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onlineplayer188

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Why do online (RTG) casinos ban people from promiotions? I used to be able to redeeme but now many are telling me i no longer qualify. What is the parameters that make me inillegible?
 

LaHutti

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Propably too many taken, without deposits in between with no bonus, especially if you have cashed out on them.
 

onlineplayer188

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Too many taken? Cherry Red has so many weekend codes. If they are going to limit bonus codes then why offer so many each week?
 

eu_lowroller

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i don't think, that he means ND bonuses, because the weekend bonuses from cherry red and the rest of the rushmore group, are all deposit bonuses ;)
 

yoshirules

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I had the same thing with Inetbet. Mostly use the casinomeister tuesday coupons....won 3 times in a row. Now I am bonusbanned
 

vinylweatherman

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If you win overall, you may get bonus banned. I am bonus banned at Club World for an overall lifetime win on my account. These are DEPOSIT related bonuses, and the RTG platform was designed SPECIFICALLY for operators to use high bonuses to attract deposits, which is why the highest bonuses tend to come from RTG casinos.

I have been bonus banned from quite a few MGS casinos too, and there is a VERY STRONG correlation between this, and me having an overall lifetime win on my account. This is far more than "co-incidence" would suggest, and I have certainly not been "abusing" bonuses by looking for loopholes in the rules, such as "abusive" bets on games that "do not count" as a means to double or bust my starting bankroll.

In many cases, my play has been primarily on SLOTS, yet despite this, I get bonus banned for an overall win, even if not on the FIRST occasion my account goes into the black.

The parameters use must be more complicated than SIMPLY an overall win, it must include an element of whether the luck involved has been above some limit, and some of my bonus bans have followed a second, or even third, lucky run into the black, or further into the black.

Some casinos however, appear NOT to bonus ban players for winning, obvious examples in my experience are 32Red and Jackpot Factory, who probably require an element of "abuse" in bonus play before they issue a bonus ban.

Casinos do not LIKE admitting that they will bonus ban players simply for being "lucky" over a medium to long term, so will often give evasive answers, or even outright lie to you.

I was outright lied to by one group, who pretended they weren't running their usual promo that week. When I proved this wrong (it was in the lobby;)) they said it was my spam filter. When I said I had none, they then found a "technical error" caused it not to be sent, and I got them back. No sooner had I cashed out again, the "technical error" reappeared, and I drew the rep out here in a thread, who alluded to it being due to my account being "unprofitable" if I continued to receive the bonuses, and the luck, as I was, at the time, 5000 UP:D
I was STILL receiving offers at their sister site, and eventually hit 5000 UP there too, and as expected, the offers ceased overnight:rolleyes:
 

yoshirules

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What I don't understand is why the RTG casinos give so many bonusses if you are not allowed to use it.
In my case I still get the promotional emails which I cant use :confused:
 

oldtrvlagt

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It happens all the time. I was never really successful with Club World but when Lucky Red opened I took the 400% bonus just to try them out. Played for two days...got down to $50 and played Aztec Millions and hit $1200 (4 ladies something)...$825 on T-Rex and at $5 a spin on Crystal Waters another $2000. Played a little more and cashed out about $4000...they took their bonus back and I haven't heard from them since. They are all the same IMO:rolleyes:
 

vinylweatherman

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I got the old bonus ban at Go Wild a while back, probably for being "too lucky" on the slots.

Every month or so, I drop 500 with NO bonus, to see if there is any truth in the "show loyalty without bonuses" argument.

I think not, but I just dropped them the November 500........


....and withdrew 2000, no bonus, no WR, and can play ANY GAME. My big wins were on VP and Table Poker.
:lolup::lolup:

Looks like I will be bonus banned there for some time to come:rolleyes:

I can at least see whether they STILL pay as fast for their "far too lucky for a bonus" players. Should be seeing it tomorrow if they do.
 

Bencuri

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Also I had this problem at iNet bet. I am bonus banned. Once I received a letter informing me. Heh... ridiculous. :mad:

I had the same thing with Inetbet. Mostly use the casinomeister tuesday coupons....won 3 times in a row. Now I am bonusbanned
 

iNetBet Promos

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Hi everyone,

Bencuri, If you are going to post you might want to say why you were excluded from promotions.

In the past 18 months you made 2 small deposited (on which deposit bonuses were applied) but you also claimed around 15 free chips. We explained to you that this was not the purpose of our chips. They are there to reward regular depositors and that should you start depositing again we would gladly remove the restriction.

This is the same for any player that may be told they are excluded from bonuses.

If players only deposit using a 100% bonus or more it simply is not viable for us. Misuse of the bonus program seriously effects our ability to reward our regular players.

We do not expect solely bonus advantage play. We ask that promotions be used as intended i.e to supplement, not to be the mainstay, of play.

If an exclusion is applied this is not permanent. Should we see some sustain non bonus play then we are glad to remove any restrictions.

I hope that this clarifies a few point for you.

Best Regards
iNetBet Promos
 

vinylweatherman

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Hi everyone,

Bencuri, If you are going to post you might want to say why you were excluded from promotions.

In the past 18 months you made 2 small deposited (on which deposit bonuses were applied) but you also claimed around 15 free chips. We explained to you that this was not the purpose of our chips. They are there to reward regular depositors and that should you start depositing again we would gladly remove the restriction.

This is the same for any player that may be told they are excluded from bonuses.

If players only deposit using a 100% bonus or more it simply is not viable for us. Misuse of the bonus program seriously effects our ability to reward our regular players.

We do not expect solely bonus advantage play. We ask that promotions be used as intended i.e to supplement, not to be the mainstay, of play.

If an exclusion is applied this is not permanent. Should we see some sustain non bonus play then we are glad to remove any restrictions.

I hope that this clarifies a few point for you.

Best Regards
iNetBet Promos

Not entirely, the RTG model is based on the concept of "you never need deposit without a bonus". Players of RTG casinos therefore EXPECT a bonus on every deposit.

Offering 100% on every deposit does NOT necessarily mean you have to lose money, you simply have to do the maths, and set appropriate terms for EVERY bonus on offer.

iNetBet is unusual for an RTG, in that the bonuses are CASHABLE. This DOES make a difference when calculating the correct WR to apply.

Low rollers may deposit only with one of the coupons simply because there are MORE coupons on offer than the funds they have available for playing online, so it only makes sense to use the coupons up first, and THEN perhaps deposit some more.

Other players have posted of experiences that do NOT fit with this reply, such as making MANY deposits without a bonus, yet STILL getting the bonus ban, others meanwhile, ONLY play with the bonuses, yet are NOT subject to a bonus ban. There is clearly more to this than is being admitted by operators.
 

bernynhel

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What I don't understand is why the RTG casinos give so many bonusses if you are not allowed to use it.
In my case I still get the promotional emails which I cant use :confused:


Continuing to email you offers for which you may or may not be eligible, filling your inbox with more crap you don't need, is FREE!

Purging the email address of a "bonus-banned" individual from promotional mailing lists, which may include tens of thousands of email addresses, apparantly, is not.
 

vinylweatherman

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Location
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Continuing to email you offers for which you may or may not be eligible, filling your inbox with more crap you don't need, is FREE!

Purging the email address of a "bonus-banned" individual from promotional mailing lists, which may include tens of thousands of email addresses, apparantly, is not.


Sometimes, it seems the ONLY way to stop receiving these emails is to close your account, and even this fails sometimes.

It seems there is simply no system in place to handle a "bonus banned" player in a courteous manner. It is therefore no wonder that "bonus banned" players feel slighted and "second class", as though they have done something wrong, but the casino can't pluck up the courage to ask them to leave. It's a bit like being at a party where everyone is making you feel unwelcome, but no-one has the b***s to tell you to your face.
 

Bencuri

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Well, it is true what you say. I checked your terms now. I didn't notice you have a 'how many times can be used' regulation for free chips. I see now you have. The only problem you placed it to the last line of your rules page in small letters. Well...:rolleyes:

So anyway, I don't need your assistance for resetting. There are much better casinos than yours, for example there are many that allows playing any games with the bonus. And some of these have cashable bonuses like yours. And better limits on table games. And they send me confirmation when I send them a copy if my IDs, unlike you, in spite of that they are not in the Accredited list here. :what:

And let me make a summary. I have acocunts at numerous RTGs. May RTGs are considered infamous. From all these, considering the infamous ones, I am only bonus banned at iNet bet. It makes me think...

Maybe if you wouldn't place that rule to the last line ;)




Hi everyone,

Bencuri, If you are going to post you might want to say why you were excluded from promotions.

In the past 18 months you made 2 small deposited (on which deposit bonuses were applied) but you also claimed around 15 free chips. We explained to you that this was not the purpose of our chips. They are there to reward regular depositors and that should you start depositing again we would gladly remove the restriction.

This is the same for any player that may be told they are excluded from bonuses.

If players only deposit using a 100% bonus or more it simply is not viable for us. Misuse of the bonus program seriously effects our ability to reward our regular players.

We do not expect solely bonus advantage play. We ask that promotions be used as intended i.e to supplement, not to be the mainstay, of play.

If an exclusion is applied this is not permanent. Should we see some sustain non bonus play then we are glad to remove any restrictions.

I hope that this clarifies a few point for you.

Best Regards
iNetBet Promos
 
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