Norskespill Casino – crazy rules, horrible service.

pastoverde

Banned User - multiple forum accounts
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Location
Spain
I deposited last month and they gave me a bonus. I asked them to remove the bonus because I found out it had all kinds of rules and restrictions attached to it. They said that if they remove the bonus then I would lose my REAL MONEY DEPOSIT too which sounded crazy to me.

Anyway, I was out of town for awhile so left the situation sitting because I didn't have time to deal with this nonsense. Then when I get back, I log into my account and my whole balance is gone before I even tried to play. They said that the bonus expired and that my real money deposit expired too which sounds even crazier.

The whole thing is just really dumb if you ask me.

All I wanted them to do was let me play with my deposit with no bonus or if that’s so hard cause of their crazy pages of rules then just return my deposit
.
They refuse to give me back my deposit and cite one of their millions of rules.
 

vinylweatherman

You type well loads
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Location
United Kingdom
NorskeSpill.com is operated by OddsMatrix, Suite 1, Number 62/63, Morina Court , Borg Olivier Street, St.Julians STJ 1081 (Registration Number: C44411), a member of the EU since May 2004, that operates under regulation and license from the Lotteries & Gaming Authority of Malta, license no: LGA/CL2/497/2008 issued on 3 February, 2009

There is something strikingly familiar about their website design. I have seen this with another casino I looked at recently, but haven't played.

Perhaps this is a white label.

However, the terms do not support your story (or the casino has failed to abide by it's own terms).

Firstly, the welcome bonus has to be claimed by entering a code, so surely not entering a code would enable play without any bonus.

Secondly, there are two circumstances where the bonus can be voided. The first is upon expiry, and the second is where a player requests a withdrawal before meeting WR.

In both cases, the bonus and winnings are voided, but the real money deposit is not, and should therefore be available for retrieval.

If they wiped everything after 15 days, they have acted outside their own terms and conditions, so you have a good case for a PAB.
 

pastoverde

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Location
Spain
There is something strikingly familiar about their website design. I have seen this with another casino I looked at recently, but haven't played.

Perhaps this is a white label.

However, the terms do not support your story (or the casino has failed to abide by it's own terms).

Firstly, the welcome bonus has to be claimed by entering a code, so surely not entering a code would enable play without any bonus.

Secondly, there are two circumstances where the bonus can be voided. The first is upon expiry, and the second is where a player requests a withdrawal before meeting WR.

In both cases, the bonus and winnings are voided, but the real money deposit is not, and should therefore be available for retrieval.

If they wiped everything after 15 days, they have acted outside their own terms and conditions, so you have a good case for a PAB.

Sorry, misunderstanding. I DID enter the code to get the bonus but I did not realize all the restrictions so I just asked them to remove the bonus.

So they said I would lose my deposit if they remove the bonus.

Anyway, this is so dumb.

pastoverde:
Please remove the bonus from my account.

norskespill (retard business with terrible language skills):
Are you really sure that you want us to remove the bonus from your account?
If we do that all your money also will removes from your account.

pastoverde:
gone on trip

pastoverde (post-trip): I made a 250 deposit to the casino and now it's gone. where did my balance go? I haven't played anything yet.

norskespill (retard business):
When you did the deposit you also taking one of our bonus, your bonus expired, according to our bonus terms and conditions, if the bonus expires, all bonus and initial depoisit will be deducted by system automatically.

Please read our terms and conditions for the bonus on the link below:

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Of course, I did not even bother to read through these terms now cause I do not have time for this garbage. Just don't be a doche and give me my deposit back or at least let me play.

And it is only 250. Imagine if they had to pay me serious money. The site I used to play at credited me 10k EURO wins but unfortuantely pulled out ofmy country.
 

vinylweatherman

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Location
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T & C Welcome Bonus 200%

1. This promotion is only available to new NorskeSpill players and will only be awarded on the first deposit to the casino.

2. Your first deposit will be 200% matched with a deposit bonus. The welcome bonus is limited to a deposit of 250 NOK where you can double your maximum contribution to 750 NOK. If you are holding your account in a different currency you will receive an equivalent amount in your own currency.

3. To be eligible for this offer, your initial deposit must be equal to or greater than NOK 80.

4. The bonus and qualifying deposit must be turned over (wagering requirement) 40 times before any part of the deposit, bonus funds or associated winnings can be withdrawn from the customer's account. For example, a bonus of NOK 400 triggered by a deposit of NOK 200 requires a total of NOK 24 000 = (NOK 400 + NOK 200) x 40 in bets before the bonus requirement is met. If a customer wishes to withdraw funds prior to meeting a wagering requirement, the bonus and any associated winnings will have to be forfeited by the player and deducted from his/her account. Players can follow their current wagering requirement(s) by checking under "My Account" -> "Available Bonus".

5. Only real money play will contribute to the wagering requirements of this bonus. Playing with fun money does not contribute.

6. For this promotion, not all games contribute the same percentage towards reducing a player's wagering requirement. Wagers made on all Slots, Scratch Cards and Other Games contribute 100%, and all wagers on Table Games and Video Poker contribute 10%, with the following exceptions; Jackpot 6000, Mega Joker, Pirate's Gold and Sfari Madness, Blood Suckers, Devils Delight, Kings of Chicago, Jack Hammer, Jack Hammer 2, Lucky8line and Simsalabim contribute 20%; all Hi-Low and Casino Hold'em contribute 10%; all Jacks or Better contribute 5%; all Roulette, Black Jack, Punto Banco, Pontoon, Baccarat and Oasis Poker contribute 1%.

Hall of Gods, Mega Fortune and Arabian Nights don´t contribute towards reducing a player's wagering requirement.

7. The customer has 15 days from receiving the bonus to meet the wagering requirement. If bonus expiry date is reached or if the player wishes to make a withdrawal before the bonus requirement is met, the bonus funds and any associated winnings will be surrendered.

8. The deposit amount that activated a bonus is added to the total bonus funds and remains as a bonus balance until the bonus wagering requirement is met. For any bet placed, funds are first deducted from the players Cash Balance. If no cash is available, then the wager is deducted from the Bonus Balance. Therefore the Bonus Balance is only played if there is no Cash Balance left.

9. If you lose your entire deposit and associated bonus, but have not satisfied the entire wagering requirement, any remaining wagering requirements will be waived.

10. In the interest of fair gaming there is a maximum allowed stake per bet until the wagering requirement has been met. This maximum stake is 10% of the bonus amount received. A Bet is defined as one roulette/slot spin or one dealer's dealt hand in any table game, or one deal in any Video Poker game (this includes Multi-Hand/Play games). This rule also applies when using any double up/gamble feature in any game, for example video poker. This means that the player may not continue to double a win to an amount larger than 20% of the bonus amount received. If this rule is broken the player agrees that his bonus and any associated winnings may be void. Exception: players are allowed to places bets up to the size of NOK 50 (or equivalent amount in other currencies), regardless of bonus amount received.

11. Only one Welcome Casino Bonus is allowed per customer, per household, per address, per shared computer and per shared IP address.

12. Bonuses offered by NorskeSpill.com are intended for genuine recreational players only. Abuse of the bonus offer will not be tolerated. NorskeSpill.com reserves the right to investigate, cancel, suspend or lock any account if bonus abuse is suspected. At our discretion, all bonuses and subsequent gaming activity may be revoked and voided, and deposits returned. Professional players or players that we determine to be abusing the bonus offers may face additional restrictions and/or lockouts.

13. NorskeSpill.com reserves the right to change the terms and conditions of this offer at any time without prior notice and it is your responsibility to periodically check our website for changes and updates.

14. NorskeSpill.com reserves the right to exclude players from this and all future promotions if we have reason to believe they are abusing this promotion.

15. In case of any dispute, the decision by NorskeSpill.com is final.

16. The terms and conditions valid for this particular bonus are supplementary to the General Terms and Conditions issued by NorskeSpill.com.

Are you really sure that you want us to remove the bonus from your account?
If we do that all your money also will removes from your account.

Bollocks!

When you did the deposit you also taking one of our bonus, your bonus expired, according to our bonus terms and conditions, if the bonus expires, all bonus and initial depoisit will be deducted by system automatically.

Bullshit!

If you are an "abusive player" you get your deposits back, yet a player that deposits and then runs into a problem with CS gets it all confiscated, even though nothing in the terms allows for this.

This is a candidate for a PAB, and if they really are voiding deposits, a casino warning could follow.

It is often that case that when regulations cause the better sites to pull out of a country, players tend to fall victim to the less scrupulous operations.

This is bad, even for the LGA. They do seem to side with the casino in bonus disputes, but they don't allow arbitrary confiscation of deposits.
 

Andy Walker

Full Member
Joined
Jun 5, 2013
Location
UK
Bollocks!



Bullshit!

If you are an "abusive player" you get your deposits back, yet a player that deposits and then runs into a problem with CS gets it all confiscated, even though nothing in the terms allows for this.

This is a candidate for a PAB, and if they really are voiding deposits, a casino warning could follow.

It is often that case that when regulations cause the better sites to pull out of a country, players tend to fall victim to the less scrupulous operations.

This is bad, even for the LGA. They do seem to side with the casino in bonus disputes, but they don't allow arbitrary confiscation of deposits.

Could someone please translate these terms and conditions into Klingon so I can best understand them?
 

incrediblestuff

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Could someone please translate these terms and conditions into Klingon so I can best understand them?

Sure mate, here you go:

Bonus nuqneH rut [taH je 200 vatlhvI'

1. neH lupoQ DawI'pu' norskespill chu' 'ej neH van'a' wa'DIch deposit casino promotion.

2. deposit wa'DIch 200 vatlhvI' deposit bonus qul naQmey. vuS deposit 250 nok, nuqDaq chonaDmo', cha'logh vaj 'aqroS contribution 750 nok laH bonus majQa'. vaj account 'uchtaH currency pIm equivalent amount Hev currency.

3. 'e' eligible offer, deposit pImchugh chuqmey poHmey ghob'e' equal pagh matay'DI' puS nok 80.

4. ghob'e' tlhe', bonus je deposit 'um rIn (jo requirement) 40 poH pa' deposit, bonus funds 'ay' vay' pagh laH yIghoS maqochpu'na' maHtaH winnings vo' customer account. example total nok 24 000 poQ bonus nok 400 chu'wI' deposit nok 200 (nok 400 + nok 200) = x 40 bets ngejtaH ghom bonus requirement. neHchugh prior to jo requirement ghom funds yIghoS customer, forfeited DawI'pu' 'ej vo' his/her account deducted ghaj bonus 'ej vay' maqochpu'na' maHtaH winnings. QapHa'choH jo requirement(s) laH tlha' DawI'pu' pong QongDaqDaj bIngDaq "Account"-> "lupoQ Bonus" checking.

5. ghaq neH Huch real reH jo requirements bonus. reH fun wej ghaq Huch.

6. promotion Sut rap chu' towards jo requirement DawI'pu' reducing ghaq wej Hoch Quj. 100 vatlhvI' ghaq jo chenmoH Hoch Slots, chaw' Scratch 'ej latlh Qujmey 'ej 10 vatlhvI', tlha' lurIHbogh ghaq Hoch jo raS Quj 'ej Video Poker. 20 vatlhvI' ghaq jackpot 6000, mega Joker, Pirate Gold sfari maw'bej, 'Iw Suckers, veqlargh Delight, ta' chicago, jawwI' Dogh mupwI', jawwI' Dogh mupwI' 2, lucky8line 'ej simsalabim; 10 vatlhvI' ghaq Hoch bIpIv'a'-'eS 'ej Casino hold'em; 5 vatlhvI' ghaq Hoch jawwI' Dogh pagh net poQbej; 1 vatlhvI' ghaq Hoch Roulette, qIj jawwI' Dogh, punto Banco, Pontoon, Baccarat 'ej Oasis Poker.

ghaq vaS qeylIS, mega San toy' 'ej arabian ram don´t towards jo requirement chu'wI' reducing.

7. 15 jaj vo' jo requirement ghom bonus Hev ghaj customer. vaj SIch bonus expiry date pagh withdrawal chenmoH ngejtaH ghom bonus requirement vIneH DawI'pu', jegh'a' vay' maqochpu'na' maHtaH winnings 'ej bonus funds.

8. chel total bonus funds 'ej ratlhtaH je bonus ngaD until ghom bonus jo requirement deposit amount 'e' bonus chu'. vay' bet lan, wa'DIch deducted funds vo' DawI'pu' je'laH 'e' baj ngaD. vaj pagh je'laH 'e' baj lupoQ, vaj deducted jo vo' Bonus ngaD. vaj neH chu' Bonus ngaD tlhoy pagh je'laH 'e' baj ngaD mej.

9. vaj 'ej maqochpu'na' maHtaH bonus naQ deposit luj, 'ach wej naQ jo requirement yon, waived vay' ratlh jo requirements.

10. wabHey 'IH gaming tu'lu' 'aqroS chaw' stake per bet until ghom jo requirement. 'aqroS stake 10 vatlhvI' bonus amount Hev. defined Bet je wa' roulette ghap slot DIng pagh wa' dealer Ha' ghop Quj raS vay', wa' Ha' vay' Video Poker Qujmey DaH (multi-ghopDu' ghap chu' Quj nobvam) pagh. je applies che' lo'lu'DI' vay' chonaDmo', cha'logh vaj up/gamble feature qaStaHvIS vay' SuDtaH chaH, example video poker. 'e' Qap amount weghbogh puS 20 vatlhvI' bonus amount Hev chonaDmo', cha'logh vaj chaq wej taH DawI'pu' qej. vaj che' bIDuy'chugh 'e' bonus vay' maqochpu'na' maHtaH winnings 'ej chaq chIm jIQochbe' DawI'pu'. lurIHbogh: chaw' DawI'pu' Daq bets porghDaj moH nok 50 (joq equivalent amount latlh currencies), regardless of bonus amount Hev size.

11. De'wI' SoH 'ej per ip SoQ SoH neH chaw' Bonus Casino majQa' per customer mIw vIlIj, 'ej per household mIw vIlIj, 'ej per SoQ, per.

12. Hech bonuses offered norskespill.com genuine recreational DawI'pu' neH. not chergh ghong bonus offer. investigate, qIl, suspend pagh vay' account ngaQ vaj nub bonus ghong nIH reserves norskespill.com. qaStaHvIS discretion chaq revoked chIm Hoch bonuses 'ej subsequent gaming activity, 'ej chegh deposits. Saturjaj restrictions qoj lockouts chaq qab targhHom veDDaq noch DawI'pu' wej DawI' 'e' qIlmeH bonus offers yISov pIj pagh.

13. wabmey offer DeSDu' Hutlh prior tu' poH vay' je 'ej wIQaw'laH nIH reserves norskespill.com 'ej responsibility periodically website choH updates 'ej check.

14. lugh DawI'pu' exclude 'ej Hoch promotions pIq 'IjmeH meq promotion yISov chaH 'e' luHar reserves norskespill.com.

15. case vay' ghoH pong norskespill.com decision Qav.

16., wabmey je je valid bIH bonus supplementary luchaw' wabmey 'ej wanI'vammo' tlha' je pong norskespill.com.
 

vinylweatherman

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I think the CS need them translated too, they seem to think they provide for the confiscation of deposits where the bonus is not wagered within 15 days.

This kind of thing damns the whole of Everymatrix, not just one of their skins, as it looks like a string of white labels.

Although a single incident, it makes me wary of ALL Everymatrix skins in the same way that I avoid Rival and Playtech. I will be less wary if this turns out to be a "one off", and there are no other similar complaints about Everymatrix skins.
 

Andy Walker

Full Member
Joined
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Location
UK
Sure mate, here you go:

Bonus nuqneH rut [taH je 200 vatlhvI'

1. neH lupoQ DawI'pu' norskespill chu' 'ej neH van'a' wa'DIch deposit casino promotion.

2. deposit wa'DIch 200 vatlhvI' deposit bonus qul naQmey. vuS deposit 250 nok, nuqDaq chonaDmo', cha'logh vaj 'aqroS contribution 750 nok laH bonus majQa'. vaj account 'uchtaH currency pIm equivalent amount Hev currency.

3. 'e' eligible offer, deposit pImchugh chuqmey poHmey ghob'e' equal pagh matay'DI' puS nok 80.

4. ghob'e' tlhe', bonus je deposit 'um rIn (jo requirement) 40 poH pa' deposit, bonus funds 'ay' vay' pagh laH yIghoS maqochpu'na' maHtaH winnings vo' customer account. example total nok 24 000 poQ bonus nok 400 chu'wI' deposit nok 200 (nok 400 + nok 200) = x 40 bets ngejtaH ghom bonus requirement. neHchugh prior to jo requirement ghom funds yIghoS customer, forfeited DawI'pu' 'ej vo' his/her account deducted ghaj bonus 'ej vay' maqochpu'na' maHtaH winnings. QapHa'choH jo requirement(s) laH tlha' DawI'pu' pong QongDaqDaj bIngDaq "Account"-> "lupoQ Bonus" checking.

5. ghaq neH Huch real reH jo requirements bonus. reH fun wej ghaq Huch.

6. promotion Sut rap chu' towards jo requirement DawI'pu' reducing ghaq wej Hoch Quj. 100 vatlhvI' ghaq jo chenmoH Hoch Slots, chaw' Scratch 'ej latlh Qujmey 'ej 10 vatlhvI', tlha' lurIHbogh ghaq Hoch jo raS Quj 'ej Video Poker. 20 vatlhvI' ghaq jackpot 6000, mega Joker, Pirate Gold sfari maw'bej, 'Iw Suckers, veqlargh Delight, ta' chicago, jawwI' Dogh mupwI', jawwI' Dogh mupwI' 2, lucky8line 'ej simsalabim; 10 vatlhvI' ghaq Hoch bIpIv'a'-'eS 'ej Casino hold'em; 5 vatlhvI' ghaq Hoch jawwI' Dogh pagh net poQbej; 1 vatlhvI' ghaq Hoch Roulette, qIj jawwI' Dogh, punto Banco, Pontoon, Baccarat 'ej Oasis Poker.

ghaq vaS qeylIS, mega San toy' 'ej arabian ram don´t towards jo requirement chu'wI' reducing.

7. 15 jaj vo' jo requirement ghom bonus Hev ghaj customer. vaj SIch bonus expiry date pagh withdrawal chenmoH ngejtaH ghom bonus requirement vIneH DawI'pu', jegh'a' vay' maqochpu'na' maHtaH winnings 'ej bonus funds.

8. chel total bonus funds 'ej ratlhtaH je bonus ngaD until ghom bonus jo requirement deposit amount 'e' bonus chu'. vay' bet lan, wa'DIch deducted funds vo' DawI'pu' je'laH 'e' baj ngaD. vaj pagh je'laH 'e' baj lupoQ, vaj deducted jo vo' Bonus ngaD. vaj neH chu' Bonus ngaD tlhoy pagh je'laH 'e' baj ngaD mej.

9. vaj 'ej maqochpu'na' maHtaH bonus naQ deposit luj, 'ach wej naQ jo requirement yon, waived vay' ratlh jo requirements.

10. wabHey 'IH gaming tu'lu' 'aqroS chaw' stake per bet until ghom jo requirement. 'aqroS stake 10 vatlhvI' bonus amount Hev. defined Bet je wa' roulette ghap slot DIng pagh wa' dealer Ha' ghop Quj raS vay', wa' Ha' vay' Video Poker Qujmey DaH (multi-ghopDu' ghap chu' Quj nobvam) pagh. je applies che' lo'lu'DI' vay' chonaDmo', cha'logh vaj up/gamble feature qaStaHvIS vay' SuDtaH chaH, example video poker. 'e' Qap amount weghbogh puS 20 vatlhvI' bonus amount Hev chonaDmo', cha'logh vaj chaq wej taH DawI'pu' qej. vaj che' bIDuy'chugh 'e' bonus vay' maqochpu'na' maHtaH winnings 'ej chaq chIm jIQochbe' DawI'pu'. lurIHbogh: chaw' DawI'pu' Daq bets porghDaj moH nok 50 (joq equivalent amount latlh currencies), regardless of bonus amount Hev size.

11. De'wI' SoH 'ej per ip SoQ SoH neH chaw' Bonus Casino majQa' per customer mIw vIlIj, 'ej per household mIw vIlIj, 'ej per SoQ, per.

12. Hech bonuses offered norskespill.com genuine recreational DawI'pu' neH. not chergh ghong bonus offer. investigate, qIl, suspend pagh vay' account ngaQ vaj nub bonus ghong nIH reserves norskespill.com. qaStaHvIS discretion chaq revoked chIm Hoch bonuses 'ej subsequent gaming activity, 'ej chegh deposits. Saturjaj restrictions qoj lockouts chaq qab targhHom veDDaq noch DawI'pu' wej DawI' 'e' qIlmeH bonus offers yISov pIj pagh.

13. wabmey offer DeSDu' Hutlh prior tu' poH vay' je 'ej wIQaw'laH nIH reserves norskespill.com 'ej responsibility periodically website choH updates 'ej check.

14. lugh DawI'pu' exclude 'ej Hoch promotions pIq 'IjmeH meq promotion yISov chaH 'e' luHar reserves norskespill.com.

15. case vay' ghoH pong norskespill.com decision Qav.

16., wabmey je je valid bIH bonus supplementary luchaw' wabmey 'ej wanI'vammo' tlha' je pong norskespill.com.

Well thank you for the translation, I totally agree with clause 11 in British English.

"11. you are a Computer and you are only Closed ip tags permit tags congratulations casino bonus customer in recognition of his manners, and tags in your changed, in recognition of his household, and Closed tags, tags, and so on."

It makes absolute sense and should be adopted across the Casino industry as a standard and set as a president for what T&C's should actually be about and that is in plain English, it's not often that I see insightfulness and clarity that would instill confidence for the player and entertainment provider alike.

I truly hope this catches on, it's quite an infectious ideal.
 

Norskespill

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Location
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Hi pastoverde!

I am very sorry to see that you have had a bad experience at Norskespill.
Please send us an email with your username to "[email protected]", write "Daniel" in the subject field so i can deal with this personally.
Then i can look into what happened and we can discuss a fair solution.

Best regards,
Daniel
Norskespill
 

onkel

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Location
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Hi pastoverde!

I am very sorry to see that you have had a bad experience at Norskespill.
Please send us an email with your username to "[email protected]", write "Daniel" in the subject field so i can deal with this personally.
Then i can look into what happened and we can discuss a fair solution.

Best regards,
Daniel
Norskespill

It would be a disgrace if the player gets anything less than their full deposit back (given that we have all the details).
 

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