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Neteller shuts down Instacash for US players!

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by silcnlayc, Jan 17, 2007.

    Jan 17, 2007
  1. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

    Occupation:
    IT Director of Operations
    Location:
    Left Hungary
    It is now 5:55 pm est and I just talked with Neteller and and as of 5:45pm est today, Neteller has retired the instacash feature for all of US players.!!


    I found out by trying to deposit with this feature just a few minutes ago and couldn't figure out why it kept denying me so I called them and they said they will offer this no longer to US players....geezes....talk about a low blow!
     
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  2. Jan 17, 2007
  3. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    The beginning of the end of Neteller....
     
  4. Jan 17, 2007
  5. indicka

    indicka Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Pediatric Physical Therapist
    Location:
    bright side of the road
    You think? Give them a little time...theyre just changing costumes.
     
  6. Jan 17, 2007
  7. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Occupation:
    Bum
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    Pennsylvania
    Actually, I do. Neteller is one of the very few places still offering transactions to US players. Once they drop the US altogether, I doubt they'll stay afloat.
     
  8. Jan 17, 2007
  9. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

    Occupation:
    IT Director of Operations
    Location:
    Left Hungary
    Update...

    Update...Neteller will only take EFT and bank wire deposits only, at this time.
     
  10. Jan 17, 2007
  11. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    I think I'm just going to close my account with them altogether until this blows over. I have since changed banks, and would need to create another account anyways. I've been using gift cards to fund Neteller, but since they can't provide that for now, it's no loss.
     
  12. Jan 17, 2007
  13. indicka

    indicka Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Pediatric Physical Therapist
    Location:
    bright side of the road
    These guys all have floatation devices on before hitting the waters...theyll stay afloat, come back with a bigger ship next round..
    Maybe the name Neteller will sink...perhaps they were tired out that name anyways...theyll return with another name, new masks, new methods. (yeah..I'm also into conspiracy theories :rolleyes: )
     
  14. Jan 17, 2007
  15. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    Check out the thread about where the founders were arrested. Americans accounted for 75% of their business in '06. They cannot survive without the US market. They would never recover.
     
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  16. Jan 17, 2007
  17. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Maybe

    They may have seen this coming. They have been expanding aggressively into other markets, even the far east and Asia. Many of the unexpected maintenance outages last year was for them to add new language support to the website. Existing issues seemed unimportant, and maybe that was because complaints were largely from US players, a market they feared might be lost to them.
    This has probably happened earlier than they had planned, as they were probably hoping to see the results of the 270 day consultation period after the signing of the "safe ports" act, and then formulate a plan to comply with it, object on the grounds it was impossible to implement, or even find a loophole in the provisions. This would have given them a few more months, but they have had to react now. The fact that they are still willing to accept wire deposits and EFTs shows they are hanging on to as much as they can, for as long as they can, while they push into the new markets.
    Those of us who play in these new markets may notice a sudden marketing push for Neteller, which will probably involve the casinos giving out special extra bonuses for Neteller deposits, much like the US players are getting for Payspark and eCheck at present, probably the next targets for the FBI.
     
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  18. Jan 17, 2007
  19. vickie40

    vickie40 Vickie

    Occupation:
    Making the US a safer place!
    Location:
    USA
    Alright, I need some guidance..I've been using Neteller exclusively since Firepay went by the wayside. What is my next best option for funding my gambling habit since I live in the US?
     
  20. Jan 17, 2007
  21. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
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    Location:
    United Kingdom
    You could be out of luck. No doubt any other processor that seeks to fill the void will have the FBI and/or DoJ after it.

    Click2Pay were allowing some US customers, and their strength is in being an all purpose eWallet, not just for gambling. It will be harder to make a case against them without the full implementation of the "safe ports" act. Payspark seems only for MG casinos, and may well shut down to most US players if MG pull out altogether.
    If RTG create their own payment processor, you should have no problem depositing and losing online - just wait till you win though, they will have a heap of excuses to draw from.
    The remaining option may be a check in the post to the casino, made out to their holding company. Slow, but hardest to stop.
    Finally, they could open offices offshore or in Mexico. US players cross the border with the cash (up to the max allowed without having to declare it is leaving the US), and deposit in person. Withdrawal can be by similar means, or taken in goods. Only the most determined player will go this far, only those who emigrate to a country where gaming online is legal will be seen as the most determined of all.
     
  22. Jan 17, 2007
  23. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    Bum
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  24. Jan 17, 2007
  25. tennis_balls

    tennis_balls Dormant account

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    fish n chips promoter
    Location:
    Albuquerque, NM
    now that they have dropped inta-cash for US players, it will be very interesting to see if the time for an EFT now suddenly improves.

    i think many of the posters here are over-reacting. many of the same "Chicken Littles" were crying "it's all over!!!" the morning after chimp signed the port security bill.

    :eek: :eek: :D :D i dare anyone to flame me!!! :eek2: :eek2: :thumbsup: :eek:
     
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  26. Jan 17, 2007
  27. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    Pennsylvania
    Done!
     
  28. Jan 17, 2007
  29. tennis_balls

    tennis_balls Dormant account

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    Location:
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    Intertops just put $10 in my account. Maybe the world really is ending?
     
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  30. Jan 17, 2007
  31. soflat

    soflat Senior Member

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    It's all over!!!

    The port bill signing was the begining of the end. This is the middle portion.

    And they are picking up speed now.
     
  32. Jan 17, 2007
  33. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Perhaps

    Perhaps their haste will be their undoing - they might crash into a stationary constitutional crisis!
     
  34. Jan 17, 2007
  35. 1819

    1819 Dormant account

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    ny,nj,fla
    all access giftcard from netspend. its the only way i deposit anymore.
     
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  36. Jan 17, 2007
  37. TheGooner

    TheGooner Dormant account

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    Webmaster
    Location:
    New Zealand
    As someone who works with asian punters - I'll tell you that Neteller has plenty of room to expand ... they're rubbish in the Southern hemisphere.

    Their payment systems and controls are nearly all North American facing - they intergrate with EXACTLY one countries banking system in Asian (Australia) and would have almost less than 1% of the market.

    Their "expansion" is not evident down here ...
    :eek2:

    Pehaps this will focus their minds on actually delivering service down here ...
     
  38. Jan 17, 2007
  39. Pocketdiggers77

    Pocketdiggers77 Gamester

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    Ive found instadebit to be ok in place of neteller. Click2pay isnt on my A list right now. If solidpay was taken at more casinos I would say them but they seem to be catering to sportsbooks. The biggest problem with instadebit is their low limits. $200 per week i think for me. But that isnt such a bad thing.
     
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