Petunia said:
**Just a thought: If the casino takes the money, which you willingly give them, knowing that the odds are MOSTLY in their favour and of course they will not deny it categorically, then they are bad. If you use 'outside help' and you 'cheat', you are the 'good guys' ? Hmmm. What an odd world and time we live in **
Typically I look at my experience at a casino as me vs. them. I place a wager, in hope that I take some of their money. The casino goes to great lengths to ensure they have an advantage over the player, and there is nothing wrong with that. Everything from the placement of the machines, tables, the noise, carpet, lights ect...EVERYTHING is structured to keep the player inside the casino, and losing money. They make no attempt to conceal any of this. If you find a way to lower THEIR advantage, they declare war on you as a player. Case in point would be card counters. This is a perfect example of the casinos crying about their edge beign lowered, when the player does nothing more then play the game. Card counters are not cheaters, this is a battle fought and lost by the casinos. They do not affect the cards in any way shape or form, they simply play the game by tracking mathmatical probalities.
The players in question with the lasers and micro-computers, did not cheat. They didn't affect the ball or the wheel. They tracked the probabalities of where the ball would land and bet accordingly. The casinos cried foul, and lost. So yes, score one for the good guys.
Now the casinos will ban outside laser pointers, and cpu's and cell phones and whatever else they feel like, and thats ok too. Its their business, and they can say or do whatever the hell they feel like. But this tiny little victory for the player stands. It is us vs. them folks. Any other way to look at it is wrong.