New Webcast: Playtech Progressive Jackpot Scandal

[The Dude]

Read the terms and condition, folks!!

 

[Dinahnana]

I rarely play Playtake slots but when I do it's usually at Paddy Power or the other big bookies. That way in the unlikely event that I win the jackpot I won't run into any trouble. I do wish Playtech would take a more active interest in what their casinos do; for example last time I checked the rogue RTG outfits don't have system wide RTG jackpots like Cleopatra etc.

Playtech's attitude of we are just the software providers have turned many seasoned players against their brand in my opinion. Not a good business model if you ask me.

 

[Keith Addy]

This made me think about Nektan casinos i know they don't have Playtech slots but have many progressive slots.They have a bonus where you can only win x4 of your bonus value so imagine if you won a progressive jackpot of 8 million to find you only won £4oo pounds not a good situation.I bet theer are other casinos that have those terms.

 

[lotusch]

I rarely play Playtake slots but when I do it's usually at Paddy Power or the other big bookies. That way in the unlikely event that I win the jackpot I won't run into any trouble. I do wish Playtech would take a more active interest in what their casinos do; for example last time I checked the rogue RTG outfits don't have system wide RTG jackpots like Cleopatra etc.

Playtech's attitude of we are just the software providers have turned many seasoned players against their brand in my opinion. Not a good business model if you ask me.

Actually gave them a bash 2 days ago at Paddy Power as I was doing my weekly lotto and football bets and I do like the Age of Gods series but God almighty how hard is it to trigger the FS on any of them.
Had to put in 400 Quid and walked away with 450 Quid so I made 50 after all but damnit, very dangerous slots but I do like them.

When it comes to their progressive jackpot system,never ever triggered the JP game and I have played up to €4.00 bets on their JP linked slots.

 

[lotusch]

Read the terms and condition, folks!!

Great wee video Bryan...Hope many many people will see it and will avoid these rogue outfits that run Playtech slots.
They don't deserve even a penny...
And why is Playtech not pro actively monitoring and checking the parties that they do business with...
This tarnishes their name greatly too...

If I would be CEO of Playtech I would dump each and every dodgy casino from the client list.
Better have 100 trustworthy casino's running your games than 5000 rogue ones.

From a business perspective I do not understand them at all.

 

[betrulzz]

never will play on winner our any playtech casino .

 

[dunover]

Great wee video Bryan...Hope many many people will see it and will avoid these rogue outfits that run Playtech slots.
They don't deserve even a penny...
And why is Playtech not pro actively monitoring and checking the parties that they do business with...
This tarnishes their name greatly too...

If I would be CEO of Playtech I would dump each and every dodgy casino from the client list.
Better have 100 trustworthy casino's running your games than 5000 rogue ones.

From a business perspective I do not understand them at all.

That's the trouble though mate - Playtech have heavy Swizz-rael involvement as do many of the rogue PT casinos. Whether you put 2+2 together and make 4 or 5 is up to you....

 

[lockinlove]

I thought you were going to chug the beer at the end

 

[Tirilej]

That's the trouble though mate - Playtech have heavy Swizz-rael involvement as do many of the rogue PT casinos. Whether you put 2+2 together and make 4 or 5 is up to you....

It seems like there is no Israeli owned/controlled casinos that's ok then? If there is then please tell me. It doesn't seem to matter much how regulated and licensed any casino are if those that's in control only cares about money=(are from Israel).

 

[dunover]

It seems like there is no Israeli owned/controlled casinos that's ok then? If there is then please tell me. It doesn't seem to matter much how regulated and licensed any casino are if those that's in control only cares about money=(are from Israel).

It's a combination of two things - bad business practices, ethics and overall philosophy which are alien to the way we do things in the West and downright criminality in many cases whether via rogue casinos or scamming/skimming affiliate programmes. As Swizz-rael is outside the EU they are away from jurisdiction of our civil court systems and virtually untouchable. As Bryan said once 80% of all fraud in casino world stems from there, I'd say more personally. In some cases crooks from there have been extradited to face trial in the US or EU but it's an expensive and difficult process.

The problem stems from the crooks having little or no assets in places like the UK that any normal companies would risk losing if ripping people off. The UKGC and MGA need to look into this and start making rules about owners and affiliate programmes being located and holding all their assets in the EU or UK.

For example Ladbrokes have allowed their affiliate programme to be taken over by Swizz-rael and moved there, Active Wins (Betfred/Prospect Hall etc.) is too and unlike all other Income Access users AW seem to have e-mail me fortnightly with various 'reporting issues' that are always blamed on the software 'so your stats may be updated in the next few days' - I wouldn't trust them an inch.

Here's the latest BS: (probably haven't finished the detagging and skimming yet)

 

[syntynyt]

It seems like there is no Israeli owned/controlled casinos that's ok then? If there is then please tell me. It doesn't seem to matter much how regulated and licensed any casino are if those that's in control only cares about money=(are from Israel).

there is one. accredited.
https://www.casinomeister.com/online-casinos/reviews/casino-cruise/

First Impression

Lloyd Apter is the Chief Marketing Officer and has a huge influence on how this casino is run. I’ve known Lloyd professionally for over a decade and can attest that he is conscientious, fair, and whose business ethics are unquestionably rock solid.

shall i number the casino cruise threads of past year with genuine complaintds
i suggest to Bryan to eliminate the word 'fair' from that desscription since he took up the lowest available rtp of play n go portfolio

 

[Tirilej]

there is one. accredited.
https://www.casinomeister.com/online-casinos/reviews/casino-cruise/

First Impression

Lloyd Apter is the Chief Marketing Officer and has a huge influence on how this casino is run. I’ve known Lloyd professionally for over a decade and can attest that he is conscientious, fair, and whose business ethics are unquestionably rock solid.

shall i number the casino cruise threads of past year with genuine complaintds
i suggest to Bryan to eliminate the word 'fair' from that desscription since he took up the lowest available rtp of play n go portfolio

We have questioned why that casino is still accredited for a long time now. Maybe Bryan thinks it's better to have them on that list so they are forced to pay players and deal with complaints. Otherwise there would be no control at all.

Lloyd is a good guy, but I don't think he's working for them anymore. Look at the last date he was here.
As long as you know the RTP you can chose to not play those games.

 

[The Dude]

...
If I would be CEO of Playtech I would dump each and every dodgy casino from the client list.
Better have 100 trustworthy casino's running your games than 5000 rogue ones...

I was in direct contact with the CEO when this all went down - he brought the issue to the board of directors and they came to the conclusion that she had agreed to the 9K per month payout. There wasn't anything they would do.

We have questioned why that casino is still accredited for a long time now. Maybe Bryan thinks it's better to have them on that list so they are forced to pay players and deal with complaints. Otherwise there would be no control at all.

Lloyd is a good guy, but I don't think he's working for them anymore. Look at the last date he was here.
As long as you know the RTP you can chose to not play those games.

Thanks for the reminder. There have been some changes - and I will probably be getting involved with this next week. I've been pretty busy lately.

 

[MartiniMan]

Played at Grand Reef a few times. Had one small withdrawal $250, took over 3 weeks to receive it. Stopped playing after that. Progressives aren't my cup of tea. Doesn't affect me now with Playtech and others banning Australian players. Good lesson learned to read the terms, rules and so on in future.

 

[duty_bound]

I have in the past noticed this in some casinos' T&C and contacted Customer Care about it. They always reply that although the T&Cs say that there is a limit of, let's say €10K per month, in case of a progressive jackpot win the full amount will be paid.

But, such a chat, even if recorded, has no legal standing! Its the T&Cs that matter! The black on white stuff is important stuff. Do not trust anything else other than what is on the T&Cs: employees leave casinos, as do managers, or your personal account manager, but its the T&Cs that stand at the end of the day.

CM is right and well done CM for this video!