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Discussion in 'Casinomeister's Poker Room' started by Rusty, Sep 2, 2006.

    Sep 2, 2006
  1. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

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    Like everybody else here I have had consistently crazy bad beats playing online poker.I think there is probably some kind of hidden handicap system running in the background to protect(encourage newbies)
    Anyway what I would like to know is if anyone knows of any new sites in the pipeline that are ready to come online in the UK when the new gambling regulations come into force, hopefully 2007.
    Once I know the site is properly regulated I can look forward to playing a real game of poker instead of sham we have now.
     
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  2. Sep 2, 2006
  3. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

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    Have you tried Ladbrokes? I know they're quite reputable, but haven't played there because I'm in the USA. I just know they use the same s/w as Prima, but not tied into their network in any way.
     
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  4. Sep 2, 2006
  5. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

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    I have

    Yeah I have played at Ladbrooks and many other sites in the past but always with the same results.Win at first and then start suffering ludicrous bad beats esp' in sit and go tourneys.I havent played online for 6 months now and will not do so again until I know it is properly regulated which is why I am interested to know if anyone knows if and when there are going to be any new poker sites with servers based in the UK when the new gambling regulations come into force.
     
  6. Sep 3, 2006
  7. nafanny29

    nafanny29 Dormant account

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    Interesting subject Rusty, and like you I am hoping for good things when the UK finally hosts, regulates and audits online gaming sites.
     
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  8. Sep 4, 2006
  9. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

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    Yup

    ...and what should be even more interseting is just how those sites will compare gameplay wise with the current Prima sites and it gets better, what software will they use and is there a good argument to be made for the software to be made available for public viewing? After all I would of thought any security issues were server related and being able to see the code would not compromise security.
    What do you think Prima?
    :lolup:
     
  10. Sep 4, 2006
  11. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

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    :what:

    There's no way any poker room would make their code available to the public. They'd be asking for people to cheat! :D
     
  12. Sep 4, 2006
  13. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

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    ahhh but

    That is the thing though. Knowing the code would not matter you would still have to hack into the server and be able to manipulate or change the code from within.
     
  14. Sep 5, 2006
  15. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

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    But yet would help people in knowing what packets to look for to/from other clients, and also leaves the door open for people to get backdoored from others that manipulate the client code.
     
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  16. Sep 5, 2006
  17. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

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    aye

    Tis true but the networking part of the code could be left out, anyway mine is a moot point as we could never know if we were looking at the genuine code. I guess in the end it comes down to trust. By the way would you and any other online poker players reading prefer to play in a UK regulated Casino if that happens next Year?
     
  18. Sep 6, 2006
  19. TheGooner

    TheGooner Dormant account

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    Laugh out loud at the thought that "new regualtions" will change poker software at all.

    Laugh even louder at the concept of companies releasing their code for "scrutiny" from the general populace.

    That's like demanding intel release detailed schematics of their latest chips so IT nerds can estimate their computing requirements ...
    :D

    The code block seems to be around 6MB, what are you expecting to see a few comments left in like "Here iswhere we deliver the runner-runner sucker punch?"
    :lolup:

    Or perhaps "here is where we stick it to Rusty" ...
    :D

    There is no grand conspiracy to deliver bad beats - people simply have a false idea of what their chances of winning are. People think that when AQ is beaten by 35 it's a bad beat. But AQ was only a 63% favourite anyway.

    Look.
    I saw a WSOP circuit tourney program last night on TV ... final table action.

    I saw the chip leader knock out a player with his 66 against QQ on the river.
    And later on in the heads up showdown the same chip leaders KK was beaten by 66 again.

    It happens just as often in the real world
    - but we play a lot less real world hands
    - and maybe we also play against better players in real world?

    But ... there is no grand conspiracy to deliver bad beats
     
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  20. Sep 6, 2006
  21. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

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    LMFAO

    The code block seems to be around 6MB, what are you expecting to see a few comments left in like "Here iswhere we deliver the runner-runner sucker punch?"


    Or perhaps "here is where we stick it to Rusty" ...


    :lolup:
    Waaahhaaaha that is exactly what I expect to see.

    By the way what you see on TV is only the bad beats and significant pots and I agree with you it is just like unedited online poker ;)

    One other thought;

    If you were unscrupulous and greedy enough to own a gambling site and had a sure fire way to increase your profits without any fear of comebacks would you not do it?

    It is an unregulated industry worth billions of dollars, people have killed for a lot less, go figure.

    :cool: >my best poker face
     
  22. Sep 12, 2006
  23. stuey_thekid

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    Hilarious thread...

    I started out learning/playing poker live to take a break from the backoffs I was getting counting cards at Blackjack. I hadn't heard of the WSOP or the big online poker fad. I played live exclusively for months before messing with online poker rooms. I can assure you there are periods in live poker where the match to your small pocket pair will hit the flop, the fifth to your suit will hit the turn or river or the end of your OESD will come through, not to mention catching quads or a straight flush to pop someone else's boat. And the undesirable alternatives also take place... and they can take place in close succession.

    My guess is some combination of not having much experience live, an initial experience of heavy positive variance that conditioned you to expect it all the time and online multi-tabling that allows about 4-25 times as many hands in a given timeframe along with its concomitant increase in bad beat frequency have resulted in an unrealistic judgment of online poker.
     
  24. Sep 12, 2006
  25. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

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    Found this on another forum....can anyone please verify this?

    Prima is locking accounts from users in 7 states where they have laws against gambling online already in place. These include:

    Again, can anyone confirm this?
     
  26. Sep 13, 2006
  27. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

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    Winbig - I checked this out with Microgaming Poker Network management and they have commented that there is "no truth whatsoever" in this allegation.
     
  28. Sep 13, 2006
  29. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

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    Thanks...I recently found out that it's individual prima rooms that are doing it. Purple Lounge and Dream Poker are ones that I know of...
     
  30. Sep 14, 2006
  31. paul02085

    paul02085 Senior Member

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    Players yelling rigged=Losing players. That is all.:)
     
  32. Sep 15, 2006
  33. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

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    lol good one.

    Your nick looks familiar. Did you ever play @ bugsys club with a similar name?
     
  34. Sep 15, 2006
  35. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

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    no cigar

    Players yelling rigged=Losing players. That is all.


    I have played live poker on and off for over 10 Years and of course you get bad beats that is not the issue.My problem is when over a sustained period I am only winning 9% of all ins post flop even though I am ahead in 87% of these and I am not talking about 55% 45% splits most of the time the odds have been much more in my favour. These stats are from sit n go tourneys as I stopped playing the cash games because they were awash with shrills and props.
    Ultimately we can only go off our own experiences and if that experience for you represents a fair and realistic game of poker then play away, I am happy for you.
    By the way I am actually in front from playing online poker as I would always win at a new site before the bad beats started rolling in, as I have said it is NOT rigged against individual players just bias towards noobies.
    Only my opinion of course.;)
    PS
    Has anyone read anything here about the recent arrests made in the US regarding online gambling bosses?
     
  36. Sep 15, 2006
  37. paul02085

    paul02085 Senior Member

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    No. I play 95% of time at Party due to their unending supply of noobs.:)
     
  38. Sep 15, 2006
  39. paul02085

    paul02085 Senior Member

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    I didnt mean anything personal. I was just speaking in generalities. Have a good one.:)
     

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