    Then compare the italian notes in the source of both home pages. And file names used on the site, naming conventions, and if you get bored, email them both, and check the mail headers in the reply..
    Site is also hosted on the same netblock as most of the Minivegas group..


    back to my hole again..
     
  14. Sep 18, 2008
  15. Alexishot69

    Alexishot69 Banned User

    Occupation:
    computing
    Location:
    Edinburgh
    Hi there

    Hi frank
    im presuming that your company that runs webbet ltd also runs the website webbet.com ???? the site where no links work and after a little searching find that its related to betonsports,worldsportsbook and several other websites and is infact based here>>Costa Rica - Radigrafica Costarricense ???
     
  16. Sep 18, 2008
  17. c_note

    c_note Senior Member

    Occupation:
    dividing by zero
    Location:
    divide by zero
    Webbet.com

    Jumping in before Frank

    Webbet Ltd has nothing to do with webbet.com

    webbet Ltd is a malta registired company, Licensed in Malta, using Microgaming software.

    webbet.com is a CR based operation, uses iNet software.

    back to my hole
     
  18. Sep 18, 2008
  19. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    It was an unfortunate choice of name then, the worst thing for a new casino is to have the same name as a rogue operator. A "Ltd" company would be expected to be the source of an URL bearing it's company name<dot>com, so if there is a site named webbet<dot>com, and a new company pops up called Webbet Ltd, players are bound to ask questions about an association.

    Links to MiniVegas have been mentioned, although I have just had a look and it isn't obvious to me. Many similarities in terms are coincidence, as I am sure there are some default suggestions that come with any MG casino, such as the MG bonus system rules. MiniVegas tend to mix promotions between the bonus system and with alternative rules, not something I can see with Old Chicago, where the SUB rules are nothing like the MiniVegas rules for the SUB, which usually runs outside the MG bonus system.

    Simply having a 100% SUB under "promotions" is a little boring (except perhaps for bonus whores:rolleyes:), and gives no indication of what regular players are likely to see running. The loyalty system is not "unique", it's bog standard MG - 1 point per 10 credits wagered, and 1000 points for 10 cashback (which is BONUS, not real cash).
    Other MG casinos have moved away from this, and use tiered systems that reward regular players more the more they play. No mention of a VIP scheme either.
     
  20. Sep 18, 2008
  21. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    Manchester UK
    My question is why are the banking options so limited?
    Also you accept Moneybookers deposits but they are not a cashout option :confused:
     
  22. Sep 19, 2008
  23. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    I have expanded upon this in introductions. Their banking pages are a mess:confused:

    If you read them, and click through to "withdrawals", you would see Moneybookers mentioned, yet presumably you have reliable evidence to the contrary;)

    I have also found the rules for credit card withdrawals somewhat confusing, depending on where you read, credit card withdrawals vary from "unavailable" to "mandatory" - you could hardly have a WIDER difference of opinion, could you:confused:
     
  24. Sep 19, 2008
  25. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    Manchester UK
    Ahh the website has been updated since last Week, then there were only 3 withdrawal options listed.
    Either that or I am mixing this site up with another one but I think I am right as I decided not to try because of no MB withdrawals.
     
  26. Sep 19, 2008
  27. player-72

    player-72 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    gambler
    Location:
    europe
    old

    If they are liked to Mini Vegas,probably there is no neteller withdrawals,because Mini Vegas not paying back to neteller(my own experience).
     
  28. Sep 19, 2008
  29. WEBBET LTD

    WEBBET LTD Dormant account

    Occupation:
    iGaming representative
    Location:
    Malta
    Hi all,

    Yes indeed Rusty, our banking section has been updated since that time, and before it did appear to be far more limited.

    As mentioned, Vinylweatherman has made some succinct, valid observations on our thread in 'Introduce Yourself' which are currently under review so please expect changes soon!

    Similarly if any other members have considerations for us regarding our website, please just let me know and I will deal with them/pass them on if required.
    All greatly appreciated!

    Also, thanks for beating me to it there C_note, appreciate your helpful answer :)
    C_note is correct - we are not in any way related to Webbet.com, nor Mini Vegas. We are a wholly independent company and entirely separate from either of them.

    Thanks for the comments

    Frank :)
    Webbet LTD
     
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  30. Sep 19, 2008
  31. aka23

    aka23 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Technical
    Location:
    Planet Earth
    C_note noted some interesting similarities between MiniVegas and OldChicago. Similarities include:

    1. The source code for the Old Chicago home page is remarkably similar to the source code for Grand Hotel (part of MiniVegas). It looks like the code was cut and pasted, as a template, then the relevant names were changed. It even contains identical programmer's comments in Italian. For example, after the last div the programmer writes "Chiude container generale" (means closes general container).

    2. Old Chicago is IP address 209.47.15.230 . The MiniVegas group is in the same IP address block at 209.47.15.235+

    3. Emails headers from old Chicago match email headers from the MiniVegas group.

    4. Portions of the T&C used by Old Chicago match word-for-word with the MiniVegas group. A Google search does not show any other MG casinos using these phrases, only Old Chicago and MiniVegas.

    5. Grand Hotel uses unique game weightings for their bonus, including 10% weightings on BJ, VP, and roulette. I believe only one other MG group uses these weightings -- MiniVegas.

    Are you sure that there is no connection to MiniVegas? Perhaps some resources are shared between the two groups, but they are operated fully independently?
     
    4 people like this.
  32. Sep 19, 2008
  33. suzy1975

    suzy1975 Banned User PABnononaccred2 PABnoaccred

    Occupation:
    cleaner
    Location:
    glasgow
    the casino is actually okay as casinos go but there is no phone number and no livechat leaving you to wait on emails
     
  34. Sep 19, 2008
  35. suzy1975

    suzy1975 Banned User PABnononaccred2 PABnoaccred

    Occupation:
    cleaner
    Location:
    glasgow
    free 7 pounds and the chances of winning

    i was awarded 7 pounds and initially did quite well with my gaming but after an hour of play just when i was eligible to withdraw i had another 7 pounds "mistakenly" credited therefore doubling my wager requirement and of course no phone number to contact them and i had to wait on an email getting to them and when this happened it took 3 emails to even get any sort of sense, i have been told they are looking at it now and will get back to me so watch this space and ill let you know
     
    1 person likes this.
  36. Oct 20, 2008
  37. Bryan

    Bryan Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Italy
    I requested a cashout yestarday and contacted the manger to know if i can withdraw through MB...i'm waiting a response yet.
     
  38. Oct 21, 2008
  39. Bryan

    Bryan Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Italy
    I received a response from the manager where he declair that ist possible to use MB to withdraw becasue this method in unavailable to Italy and he told me to choose another method between credit card, neteller, click2pay, cheque, wire transfer and ecocard...i asked to process the cashout before in my credi card and if isn't possible to use click2pay...stay tuned :cool:
     

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