New RTG - Casino Beach - Proceed with Caution

winbig

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I just received an email from ReeferPoker last night about a new casino called "Casino Beach"...how original. :rolleyes:

They're offering a $25 ND bonus, but check out the T&C for it:

These "free trial dollars" do not qualify for major game prizes, promotions or chat game credits (bingo), and winnings from this offer are capped at $50. To make a withdrawal you must first deposit a minimum of $50 and wager it 40 times on valid games only. (If you claim a deposit bonus on your first deposit the wagering requirements for both bonuses will be added together and any bonus funds remaining in your account will be removed on withdrawal.

:what:

Ok, so basically all this "ND" offer is, is a 100% bonus up to $50, with a maximum cashout of $50. Which has to be wagered 40x. I couldn't even find what the WR are for the 200% SUB. But instead, I read the T&C and the WR are added on top of the ND WR's if you claim the SUB when you make the $50 deposit to claim your "winnings" from the ND chip. :what:

and wait! It gets better!!!

7.3 Annuities

Individual or aggregate withdrawals in excess of USD 1,000.00 per month will be paid in separate, monthly installments of USD 1,000.00. Depending on your Account history, we may, at our sole discretion, choose to raise this annuity limit in your favor.

By way of example, if you requested a USD 5,000.00 withdrawal (either through a single withdrawal or in multiple withdrawals), you would be paid USD 1,000.00 every subsequent calendar month until the entirety of the withdrawal has been made.

:lolup: :lolup: :lolup: :lolup:

$1,000 a week? wtf? I see RTG is still licensing any Tom, Dick or Harry. If they can't afford more than $1,000 a month to players, then they're in the wrong business.

and yes! there's more! :D

This casino is also related to Saturn Bingo. I ran across this thread, which shows that they (saturn bingo) impose a 15x max cashout on each and every deposit..............

https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...terms-include-a-15x-wr-on-all-deposits.32520/

proof: Click on the T&C link from their promotions page (xxxhttp://www.casinobeach.com/promotions/promotions.html), then click on the live chat button on the 10,000 item (I'm not shitting you, it's a huge list of T&C) page on the top right hand side of the page. Once it times out and says operators are busy, reload the page a few times and you'll eventually get:

Support is currently unattended. Please submit an email to [email protected] and it will be attended to ASAP - thankyou


If anyone else wants to chime in with more details about how this place may end up in the rogue pit over time, then feel free to do some sleuthing on your own. :thumbsup:


edit: OOOOOoooOOOOooOOOOOooo I forgot the BEST PART!!

They only process withdrawals ONE DAY A WEEK, and not even a full day, at that!!!!! Their processing department only works 15 hours a week, and only for one day.

Provided that you have completed any documentation requirements as stipulated in Section 7.1, withdrawal requests will be processed once a week on Monday at 15:00 to Tuesday at 06:00.

:lolup:
 

Nate

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Lol.. Thanks for the post...

The weird T&C's Casinos come up with....

$1000 a MONTH?

:lolup:

If u deposit $1500 and break even, u cant even withdraw your own deposit... Sick sick sick puppies
 

Rusty

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I have given you an award for finding a casino that has managed to include a comprehensive A to Z of rogue T&C's. What a crap hole!
AVOID Beach Casino

ps. Personally I would not advise proceeding at all - let alone with caution (title)
 

lnspin

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Pretty soon a casino is going to come out and tell us we can only deposit, as much as we want, but they will be no payouts, just playing for fun with real money
 

darkpixie

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The comedy in that is that virtually anyone could open a 'Fun Play' Casino. All you are selling is entertainment as it is then no longer gambling :)
 

Pinababy69

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I've got a whopper of a story to tell regarding a casino associated with these guys...1Club Casino. Once I put it all together, I'll post it. I think it may be a nominee for Worst Player Experience of the Year when the CM Awards roll around in January.

But Winbig's advice in the original post is extremely sound. I have railed against Virtual for years now, as have many others.

Please believe me when I say that this casino/group, is every bit as bad as Virtual, if not worse. They are a nightmare.

Avoid 1Club Casino, Casino Beach, Reefer Casino and any others they may be involved with, like they are the plague.
 

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The only comment I have on this casino is that they are telling you upfront that you are gonna get screwed instead of doing it afterwards.
 

Mavin1

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I am so glad I quit gambling, this kind of stuff is just unreal!

They're offering a $25 ND bonus, but check out the T&C for it:


Quote:
These "free trial dollars" do not qualify for major game prizes, promotions or chat game credits (bingo), and winnings from this offer are capped at $50. To make a withdrawal you must first deposit a minimum of $50 and wager it 40 times on valid games only. (If you claim a deposit bonus on your first deposit the wagering requirements for both bonuses will be added together and any bonus funds remaining in your account will be removed on withdrawal.



The way I read it, is they give you $25 with a playthrough, but in the off chance you get lucky and make the playthrough, you can cash out $50, but, in order to cash out the $50, you have to deposit at least $50 of your own money and wager your own money 40x!!!!
Which is probably the WR of Death!

What and ingenious idea, not brilliant, but ingenious! :D

Finally the next generation of online casinos that allow the consumer to pay them for the privilege of downloading their casino, oh my gosh, they'll make a fortune with the constant endless numbers of new signees. Geesh and to think I quit gambling and will miss out on all this fun! :rolleyes:

I agree with Rusty on the nominate as it will save hopefully countless players a lot of misery. Good catch!
 

winbig

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Does anyone remember some of the old, old, old casinos that required you to make a deposit when you were registering your account?

damn, I feel old, now. :cool:
 

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People will be knocking the doors down trying to get that thousand a month. are you sure they're not just messing with us since we tear them apart at times? Sometimes it seems so ridiculous it's got to be a joke. And thats one of them. :lolup:
 

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i have made the same observation some time ago with saturn bingo:ill paste this from another forum i visit, because i threw away the original, its even worse:

got the latest bingo bonusmail so i decided to sign up for saturn bingo, as i see they have a full rtg casino in the house.
i take the 30 no deposit bonus,and chat with support:

Please wait for a site operator to respond.

You are now chatting with 'CSCassi'

CSCassi: Hello, Welcome to Support Services, my name is Cassi how might I assist you?

dirkemans: hello

dirkemans: i would like to claim a code please

dirkemans: it said in the email i got from latestbingobonuses

CSCassi: what promotion are you looking for

dirkemans: that id have to email the code

dirkemans: but i thought getting live chat would be just as good, and maybe quicker\

CSCassi: yes it usually, is, now if you can tell me what is in the email that you are looking for receive

dirkemans: the code is CLSAT30

dirkemans: ^^

CSCassi: That would be the code you can redeem by going to through the cashier window

CSCassi: and typing in that code

dirkemans: lol serious?

CSCassi: yes serious

dirkemans: i dont know why the mail said to contact you then:)

dirkemans: silly

dirkemans: anyway ill try

dirkemans: it worked:)

dirkemans: any forbidden games and what is playthrough ma cashout etc?

dirkemans: *max

CSCassi: These introductory bonus dollars are simply intended to let you try out our great site, they do not qualify you for major game prizes, promotions or chat game credits.

CSCassi: A $50 cash deposit needs to be made before any withdrawal can be considered and winnings are capped at $50 from this promotion.

dirkemans: how ?

dirkemans: so if i win, it will be 50, then i have to deposit 50 and withdraw 100?

CSCassi: no max to withdrawal is 50

dirkemans: but then i never get any bonus

dirkemans: if i deposit 50 and may withdraw 50

dirkemans: i lose the 50 i could win with the bonus

dirkemans: ??

dirkemans: are u sure this is your bonus?

dirkemans: lol

CSCassi: yes it our free bonus, the site rules state any free bonuses received you can deposit 50 to get 50

CSCassi: A $50 cash deposit needs to be made before any withdrawal can be considered and winnings are capped at $50 from this promotion.

CSCassi: Promotional pages

dirkemans: well i hope i CAN withdraw 100, being my deposit, and my bonus combined no?

dirkemans: i want you to say it

dirkemans: those rules are written so that its not clear to me

CSCassi: I have told you the rules, i cannot change what the rules state. You deposit 50 to collect 50.

dirkemans: i can win 50 of this 30

CSCassi: yes then make a deposit of 50 to collect the 50 you won

dirkemans: i can win more even, but only withdraw 50 of what i win with this, then if i do get it to 50 withdrawable dollars, i need to make a deposit of 50, then i can go to cashier and withdraw 100?

dirkemans: total

dirkemans: or i withdraw the bonus and the 50 stays in my account

CSCassi: no sir, as I have said you can only cashout 50 so you would ask for 50

dirkemans: and the 50 left is gone?

dirkemans: you know thats the same as me depositing 50, then withdrawing it

dirkemans: totally useless

dirkemans: i see even here that i must wager my 50 40 times

dirkemans: LOL

CSCassi: yes on your deposit

dirkemans: so you want me to put in my money, which i might lose, but only if i can manage to playthrough it 50 times i can withdraw my own money again!

dirkemans: i can never win!

CSCassi: Sir I am only telling you the site rules.

CSCassi: You can as well as other have lots of times.

dirkemans: u seriousy should talk to the management

dirkemans: are there people who took this bonus?

dirkemans: and came back as depositing player??

CSCassi: yes we dont have robots who play, its all human (<---lol)

dirkemans: these people took this bonus

dirkemans: imagine i lose the 30

dirkemans: then i deposit some, is this also for 40x playtrough?

dirkemans: and also only max 50?

CSCassi: Reasonable Bonus Terms: (<---LOL again)

CSCassi: To withdraw your bonus, winnings, and deposit amount you will need to wager 40 times your deposit plus bonus.

CSCassi: IMPORTANT: SBZ can only be used in Bingo, Keno Slots and selected casino games.

CSCassi: Wagers in any form of BLACKJACK, TRI CARD POKER, '21' GAMES, PONTOON, VIDEO POKER, CARIBBEAN HOLD'EM, VEGAS THREE CARD RUMMY, TEXAS HOLD'EM BONUS POKER and any form of CRAPS, BACCARAT, ROULETTE or SICBO are not applicable toward the minimum wagering requirements UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED.

CSCassi: You should check out the FAQs and promotions pages, all withdrawal/cashout rules are posted on the site.

dirkemans: yes would be totally reasonable, and perfectly in order,IF it were not for the little 50 max cashout out vs the 50 minimum deposit...


So what do you guys think of this?
 

winbig

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Why don't casinos just say "SLOTS ONLY BONUS"* instead of listing 5,000 excluded games to confuse the player? :rolleyes: I see this so many times, it's getting annoying.

That's a rhetorical question. We all know the reason why - they either want the player to overlook a particular game that is in fact excluded, or else they want to slip a game in the list that they forgot, in order to void a big win.
 

KasinoKing

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Ok, spill already! Surely you don't expect us to wait forever for you to tell this juicy tale... :)
If you want to hear THAT story you must have far too much spare free-time on your hands - it's like reading a novel! :eek:
It's easy enough to find anyway at Dave's forum (though the original thread was archived due to too much flaming).

KK
 

Mavin1

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Thanks Incrediblestuff for the chat post, very informative and just as I thought, but worse. From what I read in the chat, your deposit is capped and all you get back in withdrawal is your deposit. :lolup:

Okay, obviously this is sounding like a financial information gathering casino more than anything and I would really be suspicious, as you are not getting anything from the max cashout from the initial bonus, but you have to make a deposit, wager 40x and then and only then you can cashout your $50.

I would seriously steer clear from places like this as it will probably go rogue or belly up taking your banking details with it.

They should call their bonus, The "No Can Do" bonus or "Ain't Gettin Squat Sucker" Bonus!

To much reefer!
 

all4greed

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got the latest bingo bonusmail so i decided to sign up for saturn bingo, as i see they have a full rtg casino in the house.
i take the 30 no deposit bonus,and chat with support:.......
So what do you guys think of this?

Argh! Just when I heard it all and ready to close that book, crap like this appears!

Reading this chat log should be mandatory for players to see how far the industry has sunk. Either the rep is completely stupid or that place set up a "promo we can't lose on" offer for gullible players. While not fraudulent, it's about as close as one could go.

Would love to see a rep come here and explain why this is a great deal for the customer(s)...
 
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