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New Rushmore Casino? - Liberty Bell Casino

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by thenry14, Oct 22, 2014.

    Oct 22, 2014
  1. thenry14

    thenry14 Experienced Member PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    This and that
    Location:
    UK
    Seems like there is a new RTG casino owned by Rushmore. They have a seperate affiliate scheme at supremecommissions dot com and the casino website is libertybellcasino dot com. I only found out they were linked to Rushmore when I deposited via skrill and the payment was sent to Isagro Holdings Ltd (jonathan@rushmoregaming.com).

    Just a heads up for the players here, been waiting over a month and still cannot withdraw. Emails are getting delivered as I keep getting the automated tracking numbers. :(
     
    19 people like this.
  2. Oct 23, 2014
  3. K2C

    K2C Experienced Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    Data analyst
    Location:
    USA
    These guys have certainly went out of their way to conceal their affiliation with Rushmore Group.

    1. Set up 4 phone numbers exclusively for the casino

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    All four do not show up on any other sites.

    2. Hosted it at a different server

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    3. They, however, registered their domain with same registrar

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    but that does not tell us much as it is a big registrar.

    4. They also use separate chat support. As of writing this message Chat at Liberty Bell is offline (leave a message), while it is online for all Rushmore sites.
    And of course they deny any affiliation with Liberty Bell in this chat


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    5. The texts were rewritten too. However there is a couple of things they missed.

    One in Banking:

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    Let's google it:

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    Another one in FAQ

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    Let's google it too.

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    Oh, those crooks.
     
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  4. Oct 24, 2014
  5. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    The most damning connection though is the receipt seen on Skrill. US players won't see this because they can't use Skrill, and they are trying to deter non US players by not letting them take part in any promotions unless they use a "US style" deposit method, which will no doubt be cloaking the connection.

    It does look like this is a deceit aimed at the US players who are avoiding Rushmore and any sites known to be related to it because of their poor reputation. It's not the first time they have used deception in order to boost deposits either. They NEED the deposits coming in so that they can pay withdrawals, and they want to pay sufficient withdrawals to keep their problems out of sight of their main player base. These Liberty Bell deposits are all going to Rushmore, and are probably being used to pay existing Rushmore group players. Liberty Bell could be a problem in the making, because if the money is flowing out to Rushmore players, there might not be enough left to pay Liberty Bell players, and this new brand will quickly end up with a bad reputation. When the unpaid players discover they have been duped into depositing into a Rushmore skin, they are going to get pretty angry.
     
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  6. Oct 24, 2014
  7. K2C

    K2C Experienced Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    Data analyst
    Location:
    USA
    Good point. That is the likely reason why they did not bother to register a separate Skrill account. US players can't use is, other players are not their target audience, and also probably won't use it for bonus reasons. So what are the odds someone would notice, leave alone post it on a public forum? :)

    Nice find, OP.
     
  8. Oct 24, 2014
  9. bigjohn

    bigjohn Meister Member MM PABnoaccred

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    Northeast Coastal USA
    On this forum, pretty good I reckon! Sharp lads here.
     
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  10. Dec 17, 2014
  11. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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  12. Dec 19, 2014
  13. Googobucs

    Googobucs Meister Member

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    IT Manager
    Location:
    Florida, USA
    Guess who's calling now

    Just walked in the door from work and phone is ringing....Guess who?

    I asked, " How did you get my number? I don't have an account with you." I was told that I had signed up for a free chip.... blah blah blah.

    The I remembered this great detective work from this post and KK's post.

    I said, Oh yeah; I know who you are. Your related to Rushmore right? Of course the answer was a big no, and I pushed. Sure you are. I was very polite and told him no thanks but as soon as I mentioned Rushmore I could almost tell the poor guy on the other end of the phone was turning green and could not wait for the call to end.

    Good detective work guys. :thumbsup:
     
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  14. Mar 10, 2015
  15. Webzcas

    Webzcas Winter is Coming! Staff Member

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    They have just contacted me out of the blue via PM on my OCR Facebook page. Gave it away with the Skype address markco.rushmore. Did a quick google on liberty bell casino and what do you know. Landed on this thread. Hence bringing it back to life.
     
  16. Mar 10, 2015
  17. SlotsLover

    SlotsLover Senior Member PABnorogue PABnononaccred3 MM PABinit PABaccred

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    teacher
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    California
    For what it's worth

    Just my experience with them. I have been playing them for a number of months now and have 3 cashouts of almost $6000 that have been paid in a reasonably (for US standards) timely manner back to my credit card. I have found their customer service to be excellent. Just wanted to share, not endorse.
     
  18. Mar 10, 2015
  19. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG

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    Breathing
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    Sweden
    Did you know they belonged to that group then, because if you didn't then I can understand it?

    If you did know I think it's sad because how they have behaved here, how they have treated both players and affiliates, they don't deserve to exist.
    I do hope that noone after reading your post think that they are worth to try, just because you think they are ok.

    There are a lot of threads here that tells the truth about them.
     
  20. Mar 10, 2015
  21. SlotsLover

    SlotsLover Senior Member PABnorogue PABnononaccred3 MM PABinit PABaccred

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    Location:
    California
    didn't know then

    I didn't know when I signed up and started playing that they were related to Rushmore. I asked them on chat if they were related to any other online casinos, and, of course they denied any relations. However, since I've started playing, I've had a great experience there and am so far very happy. I've had good luck, am ahead some money, and are enjoying their service and promotions. I'll be the first to let this forum know if I run into a problem (not because I want help, but as a public service announcement). Just wanted to relay my experiences there.

    PS: I have to admit, I'm just so disgusted with all the max bet rules and max cashout rules that when I see a casino with none of these rules, I get a little overzealous maybe. So far, I've been relatively lucky with payouts and do realize that if I'm not playing the accredited casinos, I have a good chance of running into a problem.
     
  22. Mar 10, 2015
  23. BMWSTACK

    BMWSTACK Ueber Meister

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    Have you succesfully withdrawn? That is the largest part of a "good casino experience". All of the smoke and mirrors of good customer service and wins can be done succesfully by the roguest of rogues. Some of the best wins on RTG are achieved at rogues because they will either never pay you or send $500 every once in a while until you play back your balance.
     
  24. Mar 11, 2015
  25. SlotsLover

    SlotsLover Senior Member PABnorogue PABnononaccred3 MM PABinit PABaccred

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    teacher
    Location:
    California
    Yes, I have received approx 6000 from them in installments of 2000 per week.
     

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