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yes, the man has the body of a god
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body of a gourd
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body of a gourd
yes, the man has the body of a god
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body of a gourd
gods that's scary lol
kroffe when it comes to politics, you're not the same cuddly bear you normally are, you get your claws out straightaway
The bears are not what they seem.
wow I never realised they were that mobile in attack mode, no wonder meeting one is fatal.
Do you have wild brown bears in Finland and next door in sweden?
I can just imagine the feeling of dread at seeing one in the woods and he sees or smells you...dinner time
I think @Kroffe farms them somewhere in Swedenland.
There are around 2100 wild bears here. For some reason they don't respect borders, they just wander from Sweden and Russia and do as they please. How rude are they.
2018 they estimated 2900 bears were chilling in our forests.
Its pretty rare seeing one.
If you are out walking in the woods, just make sure you dont sneak around like a ninja.
You dont want to sneak up on a Mama Moose or Mama Bear chilling with their offspring (animal children, not the band)
might be better odds stumbling on a bear than getting a doa2 wildline
you must have roaming wolf packs in the woods as well in sweden? I had always thought it would be nice to hike/ramble in the scandi countries, having a few 2nd thoughts now, I quite like the way my limbs are currently attached to my body... any dangerous snakes or spiders to add to the list?
Kroffe, after viewing the VS thread on privacy I was having a gander on google about sweden and spying on the public, but got distracted by an article about the assassination of the Swedish prime minister Olof Palme in 1986 [which I don't believe I'd ever heard about before, maybe in passing the name rings a bell ] which has never been solved ?
Sounds like one for the conspiracy files/CM conspiracy group...or the NK thread
I was born 1986, and with that, this discussion is over.
We dont talk about the incident.
Fair enough, does seem it was and still is a seismic event in swedish history.
I respect your wish, my lips are sealed.
Tell Jennifer Williams, whoever that is, to read BOTH transcripts of the presidential calls, & see the just released ststement from Ukraine. Then she should meet with the other Never Trumpers, who I don’t know & mostly never even heard of, & work out a better presidential attack!
Yeah, i cant really discuss it since i dont remember the details.
I just remember hearing a voice just after i was born. The voice asked me if we should go ahead with the Palme-plan, and if i had given my go-ahead for the Nuclear experiment in Chernobyl.
I think i said yes, but im not 100% sure.
Thats why i dont speak much about the incident.
haha it was you, a baby assassin using stilts and a long mac!
No it's a fascinating subject, although upsetting for many in sweden. I was interested to read that apparently stieg larsson was looking into the case not long before he died of a heart attack aged only 50...hmm I don't know if that is true but some coincidence.
It would be amazing if one day all the big mystery's and unsolved questions could be answered, motive is key in cases like this and the ability/means to evade detection.
But will leave it there and return to good old donald
The impeachment trial is another farce I'm sorry to say, it's a fishing trip, let's make a charge against the president [the biden quid pro quo claim] and then we can question all these govt officials under oath and hopefully one or two will drop a bombsell revelation we can then use as the original charge was going nowhere, it's a means to an end.
Trump's having a bout of dementia it seems:
She was a special advisor to Pence on Russia, ofcourse he knows who she is...
I don't think it is a farce because it is not just one call. It is the corrupt lead-up to the call and what was supposed to follow after the call. It was a pre-meditated campaign to make sure his political opponent is tarnished. That is against the US constitution no matter how much you would love your idol to be innocent.
I read an article on a site which linked to this story, would think it lays out the development in a good chronological order and also give a little insight into how Mr T thinks he can get away with anything he does:You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.
I just think the fact the focus is so much on the ukraine, neutrals in the middle will feel apathy, who cares about the ukraine honestly. And If biden and his son had done nothing wrong then trump was requesting the ukrainians to investigate hot air.
As the journalist kimberley strassel was saying on the lou dobbs show the other day [lou was away] and trump posted the clip on his twitter, where is the quo in this quid pro quo, the ukrainians gave trump nothing he gave them the aid. It is a good interview and covers the differences between this impeachment process and the ones before.
The republicans in the senate aren't going to uphold the impeachment verdict because of this hazy biden quid pro quo, so it's really about influencing the public, will they even bother watching if it carries on in the same 'he says, she says fashion' - all hearsay.
I'm not sure adam schiff is the most credible person either to be leading this, I don't know if he comes from a legal background but I think somebody with a legal mind/training would be required. If you try to block too many people from asking questions it begins to look evasive and dodgy, let the questions and answers fall on their own merit.
The whole charge, sequence of events needs to be boiled down so the public can understand it, I don't really see how bill taylor and his predecessor have moved the story on much, in which case that segment was a waste of time and you can't afford to waste the public's time with these things.
I can't disagree that trump is a real estate braggart from NY, but he is a bit more than that too.
You do not need a "quo". The mere asking of a foreign country for help with your political campaign is totally sufficient.
And given another few days, the Ukrainians would have announced the investigations. They had already agreed (as Sondland said in his phone call). An interview with Zelensky on CNN was scheduled to happen and was then cancelled when the whistleblower report became public. So just a few more days, and you would have had the clear "quo".
Again, this is not about Biden, it is the corrupt build-up that undermines US national security in exchange for political aid in Mr T's campaign.
Schiff is an ex-US attorney from California, so I would say he is the right person for the job. Until now, he has been blocking only questions which have nothing to do with the case, e.g. Nunes and others trying to advance yet again the same conspiracy theories. Please make the effort to watch the proceedings live and don't simply believe what Lou and Fox are telling you or want you to see.
As for hearsay, well, Mr T is blocking all direct witnesses from testifying. Just like in a mob case where such tactics are common, you build a case with the resources you have. BTW, David Holmes and Jennifer Williams are direct witnesses and they corroborated the story. It will be an interesting Wednesday when Sondland testifies again as he nearly perjured himself already once.
Investigating Biden would be totally OK, however, this was not about the investigation itself. Mr T wanted simply to have the Ukrainians announce the investigations because that would have been enough to sink Biden's bid for the presidency. He doesn't care one single bit about the investigation itself and even less about corruption.
BTW, Mr T was not the one who released the aid as he claims. It was the State Deparment legal office who said that there is no legal standing in withholding it.
Right I gotcha, trump wanted the ukraine to announce an investigation had begun, that's not an angle I'd heard till now, maybe the ukrainian officials involved in the conversations etc.. will also need to testify under oath
I'm sorry but I don't think I could watch the whole hearings, I watched a bit earlier today of marie's testimony, but it all felt a little bit unexciting. I don't think she would've found trump's tweet intimidating, he slags off loads of people, she'd probably thinks he must be rattled and I'm getting even.
In a procedure or process if your chairman, as I guess schiff is, has already completely made up their mind, which he has clearly from before day 1...he will try to orchestrate the proceedings to get the outcome he wants, I don't think that is exactly compatible with having a fair or balanced hearing.
Surely even if you despise trump you must be able to see the shortcomings of the way this process has been handled so far, would anyone want to be investigated this way, it looks like a kangaroo, political court.
Right I gotcha, trump wanted the ukraine to announce an investigation had begun, that's not an angle I'd heard till now, maybe the ukrainian officials involved in the conversations etc.. will also need to testify under oath
I'm sorry but I don't think I could watch the whole hearings, I watched a bit earlier today of marie's testimony, but it all felt a little bit unexciting. I don't think she would've found trump's tweet intimidating, he slags off loads of people, she'd probably thinks he must be rattled and I'm getting even.
In a procedure or process if your chairman, as I guess schiff is, has already completely made up their mind, which he has clearly from before day 1...he will try to orchestrate the proceedings to get the outcome he wants, I don't think that is exactly compatible with having a fair or balanced hearing.
Surely even if you despise trump you must be able to see the shortcomings of the way this process has been handled so far, would anyone want to be investigated this way, it looks like a kangaroo, political court.