Nickslots just got hit by Rizk limits mid stream!

[Kroffe]

Its really horrible how these streamers are being treated.

 

[dunover]

Its really horrible how these streamers are being treated.

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I tried my hand at streaming last week, amazing bonus, slots you cannot lose on and a multi-million x bet hits were flowing in!

 

[coolrunnings19]

2 pound online stake limit on it's way this year once they review the 2005 Gambling Act. Goodbye UK online sector. But many people play 20 40 60p stakes anyway so they will still play. Just the ones playing more than 2 pound a stake will either have to reduce the stake or not play!

 

[irish-ranger]

2 pound online stake limit on it's way this year once they review the 2005 Gambling Act. Goodbye UK online sector. But many people play 20 40 60p stakes anyway so they will still play. Just the ones playing more than 2 pound a stake will either have to reduce the stake or not play!

Obviously you have evidence to support this bollock??

 

[coolrunnings19]

That is what is proposed. Try reading what they are expecting to do. If you type in expected changes on Google to the Gambling Act that is what they are going to push for and it looks like it will go through. Been on the cards for a while, just like FOBTs were. They got delayed then came in. Changes are coming.

 

[colinsunderland]

That is what is proposed. Try reading what they are expecting to do. If you type in expected changes on Google to the Gambling Act that is what they are going to push for and it looks like it will go through. Been on the cards for a while, just like FOBTs were. They got delayed then came in. Changes are coming.

I very much doubt they will do that, it would be suicide for the UK gaming industry, and therefore for the UKGC too. I would be surprised if there was a single non uk bookmaker left operating in the UK in 5 years if they do that. They are also well aware it will just lead to people playing at unlicensed casinos

 

[coolrunnings19]

I can see your point and it is a valid one and something that they are aware of. It is a balancing act. They want people to play safely and they need to bring the legislation in line with the digital age. Too many suicides and too many problem gamblers. We can see how the NHS gets overwhelmed especially lately so they will have taken that into account too. This is something that is preventable and the NHS is a key player in the decision making process as is the commission and safer gambling organisations. They did it in the high street. They will do it online. They never shout about anything unless they want to do it. I suppose they will want 2 pounds max stake but they may have to fight to get it increased to 5 or 10 but keeping it at what it is with no limits will not happen. They will bring in monthly wagering limits as well. Unless you can prove you can afford to do 10 quid spins by showing you earn 200k a year then they may let you. If you are on 30k or 40k a year they won't let you do it and will cap players. Germany have brought in stake limits and they seem to be working. They got rid of credit cards. Nothing lasts forever, the casinos have had their day. Every sector does. Some casinos have already reduced the max stake on some games like Dead or Alive 2 by Netent is now 3 or 3.60 max stake so that is probably a sign that it is coming sooner rather than later

 

[shadow123]

Positive we will have £2 stake limit this year, makes sense that they will take the simplistic view that online stakes should
be the same as high st bookies and arcades.Unfortunately it will kill the online market stone dead if it is applied to table games
as well as slots.

 

[coolrunnings19]

I don't think it can be applied to table games. How would people play them? I know roulette if you go more than 2 pounds it gives you a bar and if you land in the green section it gives you a spin. What will happen to big bets like 20 30 40 50 pounds high rollers? They will either just go or you can spin a 2 pound stake to see if you get entry into it. But I think that would defeat the point. I can't see why online wouldn't mirror in shops. That is their aim. But people seem to forget you can soon go through a couple of thousand in an hour or so just by doing 2 pound a stake. They are also thinking about 30 seconds between each spin but that would be a bit too much!

 

[09237653]

Rizk are the pettiest casino I know of, I deposited 30 cashed out 45 and next day account locked and must prove source of wealth for a £30 deposit, I spent more than that on a takeaway the other day and the Chinese restaurant didn't ask for id or wage slips or anything.

anyhow the short of it : screw rizk stay away from these jokers.

 

[coolrunnings19]

And they don't think max stake limit will be lowered to 2 quid ono? The casinos will just go to other jurisdictions that is all that will happen. The UKGC will still have a lot of work to do as many will stay as they will still provide a service. Just think 15 years ago there were just land based bookies and casinos. If someone wants to eat big go to a land based casino. Easy. Online needs to be regulated more as there is nobody to monitor what you are doing on your own in your room and they can't intervene. In shops staff look at body language behaviour...and can intervene. That is why they will bring in 2 pound max online been on the cards for ages. They are lucky it hasn't happened already.

 

[Kenji85]

In shops staff look at body language behaviour...and can intervene.

Do they though? In UK I mean?

I ask purely out of curiosity.

I've definitely walked into bookies in Ireland at11am placed my days bets and returned at 6pm to collect to see the same persons there punting on virtual dogs,car racing,soccer. Whatever is off next.

I've never once seen a staff member intervene even though it's obvious said persons must be chasing and losing beyond their means at some point. Its not possible to stay all day every day and win.

I know the FOBTs in UK are a big bone of contention. It's not so much the case here as all betting terminals are for sports betting only and often capped at less than they'll take over the counter.
Anyway rambling post over

 

[colinsunderland]

And they don't think max stake limit will be lowered to 2 quid ono? The casinos will just go to other jurisdictions that is all that will happen. The UKGC will still have a lot of work to do as many will stay as they will still provide a service. Just think 15 years ago there were just land based bookies and casinos. If someone wants to eat big go to a land based casino. Easy. Online needs to be regulated more as there is nobody to monitor what you are doing on your own in your room and they can't intervene. In shops staff look at body language behaviour...and can intervene. That is why they will bring in 2 pound max online been on the cards for ages. They are lucky it hasn't happened already.

What happened with you dispute with Broadway Gaming?

 

[EkJR]

It's either £2 stakes or they will start making it even harder. There is so much pressure on them to act due to the fact the industry was basically unregulated for years and has caused a public health issue!

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Limiting to £2 stake would be a massive drop of the ball by the UKGC (there have been a few already). They are like the parasite that are determined to kill the host that feeds them.

If I deposit £50 it should be solely my decision whether I do 10 £5 spins or 100 50p ones. My money, my choice.

 

[colinsunderland]

It's either £2 stakes or they will start making it even harder. There is so much pressure on them to act due to the fact the industry was basically unregulated for years and has caused a public health issue!

I am positive it won't be £2. FOTB's are different to online in that FOTB max win is £500, it isn't online.
There will be more restrictions but I'm certain there won't be a blanket £2 max stake across everything.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Christ I hope nobody decides to have a try at slots after watching that thinking thats possible.

Edit: My morning posting is getting worse. Ive posted this in the wrong bloomin thread. (weird wiggle smile emoji)

 

[Slottery]

Would be really interesting to see new record of nannyism and £2 max bet for everything, from lottery to sports Happily for people who want to to keep their slotting and betting there are more and more options outside of certain regulation if these regulations get ridicilous.

 

[coolrunnings19]

What happened with you dispute with Broadway Gaming?

Hello mate hope you had a good new year!! Still ongoing i am afraid! UKGC not said anything either!

 

[coolrunnings19]

Do they though? In UK I mean?

I ask purely out of curiosity.

I've definitely walked into bookies in Ireland at11am placed my days bets and returned at 6pm to collect to see the same persons there punting on virtual dogs,car racing,soccer. Whatever is off next.

I've never once seen a staff member intervene even though it's obvious said persons must be chasing and losing beyond their means at some point. Its not possible to stay all day every day and win.

I know the FOBTs in UK are a big bone of contention. It's not so much the case here as all betting terminals are for sports betting only and often capped at less than they'll take over the counter.
Anyway rambling post over

I have seen staff ask people on FOBTs to calm down and then leave if they get baf. I have also seen people been told they can't load anymore money on machines. I have also seen people being told to go out and get some food as they have been on there for hours. Some do tell you but not all, but at home you get nobody to oversee anything.

 

[coolrunnings19]

I am positive it won't be £2. FOTB's are different to online in that FOTB max win is £500, it isn't online.
There will be more restrictions but I'm certain there won't be a blanket £2 max stake across everything.

Well if they bring it down to 2 pounds then the max win will have to be 500 too surely? Unless they change that aswell? I doubt they will allow max stake at more than 5 or even 10 at a push. I dont think the MPs will allow it and they will have the final say. The people on that front are pretty much against it all anyway so they will push hard. The fear is obviously unregulated casinos being turned to by punters!

 

[Louforbes85]

Rizk are the pettiest casino I know of, I deposited 30 cashed out 45 and next day account locked and must prove source of wealth for a £30 deposit, I spent more than that on a takeaway the other day and the Chinese restaurant didn't ask for id or wage slips or anything.

anyhow the short of it : screw rizk stay away from these jokers.

They did this to me just before Christmas, I sent them a wage slip that more than covers the poultry sum I deposited with them (less than £50 a month), they then wanted 6 months bank statements totally unredacted and all my PayPal transactions, needless to say I told them to whistle and closed my account. Last time I checked I'm in my (almost) late 30s and a fully fledged grown up. I would rather not play.

 

[colinsunderland]

Well if they bring it down to 2 pounds then the max win will have to be 500 too surely? Unless they change that aswell? I doubt they will allow max stake at more than 5 or even 10 at a push. I dont think the MPs will allow it and they will have the final say. The people on that front are pretty much against it all anyway so they will push hard. The fear is obviously unregulated casinos being turned to by punters!

no, my point was that max win is £500, so betting £100 means the max you can win is 5 x stake, whereas online betting £100 on say Book Of Ra, you could win half a million. I'm not saying there will no max stake, but would be very surprised if it's £2.

 

[colinsunderland]

They did this to me just before Christmas, I sent them a wage slip that more than covers the poultry sum I deposited with them (less than £50 a month), they then wanted 6 months bank statements totally unredacted and all my PayPal transactions, needless to say I told them to whistle and closed my account. Last time I checked I'm in my (almost) late 30s and a fully fledged grown up. I would rather not play.

Yep, Rizk seem to be the new Casumo. I would advise people to stay away from them now.

 

[coolrunnings19]

no, my point was that max win is £500, so betting £100 means the max you can win is 5 x stake, whereas online betting £100 on say Book Of Ra, you could win half a million. I'm not saying there will no max stake, but would be very surprised if it's £2.

Yes mate I see your point, and it is a valid one. Nobody would play 100 a spin just to win x5 jackpot. I don't think the max stake will be max 100 pounds though. 2 pounds would be obviously reasonable but if they want to say set thr jackpot at x200 then perhaps a 5 pounds max stake so that the jackpot is 1000 pounds? The problem for them is the higher they set the jackpot the more people will play them and then encounter issues once more. I spoke to a couple of guys from Latvia and they said that the machines in this country are very good as they are just 500 jackpot. In Latvia they are much higher and the higher they are the more people will spend. Here if the jackpot is 500 the normal person will put say 50 quid in and think if I get it, then it is a x10 profit overall (if they are lucky). I should imagine the max stake will be agreed on somewhere between 2 and 10. It would be surprising if it was 10 or 2 but it still could be. It is a strange world we live in!