Announcement Fake NetEnt Southpark/Aliens slots at 21Bet

[colinsunderland]

Yes, it seems they act OK with their UK site and defraud the .com players. If you look, the only happy punters are UK ones, and Nicola.

Even askgrumblers don't want anything to do with them

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probably didn't get paid

 

[dunover]

Right, I've removed them bar Mintbet and Quinnbet who only take UK/Ireland players and as far as I know don't have a separate .com operation. If anyone knows different from an EU IP let me know and they're going too.

 

[dunover]

Even askgrumblers don't want anything to do with them

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probably didn't get paid

Fuck-me, they must be shit then!

 

[Nicola]

The rogue domain slotomatic.net is very complex. It hosts hundreds of NetEnt titles, HTML5 Novomatic slots and has a random number generator connected on a seperate IP range.

The server has been running since 2012 in the United States and last year took on CloudFlare technologies which I have never seen on a legit game server. They have also chosen recently to hide their identity on both IP and WHOIS results. Back in 2012 it was registered to a individual at a residential street address.

Despite extensive lookups, probing and IP checks the UK site is completly different than the .com which is managed by a LTD company with a Curaco license. The post above saying the chat agent is the same of course raises concerns.

 

[colinsunderland]

The post above saying the chat agent is the same of course raises concerns.

More telling is the email address the UK support told me to use was 21bet.com

 

[Nicola]

Even askgrumblers don't want anything to do with them

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probably didn't get paid

AskGamblers relationship was terminated in 2015, which was 30 months before the UK site launched.

 

[dunover]

Where is this supposed to be going? We know there are bent servers and games that supply several equally bent sites; here the issue is denial of association. You get the 'respectable' face of the business which to all intents and purposes provides, up to a point, superficial provenance and the main feeder business outside the reach of any recognized and effective authority. Think the Mafia's showcase restaurant with top chefs and a great location, and then of the numerous back street scam shops and broken legs that enabled it.

Now you know how it appeared, would you eat there?

 

[dunover]

AskGamblers relationship was terminated in 2015, which was 30 months before the UK site launched.

Which proves there is no association .com and .co.uk how?

 

[goatwack]

Why are Netent themself not suing the pants off sites hosting pirated games under their name?

 

[dunover]

Why are Netent themself not suing the pants off sites hosting pirated games under their name?

Try suing a front company, shills and bogus mail drop addresses.

 

[Nicola]

Which proves there is no association .com and .co.uk how?

Well I've e-mailed the CEO, affiliate manager and admin of the gaming platform to reply to this thread. It's up to them to explain the connections and why games are running from that server.

If they refuse to answer the important questions like Freaky Vegas did on the other thread, then no doubt Bryan will bring out the rogue hammer again.

 

[dunover]

Well I've e-mailed the CEO, affiliate manager and admin of the gaming platform to reply to this thread. It's up to them to explain the connections and why games are running from that server.

If they refuse to answer the important questions like Freaky Vegas did on the other thread, then no doubt Bryan will bring out the rogue hammer again.

Well good luck with the e-mails, as I'm really sure a group of scammers hosting bent slots will be open and honest with you. That much is already beyond doubt. Perhaps you'd be better off reporting this fact to your mates at the MGA as the .com site claims to be licensed there too.

As for here, Bryan would check this out and assess the answers himself before acting rather than take the word of third parties like us.

But ultimately there has to be some kind of action. Fake slots are inexcusable.

 

[colinsunderland]

Well I've e-mailed the CEO, affiliate manager and admin of the gaming platform to reply to this thread. It's up to them to explain the connections and why games are running from that server.

If they refuse to answer the important questions like Freaky Vegas did on the other thread, then no doubt Bryan will bring out the rogue hammer again.

Support on the UK site gave the .com email address to use, and the same agent was on both the UK and .com site. The games are pirate on the .com site, thats a fact. Don't see what anyone from the company can say to explain any of those facts.
They are dodgy as anything and people should avoid them.

 

[Nicola]

Perhaps you'd be better off reporting this fact to your mates at the MGA as the .com site claims to be licensed there too.

I have no "friends" at the MGA and thats the very reason I left Malta for the UK after two of my work colleagues were murdered due to the corruption in this industry at that time in the country.

But ultimately there has to be some kind of action. Fake slots are inexcusable.

Absolutely and thats why I spend 6-12 hours a week searching for fake gaming servers and reporting them to the developers. No excuses on this one

 

[dunover]

I have no "friends" at the MGA and thats the very reason I left Malta for the UK after two of my work colleagues were murdered due to the corruption in this industry at that time in the country.



Absolutely and thats why I spend 6-12 hours a week searching for fake gaming servers and reporting them to the developers. No excuses on this one

Where? In Malta? Can only find that journalist's case in recent times, but did find this, just the sort of aff manager you want, even AffEdge would be proud of him!

Wondering where your Betsson whales went?

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[4048]

Easy mistake to make but the askgamblers thread seems to be about 21Bets.com which is a different site.

I brought this to dunovers attention a while back after finding what I thought was irregular novomatic games.

Yesterday when I noticed old DOA with # as currency and 45# max bet, Aliens and South Park, I brought it up again.
Happy to see something being done.

 

[dunover]

Easy mistake to make but the askgamblers thread seems to be about 21Bets.com which is a different site.

I brought this to dunovers attention a while back after finding what I thought was irregular novomatic games.

Yesterday when I noticed old DOA with # as currency and 45# max bet, Aliens and South Park, I brought it up again.
Happy to see something being done.

Yes - it's beyond reasonable doubt that the two sites are inextricably linked, sharing the same e-mail addresses etc. if not the license for .co.uk (playing by the book) and the .com sites, as Colin has confirmed. The .com version is RAF (Rogue as F***) and supplies bent slots as indeed you pointed out correctly.

 

[Nate]

Where? In Malta? Can only find that journalist's case in recent times, but did find this, just the sort of aff manager you want, even AffEdge would be proud of him!

Wondering where your Betsson whales went?

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That mucker was my affiliate manager. Is it coincidence that my BIG players also disappeared during this period?

Nate

 

[ThePOGG]

Ok - I've contacted the MGA and NetEnt to see if we can get some direct conformation of this issue.

If this is confirmed - which seems very likely - we'll be Blacklisting both 21Bet sites.

With regard to FSB Technologies - I don't see grounds to extend this issue to their other brands. FSB are a white label platform. 21Bet.co.uk are a white label running on this platform. 21Bet.com, whether owned directly by the same people (which would seem likely) or simply franchising out the brand so someone else to run outside of the UK are - if this proves to be true - working with people engaged in defrauding players. As FSB haven't provided these games themselves and there's no indication that they have any ownership control or decision making powers over the 21Bet.com brand, there doesn't appear to be much is the way of culpability on their part.

What does not help FSB's cause right now is that is two of their clients in short succession with very serious issues.

TP

 

[Harry_BKK]

EoL list from Netent (End of Life)

Southpark & Aliens

 

[ThePOGG]

I've received a response from NetEnt and can confirm that the games are non-genuine.

TP

 

[Tengil]

And people still think that a license from the banana republic called Malta has any weight/significance? The dirt that this so called regulator (money collector) has on its hands is so massive that you would have to hire quite a few novelists to write it down.

 

[4048]

And people still think that a license from the banana republic called Malta has any weight/significance? The dirt that this so called regulator (money collector) has on its hands is so massive that you would have to hire quite a few novelists to write it down.

Compared to curacao, a maltese license is gold.

21Bet however, has a MGA license for sportsbetting, and a license worth less than the dirt under your shoes for their games.

I have history, and a vengeance, with 21Bet and will with a good conscience give dirt on them if asked,

 

[Harry_BKK]

Compared to curacao, a maltese license is gold.

21Bet however, has a MGA license for sportsbetting, and a license worth less than the dirt under your shoes for their games.

I have history, and a vengeance, with 21Bet and will with a good conscience give dirt on them if asked,

And people still think that a license from the banana republic called Malta has any weight/significance? The dirt that this so called regulator (money collector) has on its hands is so massive that you would have to hire quite a few novelists to write it down.

That is the problem with many casinos. I said it a few times that the MGA logo is very often misleading as it does not mean that the entire site runs under the MGA license. A single item from the entire casino/sportsbook running under the MGA allows an operator to display the trust-building MGA logo and the rest can all be under whatever they like, can be Curacao, Costa Rica or anything else.

Most players will see the MGA logo and think....."oh, I'm safe to sign up".....and when it comes to a complaint they find out that their gaming didn't fall under the MGA license. Very misleading, to say the least.

I was reviewing a casino just two weeks ago and they had 2 games, in clear words TWO, from one provider on their entire site which were running under an MGA license and the whole rest of over 2,000 games and sports were all under Curacao apparently. Upon researching in more detail, they didn't even have the Curacao license. But the MGA logo was shining bright and big on the bottom of the site. In essence, that site was running with no license at all but misled the players with the MGA logo. Only when I highlighted the issue, did they hastily remove the MGA logo.

Now, which potential new player investigates a casino as thoroughly as I do because I take my duty to write a truthful review serious? The aff, I wrote the review for, blacklisted them but as usual, the outfit scores 8 stars on AG, a complete disgrace.

 

[Betreels Casino & Sports]

It's pretty much a given that when you see these Movie / TV titles still available, then it's pirated software.