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New York Moves to Restrict Welfare Money Being Gambled

Discussion in 'Political Rants' started by harrys99, Jun 22, 2012.

    Jun 22, 2012
  1. harrys99

    harrys99 Dormant account

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    Seems like New York has a lot going on. 10 other states including mine already have some legislation in place.

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  2. Jun 22, 2012
  3. EdieD

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    definitely agree with this!
     
  4. Jun 22, 2012
  5. secret2

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    Good article and it brings many variances to this issue...the thing is , when people are in need of Welfare many people are brought to their knees...it's from poverty level (no kids) to poverty level (many kids) depends on where you live and which state and the help from certain gvernment services.

    The poorer parts of the USA are filled with fast-food places, cash-checking places, 24 hour Keno places, and 1080 Old English beer is sold...24/7....and why not live the 'Big dream'....it sucks...etc..

    When some people are just 'broke' spiritually, financially, emotionally and without help...then this is what happens...it is so sad and I see it every day on my driving route.

    Of course there is more to this story and many variances...
     
  6. Jun 22, 2012
  7. max1mike

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    who decided it was a good idea to allow the "food stamps" card be used at an atm to withdraw cash???

    not that it would matter anyway, food is being sold "in the hood" to locals grocers by people who buy it with their "benefits" (benefits my ass, benefits from their years of working??? ) for half price.

    IDIOT:
    ""It's a prejudice, I think, about poor people that we are seeing represented more than any statistical or study of behavior," said Sen. Bill Perkins, a Harlem Democat and one of the few senators to vote against the measure. "If they have evidence that there's a rash of that, I'd like to see it.""

    Well, Bill. pull your head out of your ass and have a look around at reality. maybe you'd see what was going on. dick.
     
  8. Jun 22, 2012
  9. harrys99

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    Appreciate the responses-I know it is a touchy subject.

    As with everything the rotten apples spoil the bunch for the few who are truly in need.

    I used to run the Wal-mart accounting dept at night as a second job-unbelievable things that go on.

    Buy your eggs, allowable plastic beverages etc. Go out back, smash your eggs, put holes in your plastic bottles-come back in to customer service and return said items because they are "damaged goods"

    Purchases on EBT plastic card then returned for cash. I guess there are always ways to beat the system.:eek:
     
  10. Jun 22, 2012
  11. secret2

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    Ohhhh absolutly there are many people who know how to abuse the system!! and trust me, Jim and I know...'disability' for one...people scamming the system...we were under the microscope, videotaped every day...because my husband had 5 crushed vertebrae...10 years ago and now permanently disabled but tool 2 years to get any disablity because of 'idiots' that scam the system.....:mad: We had to through bankruptcy because of 'idiots'....it does make my blood boil

    BUT there the rest, too, that suffer...and suffer because of idiots!!!

    Trust me...I am ,mad but I also see the other side of innocent people struggling..as we did.
     
  12. Jun 22, 2012
  13. max1mike

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    it shouldn't be a touchy subject at all. everyone should be outraged that foodstamp money is being used to go to the casino.

    we are being fleeced to no end by those that manipulate the system, and billdouche wants to stick up for them? horseshit.

    I don't have "hoffman" money by any means, in fact I'm laid off and pretty piss poor right now, but..we have food.

    people who are scamming the system piss me off to no end.

    now this Bill douche thinks its "prejudice"???

    FU Bill.
     
  14. Jun 22, 2012
  15. secret2

    secret2 irishbrit62 MM

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    Excuse my spelling, etc..I was mad...:)
     
  16. Jun 22, 2012
  17. max1mike

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    its funny that this even needs to be regulated.

    some day, I am going to punch the foodstamp/welfare reciepiant in line in front of me at the grocery store.

    while I'm doing my damndest to figure out healthy, full meals for my wife and kids, I have to wait, while the (always) overweight person in front of me pays for their potato chips, cupcakes, and candy with foodstamps.

    nothing in their carts to make a meal...always garbage.
     
  18. Jun 22, 2012
  19. harrys99

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    I put legitimate disability and unemployment in a different catagory. Bad things happen to some really good people and been there done that myself.

    Kudos to you Secret and Max1Mike. Bet you never asked your fellow citizens to foot your gambling bills.
     
  20. Jun 22, 2012
  21. harrys99

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    And the baby drinking soda out of a sippy cup.

    Yea that's what I meant/saw when working at Wally world. Saw that crap ALL THE TIME!!!!! I always wanted to say something but where do you even begin. I could only handle it for so long and that was the first and only job that I just up and quit.
     
  22. Jun 22, 2012
  23. Pocketdiggers77

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    No doubt there are plenty ways around this. Back when there were actual food stamps people would come in and buy meat/steaks and sell them. Or sell the food stamps for money at a cut rate. No way to stop the funds from eventually being used for gambling but I agree something needs to be done to prevent someone from using a foodstamp card at the ATM. It reminds me of the Katrina cards that were being used at strip clubs and 5 star hotels to buy Dom Perignon.
     
  24. Jun 22, 2012
  25. harrys99

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    Pocketdiggers, had not heard this specifically. FEMA must have issued cards and then they were misused? Ugh sad....sad...sad
     
  26. Jun 22, 2012
  27. Pocketdiggers77

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  28. Jun 22, 2012
  29. harrys99

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    thank you:thumbsup:
     
  30. Jun 23, 2012
  31. ksech

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    Don't even get me going :mad: Look at some of these "kids" on welfare with their 2 or 3 kids, the tatooes (they aren't cheap!!!) and they get EVERY freakin' benefit available!!!

    Since December of 2010 I've suffered 4 strokes. In February of 2011 they angioplastied the middle cerebral artery of the brain as I had 70% occlussion. March of this year I had 2 stents put in my heart ( I had a 70% and a 95% blockage to the left artery). I've been struggling to work 2-3 days a week as I've been on a restricted work schedule since all this started. I don't qualify for disablity benefits, I don't qualify for ANY social service benefits because I'm able to work 2-3 days a week. I lost my health insurance at the end of last year so I am facing medical bills close to $250,000.

    I've had to cash in all my life insurance policies and my 401k to live off. I'm 52 years old and the future doesn't look so golden. I still get up every day, go to work, and pay what I can each week. I will leave nothing for my children or my grandchildren except , hopefully, some good memories and lots of love.
     
  32. Jun 23, 2012
  33. harrys99

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    I just wanted to tell you WOW that's a really unfortunate situation your in. When you think things aren't so great you realize that there are people who have it worse, I really feel for you! Give you a lot of credit for working at all and hope that your health improves. Guessing you got socked with early withdrawal penalties and taxes on your 401k also. Is chapter 13 not an option?
     
  34. Jun 25, 2012
  35. ksech

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    Yeah, paid big taxes last year for early withdrawals on everything. It sucks big time. Have decided to go back to work full time (against doctors' orders) next month. Sitting around being nonproductive stewing about everything is just as stressful as working in my opinion. Maybe not working 60-70 hours like I was, but at least 35 -40 hrs. I've only been working 14-18 hours a week for the last year, barely enough to keep afloat. I'm tired of trying to make ends meet each month without trying to figure out how I'm going to pay for gas to put in the vehicle or put food on the table.

    The problem is, we were taught to be honest. We go to work, we pay our taxes. We play the game by the rules. When it comes to serious health issues, we get screwed because we don't know how to work the system to get the benefits we deserve and have worked for. Everything we've worked for goes to those who have never worked a day in their lives or who come over here with their hands held out looking for freebies.

    I watched some young "woman" in the grocery store the other day, paying with food stamps. She had over $200 worth of "food" and was ticked off when she had to pay the cashier $20 out of her own pocket. Most of the stuff she had purchased wasn't even healthy food:mad:, snack foods, soda, cookies and crackers, ice cream stuff, frozen pizzas... And there I stood in line with my 5 items which were going to feed me for three days. Seriously, I probably wouldn't have been so angry if the majority of her items had been fresh produce, meats and healthy snacks for her kids instead of "garbage foods".

    And to look at her, covered in her body art and piercings, with her three young ones all under the age of nine or ten. My tax money is going to support her! She can afford the tats and piercings, but bitches cause she has to pay $20 in the grocery store...there is most definitely something WRONG with our government!!!!
     
  36. Jun 25, 2012
  37. harrys99

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    Would like to thank your post-but can't do it in this section-agree and empathize with what you said and the things you have seen:thumbsup:
     
  38. Jun 25, 2012
  39. ksech

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    If worse comes to worse (it's a pride thing) I'll end up filing bankrupcy. I'm far from being a negative person (at least I've never considered myself that way :rolleyes:), I've always gotten back up fighting. This time it's just taking longer than usual, I'm not a very good "patient" lmao. As I told the doctor, "You supposedly fixed the problem, I should be feeling better now. Right? Well, it's been 3 months and I feel worse than before you put the stents in. I quit smoking for a month and I felt like utter crap, I started coughing all the time (which I never did when I smoked), I had difficulty breathing, so I started smoking again. You've put me on all these pills and now I'm experiencing all of these side effects for which you've prescribed MORE pills. Is this all really necessary? The Plavix you have me on won't allow my blood to clot which is good for the stents, but the first major side effect is high risk of stroke and heart attack(!)WTF!!!! But not to worry I'm now on a blood pressure medicine which will help lower the risk for the stroke and heart attack (but this medicine has a side effect which causes kidney disease (YAY!!!) and the cycle goes on and on..."

    So, we go to these PROFESSIONALS, only because we aren't professionals ourselves. We are unable to cure ourselves and are TRUSTING that they are going to fix us correctly. The problem IS...physicians have this thing going with the pharmecuatical companies. Prescribe so much you get a kickback yadda yadda yadda. Now, you want real answers to your medical questions, go ask the nurse!;)
     

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