Not a bad beat, just a stupid move

catrina m

Senior Member
PABaccred
I was trying to get deep in this $2 tourney when I got a little antsy. After 3 hours of playing it gets tedious. It sent the winner up to second place


PokerStars Game #22282160151: Tournament #120443442, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (600/1200) - 2008/11/22 23:43:49 ET
Table '120443442 51' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Peekiboo81 (30928 in chips)
Seat 2: Shep73 (5910 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: BobnoC (22610 in chips)
Seat 4: TanningGirl (17446 in chips)
Seat 5: muddman58 (1680 in chips)
Seat 6: MakeNcents_ (61420 in chips)
Seat 7: bigaofpa (18395 in chips)
Seat 8: njm4751 (88232 in chips)
Seat 9: catrinamel (37099 in chips)
Peekiboo81: posts the ante 125
Shep73: posts the ante 125
BobnoC: posts the ante 125
TanningGirl: posts the ante 125
muddman58: posts the ante 125
MakeNcents_: posts the ante 125
bigaofpa: posts the ante 125
njm4751: posts the ante 125
catrinamel: posts the ante 125
catrinamel: posts small blind 600
Peekiboo81: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to catrinamel [Jc Jh]
Shep73: folds
BobnoC: folds
TanningGirl: folds
muddman58: raises 355 to 1555 and is all-in
MakeNcents_: folds
bigaofpa: folds
njm4751: raises 2045 to 3600
catrinamel: calls 3000
Peekiboo81: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ts 3d 9s]
catrinamel: checks
njm4751: bets 11200
catrinamel: raises 22174 to 33374 and is all-in
njm4751: calls 22174
*** TURN *** [Ts 3d 9s] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [Ts 3d 9s 2h] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
catrinamel: shows [Jc Jh] (a pair of Jacks)
njm4751: shows [9c 9h] (three of a kind, Nines)
njm4751 collected 70838 from side pot
muddman58: shows [As 3s] (a pair of Threes)
njm4751 collected 6990 from main pot
narkus21 is connected
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 77828 Main pot 6990. Side pot 70838. | Rake 0
Board [Ts 3d 9s 2h Qh]
Seat 1: Peekiboo81 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Shep73 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: BobnoC folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: TanningGirl folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: muddman58 showed [As 3s] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 6: MakeNcents_ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: bigaofpa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: njm4751 (button) showed [9c 9h] and won (77828) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 9: catrinamel (small blind) showed [Jc Jh] and lost with a pair of Jacks
 

Swede

Hell is only a word
PABaccred
PABnonaccred
VUL there but if it's any comfort you played it quite well. Flat-calling the raise with your stack is fine but in a $2 tourney it's easier just to push. You will see what I mean after being in this situation more that once against unknown players. In this case, njm is trying a bully/stack size move and nothing but. He/she will rarely show up with a big hand here.

PS It's good to see a poker hand posted on CM even if I put you down, just a little :)

Good luck at the tables,

Swede
 

catrina m

Senior Member
PABaccred
VUL there but if it's any comfort you played it quite well. Flat-calling the raise with your stack is fine but in a $2 tourney it's easier just to push. You will see what I mean after being in this situation more that once against unknown players. In this case, njm is trying a bully/stack size move and nothing but. He/she will rarely show up with a big hand here.

PS It's good to see a poker hand posted on CM even if I put you down, just a little :)

Good luck at the tables,

Swede

I seriously thought he hit a pair and was chasing everyone out, oh well, at least it wasn't a $50 buy in.

I am learning poker more and more, with the casino situation I decided to turn to poker a little more.

I welcome any comments, it can only help, but this was a dumb raise, lol.

I may post a nice winner if I ever get that far.
 

catrina m

Senior Member
PABaccred
The nines played a factor again, maybe I can hang on to place in this one. Still a long way to go, if I don't post an outcome you will know I donked out, lol

PokerStars Game #22304047629: Tournament #120443280, $2.50+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/11/23 17:28:32 ET
Table '120443280 498' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: ILYANA 64 (1813 in chips)
Seat 2: pokermase32 (1820 in chips)
Seat 3: OlDirtyBza (3210 in chips)
Seat 4: madkazza (725 in chips)
Seat 5: tazshedevil2 (3595 in chips)
Seat 6: vicomte38 (1067 in chips)
Seat 7: catrinamel (4890 in chips)
Seat 8: 19HAMMER79 (1465 in chips)
Seat 9: paleface1301 (2720 in chips)
madkazza: posts small blind 15
tazshedevil2: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to catrinamel [9s 9d]
vicomte38: folds
catrinamel: calls 30
19HAMMER79: calls 30
paleface1301: folds
ILYANA 64: raises 60 to 90
pokermase32: folds
OlDirtyBza: raises 150 to 240
madkazza: folds
tazshedevil2: folds
catrinamel: calls 210
19HAMMER79: folds
ILYANA 64: calls 150
*** FLOP *** [9h 3c Qc]
catrinamel: bets 4650 and is all-in
ILYANA 64: calls 1573 and is all-in
OlDirtyBza: calls 2970 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1680) returned to catrinamel
*** TURN *** [9h 3c Qc] [2c]
*** RIVER *** [9h 3c Qc 2c] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
catrinamel: shows [9s 9d] (three of a kind, Nines)
OlDirtyBza: shows [As Ah] (a pair of Aces)
catrinamel collected 2794 from side pot
ILYANA 64: shows [Jh Kh] (high card King)
catrinamel collected 5514 from main pot
psykick420 is connected
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8308 Main pot 5514. Side pot 2794. | Rake 0
Board [9h 3c Qc 2c 5h]
Seat 1: ILYANA 64 showed [Jh Kh] and lost with high card King
Seat 2: pokermase32 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: OlDirtyBza (button) showed [As Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: madkazza (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: tazshedevil2 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: vicomte38 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: catrinamel showed [9s 9d] and won (8308) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 8: 19HAMMER79 folded before Flop
Seat 9: paleface1301 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 

hushda24

Dormant account
You're #2 at your table calling a 3 bet shove with JJ? It's a pretty easy fold IMO.
Are you being serious ? Its an instant shove for me. What on earth are you waiting for ? AA KK ? Also a $2 multi lol and you want to fold jj ? I take it your a losing player ?
 

hushda24

Dormant account
I seriously thought he hit a pair and was chasing everyone out, oh well, at least it wasn't a $50 buy in.

I am learning poker more and more, with the casino situation I decided to turn to poker a little more.

I welcome any comments, it can only help, but this was a dumb raise, lol.

I may post a nice winner if I ever get that far.
There was nothing dumb about your play at all, With your flat call you was allways geting your chips in with that flop. As allready stated,It was a push pre for me .
 

hushda24

Dormant account
The nines played a factor again, maybe I can hang on to place in this one. Still a long way to go, if I don't post an outcome you will know I donked out, lol

PokerStars Game #22304047629: Tournament #120443280, $2.50+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/11/23 17:28:32 ET
Table '120443280 498' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: ILYANA 64 (1813 in chips)
Seat 2: pokermase32 (1820 in chips)
Seat 3: OlDirtyBza (3210 in chips)
Seat 4: madkazza (725 in chips)
Seat 5: tazshedevil2 (3595 in chips)
Seat 6: vicomte38 (1067 in chips)
Seat 7: catrinamel (4890 in chips)
Seat 8: 19HAMMER79 (1465 in chips)
Seat 9: paleface1301 (2720 in chips)
madkazza: posts small blind 15
tazshedevil2: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to catrinamel [9s 9d]
vicomte38: folds
catrinamel: calls 30
19HAMMER79: calls 30
paleface1301: folds
ILYANA 64: raises 60 to 90
pokermase32: folds
OlDirtyBza: raises 150 to 240
madkazza: folds
tazshedevil2: folds
catrinamel: calls 210
19HAMMER79: folds
ILYANA 64: calls 150
*** FLOP *** [9h 3c Qc]
catrinamel: bets 4650 and is all-in
ILYANA 64: calls 1573 and is all-in
OlDirtyBza: calls 2970 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1680) returned to catrinamel
*** TURN *** [9h 3c Qc] [2c]
*** RIVER *** [9h 3c Qc 2c] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
catrinamel: shows [9s 9d] (three of a kind, Nines)
OlDirtyBza: shows [As Ah] (a pair of Aces)
catrinamel collected 2794 from side pot
ILYANA 64: shows [Jh Kh] (high card King)
catrinamel collected 5514 from main pot
psykick420 is connected
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8308 Main pot 5514. Side pot 2794. | Rake 0
Board [9h 3c Qc 2c 5h]
Seat 1: ILYANA 64 showed [Jh Kh] and lost with high card King
Seat 2: pokermase32 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: OlDirtyBza (button) showed [As Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: madkazza (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: tazshedevil2 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: vicomte38 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: catrinamel showed [9s 9d] and won (8308) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 8: 19HAMMER79 folded before Flop
Seat 9: paleface1301 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Now i hate this play cat . What on earth are you doing going allin 1st to act on flop ?
 

winbig

Keep winning this amount.
You're #2 at your table calling a 3 bet shove with JJ? It's a pretty easy fold IMO.
You're kidding, right?

The player that shoved all in barely had over 2 BB's left. The re-raise only amounted to a 3x total BB bet.

You're going to fold JJ in that situation, with 3 players in the hand and 1 all-in...with a sidepot heads up against the other player? I only have one word for that:

NIT!


As it was stated before, are you waiting on QQ,KK,AA to play? Or maybe overplay AQ/AK in that situation? Of course not.....:)

Think about it:

$125 ante
$600 SB
$1200 BB

At a full 9 seat table, it's costing you $2925 in chips every round.

And you're going to fold JJ pre to a 3x BB raise? In position? On the Button?
 

catrina m

Senior Member
PABaccred
I got 160th out of 6000

won $18 bucks, oh well how was this call, a bad beat or stupid


PokerStars Game #22309889202: Tournament #120443280, $2.50+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2008/11/23 21:01:47 ET
Table '120443280 25' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: PINKIPOU (83778 in chips)
Seat 2: catrinamel (47227 in chips)
Seat 3: Toni1279 (41792 in chips)
Seat 4: DESS66 (42648 in chips)
Seat 5: 1rufneck (38387 in chips)
Seat 6: dianerh1 (68012 in chips)
Seat 7: 4C1308 (29650 in chips)
Seat 8: Pokerbr_77 (57808 in chips)
Seat 9: ollikahn23 (108768 in chips)
PINKIPOU: posts the ante 200
catrinamel: posts the ante 200
Toni1279: posts the ante 200
DESS66: posts the ante 200
1rufneck: posts the ante 200
dianerh1: posts the ante 200
4C1308: posts the ante 200
Pokerbr_77: posts the ante 200
ollikahn23: posts the ante 200
catrinamel: posts small blind 1000
Toni1279: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to catrinamel [Ah Qh]
DESS66: folds
Pokerbr_77 said, "nh"
1rufneck: folds
dianerh1: calls 2000
4C1308: folds
Pokerbr_77: folds
ollikahn23: raises 4000 to 6000
PINKIPOU: folds
catrinamel: calls 5000
Toni1279: folds
dianerh1: calls 4000
*** FLOP *** [6d Qs Jd]
catrinamel: bets 41027 and is all-in
dianerh1: raises 20785 to 61812 and is all-in
ollikahn23: folds
Uncalled bet (20785) returned to dianerh1
*** TURN *** [6d Qs Jd] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [6d Qs Jd 9h] [8c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
catrinamel: shows [Ah Qh] (a pair of Queens)
dianerh1: shows [9d Qd] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
dianerh1 collected 103854 from pot
Pokerbr_77 said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 103854 | Rake 0
Board [6d Qs Jd 9h 8c]
Seat 1: PINKIPOU (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: catrinamel (small blind) showed [Ah Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 3: Toni1279 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: DESS66 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: 1rufneck folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: dianerh1 showed [9d Qd] and won (103854) with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 7: 4C1308 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Pokerbr_77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ollikahn23 folded on the Flop
 

hushda24

Dormant account
It wasn't that bad of a play. Check the flop - there's a flush draw and straight draw possible. Why risk giving them a free card to hit their hand? Make them pay for it. :)
Theres nothing to think about here tho, You have hit the 2nd nuts and WANT paying off,You dont want them folding.Its an instant check.Theres no way with action preflop they are both checking this flop. let 1 of them lead out , then bang em in :)
 

hushda24

Dormant account
I got 160th out of 6000

won $18 bucks, oh well how was this call, a bad beat or stupid


PokerStars Game #22309889202: Tournament #120443280, $2.50+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2008/11/23 21:01:47 ET
Table '120443280 25' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: PINKIPOU (83778 in chips)
Seat 2: catrinamel (47227 in chips)
Seat 3: Toni1279 (41792 in chips)
Seat 4: DESS66 (42648 in chips)
Seat 5: 1rufneck (38387 in chips)
Seat 6: dianerh1 (68012 in chips)
Seat 7: 4C1308 (29650 in chips)
Seat 8: Pokerbr_77 (57808 in chips)
Seat 9: ollikahn23 (108768 in chips)
PINKIPOU: posts the ante 200
catrinamel: posts the ante 200
Toni1279: posts the ante 200
DESS66: posts the ante 200
1rufneck: posts the ante 200
dianerh1: posts the ante 200
4C1308: posts the ante 200
Pokerbr_77: posts the ante 200
ollikahn23: posts the ante 200
catrinamel: posts small blind 1000
Toni1279: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to catrinamel [Ah Qh]
DESS66: folds
Pokerbr_77 said, "nh"
1rufneck: folds
dianerh1: calls 2000
4C1308: folds
Pokerbr_77: folds
ollikahn23: raises 4000 to 6000
PINKIPOU: folds
catrinamel: calls 5000
Toni1279: folds
dianerh1: calls 4000
*** FLOP *** [6d Qs Jd]
catrinamel: bets 41027 and is all-in
dianerh1: raises 20785 to 61812 and is all-in
ollikahn23: folds
Uncalled bet (20785) returned to dianerh1
*** TURN *** [6d Qs Jd] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [6d Qs Jd 9h] [8c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
catrinamel: shows [Ah Qh] (a pair of Queens)
dianerh1: shows [9d Qd] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
dianerh1 collected 103854 from pot
Pokerbr_77 said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 103854 | Rake 0
Board [6d Qs Jd 9h 8c]
Seat 1: PINKIPOU (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: catrinamel (small blind) showed [Ah Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 3: Toni1279 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: DESS66 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: 1rufneck folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: dianerh1 showed [9d Qd] and won (103854) with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 7: 4C1308 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Pokerbr_77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ollikahn23 folded on the Flop
I am afraid this is car crash poker cat. Them low buy in multis are donk fests. Personally i would be allin here preflop or DEFO reraise pre. By looks of it you do to much calling.USE your reraise button. Believe me you will get more respect and win more. Hope this helps.
 

hushda24

Dormant account
Rereading and looking at chip counts,I am ALLIN pre. diane isnt calling and you would of won this pot. The other was bullying. :thumbsup:
 

hushda24

Dormant account
Look at the postion diane is limping in with qd 9d lololol As i say its a donkfest . Please put more of these up. They really do show how bad players are.
 

catrina m

Senior Member
PABaccred
I am afraid this is car crash poker cat. Them low buy in multis are donk fests. Personally i would be allin here preflop or DEFO reraise pre. By looks of it you do to much calling.USE your reraise button. Believe me you will get more respect and win more. Hope this helps.

I should have went all in pre flop
 

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