New casino - super terms!

KasinoKing

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Just got an e-mail from a brand new casino wanting to be advertised on my websites...
UK license with SOME (not all) MG & NetEnt games + a few other popular softwares.

From their Welcome Bonus terms, which get worse as they go on...

Bonus funds carry a wagering requirement of 30x the sum of your deposit and bonus amount (e.g. £10 deposit + £10 bonus*30= £600) must be met before the bonus and any winnings are converted to capped cash and this and any further winnings become withdrawable if the bonus is related to a deposit.
Deposit + Bonus x30 is too high IMO, and note the "capped" statement...

Bonus funds are exempt and unable to be used on the following games: Dracula, Guns 'N' Roses, Jimi Hendrix, Divine Fortune, The Invisible Man, Isle O'Plenty, Gong Xi Fa Cai, More Monkeys, Genie Jackpots, Justice League, Batman, Superman, The Flash, Green Lantern, An Evening with Holly Madison, Psycho, James Dean, The Pig Wizard, Thunderstruck II, Cats, Chilli Gold, Fortunes of Sparta, Golden, Gorilla Go Wild, Hooks Hero, Jackpot Jester, Wild Nudge, JJ50K, Lucky Larry Lobstermania, Monster Wins, Motorhead, Paws of Fury, Planet of the Apes, Secrets of Atlantis, Slots-o-Gold, Spin Sorceress, Starmania, Steam Tower, Super Diamond Deluxe, Super Spinner, Top Cat, Vikings of Fortune, Winstar, Wolfpack, Worms and Harley Davison Freedom Tour
... because obviously all those slots are highly abuseable with a tiny (D+B)x30 WR! :eek2:

4x Conversion: The maximum conversion amount from bonus funds will be capped at 4X the bonus amount awarded. Bonus funds convert automatically once wagering is complete.
:eek: <speechless>


I'm seeing more and more of this crap every week - especially the excluded games nonsense - it's no wonder casinos are struggling to attract new players :(

KK
 

goatwack

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There's no incentive to even sign up to any new casinos anymore, certainly not for experienced players, let alone anyone promote these clipjoints.

Of course you'll get new sign-ups get roped into playing there, as many aren't privy to the advice found on here. I don't even know what these tinpot casinos stand to gain in the long term with these types of restrictions.

I could swear it was only yesterday when the only excluded game would be Dead or Alive. Ahh, the good old days :(
 

brianmon

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Just got an e-mail from a brand new casino wanting to be advertised on my websites...
UK license with SOME (not all) MG & NetEnt games + a few other popular softwares.

From their Welcome Bonus terms, which get worse as they go on...

Bonus funds carry a wagering requirement of 30x the sum of your deposit and bonus amount (e.g. £10 deposit + £10 bonus*30= £600) must be met before the bonus and any winnings are converted to capped cash and this and any further winnings become withdrawable if the bonus is related to a deposit.
Deposit + Bonus x30 is too high IMO, and note the "capped" statement...

Bonus funds are exempt and unable to be used on the following games: Dracula, Guns 'N' Roses, Jimi Hendrix, Divine Fortune, The Invisible Man, Isle O'Plenty, Gong Xi Fa Cai, More Monkeys, Genie Jackpots, Justice League, Batman, Superman, The Flash, Green Lantern, An Evening with Holly Madison, Psycho, James Dean, The Pig Wizard, Thunderstruck II, Cats, Chilli Gold, Fortunes of Sparta, Golden, Gorilla Go Wild, Hooks Hero, Jackpot Jester, Wild Nudge, JJ50K, Lucky Larry Lobstermania, Monster Wins, Motorhead, Paws of Fury, Planet of the Apes, Secrets of Atlantis, Slots-o-Gold, Spin Sorceress, Starmania, Steam Tower, Super Diamond Deluxe, Super Spinner, Top Cat, Vikings of Fortune, Winstar, Wolfpack, Worms and Harley Davison Freedom Tour
... because obviously all those slots are highly abuseable with a tiny (D+B)x30 WR! :eek2:

4x Conversion: The maximum conversion amount from bonus funds will be capped at 4X the bonus amount awarded. Bonus funds convert automatically once wagering is complete.
:eek: <speechless>


I'm seeing more and more of this crap every week - especially the excluded games nonsense - it's no wonder casinos are struggling to attract new players :(

KK

Definitely a Nektan site, and you'll find another 50+ of their sites with identical T&C

Strange how they say that the D+B must be wagered. Nektan sites used to allow you to withdraw your cash and winnings, if you hadn't touched the bonus.

Edit: Actually, after checking the Nektan license, it's more like 100 sites
 
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dunover

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Just got an e-mail from a brand new casino wanting to be advertised on my websites...
UK license with SOME (not all) MG & NetEnt games + a few other popular softwares.

From their Welcome Bonus terms, which get worse as they go on...

Bonus funds carry a wagering requirement of 30x the sum of your deposit and bonus amount (e.g. £10 deposit + £10 bonus*30= £600) must be met before the bonus and any winnings are converted to capped cash and this and any further winnings become withdrawable if the bonus is related to a deposit.
Deposit + Bonus x30 is too high IMO, and note the "capped" statement...

Bonus funds are exempt and unable to be used on the following games: Dracula, Guns 'N' Roses, Jimi Hendrix, Divine Fortune, The Invisible Man, Isle O'Plenty, Gong Xi Fa Cai, More Monkeys, Genie Jackpots, Justice League, Batman, Superman, The Flash, Green Lantern, An Evening with Holly Madison, Psycho, James Dean, The Pig Wizard, Thunderstruck II, Cats, Chilli Gold, Fortunes of Sparta, Golden, Gorilla Go Wild, Hooks Hero, Jackpot Jester, Wild Nudge, JJ50K, Lucky Larry Lobstermania, Monster Wins, Motorhead, Paws of Fury, Planet of the Apes, Secrets of Atlantis, Slots-o-Gold, Spin Sorceress, Starmania, Steam Tower, Super Diamond Deluxe, Super Spinner, Top Cat, Vikings of Fortune, Winstar, Wolfpack, Worms and Harley Davison Freedom Tour
... because obviously all those slots are highly abuseable with a tiny (D+B)x30 WR! :eek2:

4x Conversion: The maximum conversion amount from bonus funds will be capped at 4X the bonus amount awarded. Bonus funds convert automatically once wagering is complete.
:eek: <speechless>


I'm seeing more and more of this crap every week - especially the excluded games nonsense - it's no wonder casinos are struggling to attract new players :(

KK

Yes, I was approached by the same lot on Skype, told them I wouldn't promote Nektan any more and provided the CM 'Shittiest Player Experience Award 2017' link to them.....:D

Am I right in saying it's 'Jackpot Jones'???? :thumbsup:
 

KasinoKing

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Definitely a Nektan site, and you'll find another 50+ of their sites with identical T&C
Spot on - it is Netkan! :thumbsup:

I must admit I didn't know they had a whole host of casinos with these shitty terms :mad:
I won't name the casino here - lets just say everyone needs to avoid all Netkans if they are all the same.
Surely anyone with a brain reading those terms would run a mile - how do they get ANY players :what:

@ Dunover: Nope.

KK
 

brianmon

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Spot on - it is Netkan! :thumbsup:

I must admit I didn't know they had a whole host of casinos with these shitty terms :mad:
I won't name the casino here - lets just say everyone needs to avoid all Netkans if they are all the same.
Surely anyone with a brain reading those terms would run a mile - how do they get ANY players :what:

@ Dunover: Nope.

KK

You shouldn't find too many differences between all their T&C

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brianmon

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Yes, I was approached by the same lot on Skype, told them I wouldn't promote Nektan any more and provided the CM 'Shittiest Player Experience Award 2017' link to them.....:D

Am I right in saying it's 'Jackpot Jones'???? :thumbsup:
You are actually promoting a couple of Nektan sites - Touch Lucky and Reel Vegas
 

DreamRJ

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Well I am sure they will be one of those groups that get fined or have their license revoked due to those disgusting rules. They are already breaking the rules And that cap is just damn right criminal. No welcome bonus deposit bonus should ever have capped winnings ever. If a player deposits there should never ever be a max cashout cap. If it is from a ND then sure go ahead cap them with a max cashout. Otherwise you can get stuffed.

I am glad you have posted this @KasinoKing - it will help make people aware to avoid them. You should have named and shamed them though in the thread. :p
 

Tirilej

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Well I am sure they will be one of those groups that get fined or have their license revoked due to those disgusting rules. They are already breaking the rules And that cap is just damn right criminal. No welcome bonus deposit bonus should ever have capped winnings ever. If a player deposits there should never ever be a max cashout cap. If it is from a ND then sure go ahead cap them with a max cashout. Otherwise you can get stuffed.

I am glad you have posted this @KasinoKing - it will help make people aware to avoid them. You should have named and shamed them though in the thread. :p

As have been explained before then it's not a max cashout. It's what you can win from what you wager when playing with a bonus. That is capped. You can then keep on playing and cash out a lot more...which they of course know you're not likely to do and keep on winning :rolleyes:

It's bad and it's difficult to understand. I have not and will not touch any of those casinos.
 

DreamRJ

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As have been explained before then it's not a max cashout. It's what you can win from what you wager when playing with a bonus. That is capped. You can then keep on playing and cash out a lot more...which they of course know you're not likely to do and keep on winning :rolleyes:

It's bad and it's difficult to understand. I have not and will not touch any of those casinos.

ahh ok I see, Well to me a cap is a cap regardless and yes I am the same I would not go near any of those casinos either.

I never make the mistakes I used to make anymore. I know far too much now for me to be silly and not do checks before signing up and depositing at a new casino.
 

dbl88

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All this D+B wagering, how do even ppl put up with that, i did cuz i had nowhere else to paly and still managed it with a huge profit once though, love giving fingers to a casino:p
 

BillyBonanza

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All this D+B wagering, how do even ppl put up with that, i did cuz i had nowhere else to paly and still managed it with a huge profit once though, love giving fingers to a casino:p

I went to casumo I think it was and they told me 30x. And I said 30x the what. They said deposit plus bonus. I said, goodbye
 

dogshead1

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Well I'll add to this thread and offer up my shitty experience upon a successful wager this week and on top of that I turned my capped funds into a few hundred quid before withdrawal. Now here's the catch. I got caught on this with another Nektan site before. Both deposits were BOKU (pay by mobile). My first experience I waited 2 weeks for funds to hit my bank because they needed every ID, Bank Statement (??????????????) proof of mobile phone bill and so on to verify my identity. I understand this to due to UKGC regulations but why bank statement?

Anyway moving to today 3 days after my withdrawal request having prior to withdrawal I uploaded all documents again to stop this delay. They only offered TRUSTLY as a withdrawal method. That's no problem used this before quick and instant bank transfer no 3-5 business days as a return to debit or credit card. Well I quizzed them on this and the delay today and was given the most rudest customer experience ever. For one I asked why the delay and was told its still pending. Well that's not the message I received when I made the withdrawal request. It said it was successful. When I quizzed that, was told its with payments team queuing for 3 days before processing. Well I've not been informed of any of this nor does my withdrawal request history show pending. So quizzed them on this and politely reminded them that offering TRUSTLY and adhearing to its principle and not keeping customers up to date with the withdrawal process is breaching UK marking laws and I'm sure UKGC regulation. Please correct me on the the UKGC Regulation. Only to be abrutly given a message it takes so long because of online banking and fraud and a further message to look at promotional offers ongoing and chat was terminated by them. How rude and what a scam.

I'll name the casino PLAYUK

Verdit avoid all NEKTAN

Many reasons the bonus terms are unfair and I'm sure now breach UKGC regulation (Please quote me)
Even if you are lucky to cash a profit they will make you wait forever for your funds.
 

theapple

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just read this topic as i somehow missed it and jeez

viks... 2x bonus is maximum conversion? what the...

EM used to be one of the good licenses back in the day, no? What on earth has happened to them. I remember they had lots of issues with SE stuff (it was them right?) but other than that... its like they dont want new players or are trying to drive both new and old players away :oops:
 
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