No way can anyone be this unlucky...

just play

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I deposited around $350 within 2 weeks at All Slots ($100, $100, $50, $50, $50)

Never once did I go over my initial deposit, not even by a few dollars. I play very low bets usually .27 per spin on my $50 deposits and .54 on my $100 deposits (depending, but never going over .90 unless my balance is well over $100)

Is this normal?

Can someone really be this unlucky?

I got to play for a whole 1/2 hour, it was great. :rolleyes:
 

babs7262

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If I had the answer I would tell you, believe me!! it just stinks no matter where you play for US players.

Is it just USA or is it everywhere?
 

jod5413

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Is it just USA or is it everywhere?

Is it USA players or just the Casinomeister gamblers, who seem to complain constantly about payouts changing, about not getting bonus rounds after hundreds of spins (duh), rigged games, rogue casinos and their actions,etc., BUT keep depositing and losing?

What's wrong with this picture? Just curious.
 

steinhaug

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Can someone really be this unlucky?

Well, you know I am a firm believer that the system is a little off. However - I would have to not agree with you here. Even if I know the system will balance you out, I know that $350 is just a little sample to get you going. From my own personal experience, I would say that you have a $2000 marker where you will get great wins, sometimes even way over initial deposits, atleast my experience.

All I can say, you should lower your bet even more, down to $0.01 bets, and spin away, register what you "miss" and try to squeeze out atleast 100 spins before thinking of upping. If you miss a big one - do NOT up at all - quit that slot, experience tells you what happends if you don't. Sure you could get it again, but 9/10 you dont.

Switch slots, and keep pushing those $0.01 bets. Seems to me you need to get alot of spins out if you are in a dry-spell.

You could also set Thunderstruck at $0.01 autoplay fastspins for 2000 spins, it goes pretty fast and you don't really loose that much in such a run. However - you get 2000 spins ahead in the game. If you get all theese spins without any particular huge win, in my opinion - you saved a fortune!

Or, another one that works for me, burn $500 on $25 bets on Harveys, then continue low rolling for much better play!

Bare in mind, I am a huge looser on slots, so I always loose in the end and my advice should be worthless! But as you keep depositing you will win, however never what you initially deposited...
 

just play

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Is it USA players or just the Casinomeister gamblers, who seem to complain constantly about payouts changing, about not getting bonus rounds after hundreds of spins (duh), rigged games, rogue casinos and their actions,etc., BUT keep depositing and losing?

What's wrong with this picture? Just curious.



To go back to my original post, do you find this normal when you gamble?

Also, as to your post...where do you expect us gamblers to go and chat/complain/talk about gambling a book club board?

I am only speaking for myself when I answer your question why do I keep depositing? It's a pretty easy answer, because I am a gambler.
 

jod5413

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To go back to my original post, do you find this normal when you gamble?

Also, as to your post...where do you expect us gamblers to go and chat/complain/talk about gambling a book club board?

I am only speaking for myself when I answer your question why do I keep depositing? It's a pretty easy answer, because I am a gambler.

Just Play,

I have been gambling on line for almost seven years, sometimes heavily sometimes not so much. I have seen absolutely no difference in all those years. Sometimes I deposit and get lucky, sometimes not. I am also a gambler, but I also know that depositing over and over again and expecting to win is not realistic. If the games are cold, I leave and try again at another casino, or even another day. I have never in my life stayed on a game (mostly slots) for hundreds of spins til my money is gone. I work hard for my money and refuse to chase losses.

My point about my original post is, gamblers or not, if people are so sure the casinos are not fair, it shows a lack of something to keep playing and complaining. No gambler should "expect" to win, ever. It is not like having a job where you can be assured of income.

I am not condemning anyone for complaining, if the complaint is about poor luck or cold slots, accidental glitches in the games, etc. But, the continued bad mouthing of what the industry considers fair casinos and software and the habit of slamming reps that try to interact and answer questions, is a real downer for many "gamblers".

I agree, Casinomeister is supposed to be a gambling forum.:D
 

just play

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Just Play,

I have been gambling on line for almost seven years, sometimes heavily sometimes not so much. I have seen absolutely no difference in all those years. Sometimes I deposit and get lucky, sometimes not. I am also a gambler, but I also know that depositing over and over again and expecting to win is not realistic. If the games are cold, I leave and try again at another casino, or even another day. I have never in my life stayed on a game (mostly slots) for hundreds of spins til my money is gone. I work hard for my money and refuse to chase losses.

My point about my original post is, gamblers or not, if people are so sure the casinos are not fair, it shows a lack of something to keep playing and complaining. No gambler should "expect" to win, ever. It is not like having a job where you can be assured of income.

I am not condemning anyone for complaining, if the complaint is about poor luck or cold slots, accidental glitches in the games, etc. But, the continued bad mouthing of what the industry considers fair casinos and software and the habit of slamming reps that try to interact and answer questions, is a real downer for many "gamblers".

I agree, Casinomeister is supposed to be a gambling forum.:D


I like the way you worded your first paragraph, that's what I do, I expect to win :oops: at least a bit.

Your second paragraph I was just asking if this happens to other people here.

And I hope your third paragraph isn't about me :( I don't believe I have ever slammed a rep?

If you don't want to answer I understand....what is your normal deposit and bets? Low roller? High roller? I'm trying to get a better understanding on having fun with my limited deposits. Any advice would be great!
 

babs7262

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Jod?
I never said the casinos are rigged, and Just Play just asked a question. I do heed that advice and try elsewhere but that elsewhere seems to be getting smaller and smaller so I believe she asked a legitimate question. Of course we are going to lose more than we win most of the time for most players but its NOT the same as a year ago. I dont know where you are playing but its not any of the places Im at and obviously Just Play is at either.

How can a forum just about 2 years ago not talk so much about losing but rather how we cant fund through USA and now 2 years later its the opposite. We can find ways but now we just cant win anymore like the past. Its not the same. Something has changed and I wouldnt be surprised if RTG pulled out all together and all the while sucking people dry first. I did close my accounts and only kept 2 open (they were the 2 casinos that gave me good play) now that has changed. Go look before this last year and find 5 posts where I bitch and complain about losing so much. I bet you wont find 5 posts because a year (actually 2 years) ago I was a happy camper

And I never bash reps that come in here either with the exception of the guy who outright lied about not being part of cirrus
 

jod5413

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Just Play,

I was speaking in generalities, do not think I was specifically talking about you...or you, Babs.

And I believe I do play at the same casinos most people do. Inetbet, Clubworld, a couple of reputable MGs, and once or twice to try Rival. I have even gone to 3Dice, nice casino, well run, too high variance for me.

I am a low roller, never deposited more than 100 or 200 bucks at a time, never take bonuses, I want to withdraw my wins when I win, not playthrough 30 or more times. I personally believe that bonus playthrough requirements are the reason so many lose. I usually bet $.40 to $.50 a spin, unless I am really ahead, then I will get frivolous. That makes me worried so I go back to my happy camper low rolling.

And Babs, I kind of think you do not always remember all your past posts. Most people can't, especially when they are such busy posters as you are.
 

babs7262

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Im pretty sure I remember even though I post alot. isnt that what a contributor to a forum is suppose to do. If noone posted, noone would have anything to say

We actually gamble the same exact way with the exception of amount deposited. Im a super low roller lol. I deposit roughly $10-$20 at a time and start at .15 cents - .30 cents with the occasional VP at 50cents max. I try to work my way up to higher rolling so I can cash out. I dont expect hundreds Jod, I cashout $50 at a time so when I say something isnt right, I believe it because I only want to get from $20 to $50 in 31 deposits, is that asking for too much?
 

lucky21

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I agree

I do agree with the overwheelming feeling that something is wrong with these casino's I have seen some of the most strangest play over the past 5 years and when talking to professional blackjack players( real casino's) even they scratch there head.

My two bobs worth is that while ever these casino's are larglely unregulated or at least regulations unenforced they will push the envelope, greed decrees that.

it doesnt even have to be in the actual game play that they seek a sneaky advantage, I am arguing with a casino at the moment because i want them to limit my deposit amounts per month, they say they cannot do that but there terms and conditions and the jurastiction they are in says they must, so while ever this is unenforced and i continue to play its two easy to get carried away with topping up.

As a person who never thought of themself as addicted to anything its all two easy with online casino's to find you are addicted in some way.

I am talking with a person at Lotteries and Gaming in Malta about enforcing their laws with the 240 casino's registered with them, she is saying they get little complaints so i urge those haveing issues to complain to them, they have a very good set of regulations if it where to be enforced

These regulations would seem to return the advantage of the casino to game house edge alone and other tactics like no financial protection of players would cease,

I mean according to malta regs you can even set a maximum loss amount per session, so your gamming will stop after that loss, this is one i am sure the casino's wouldnt like but helps us who are spending far to much in this area of "entertainment".
 

DiamondGeezer

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Malta is the Costa Rica of Europe. If you have these issues I suggest you play at Casinos based in Alderney as they do take this sort of stuff seriously.
 
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