Nedplay ALLOWS Cheaters

Damn, they had a good haul today:

They may not get to KEEP it though, since Nedplay are now on to them.

I noticed also that 32Red have added an extra term to their Loaded special this weekend, specifically aimed at cheaters who would create multiple accounts to get multiple entries. It is limited to 1000 players, and every place gets a prize (20 for most of the lower ones). Since it is only 10 to enter, this might have been a guaranteed 10 profit per account.
 
They may not get to KEEP it though, since Nedplay are now on to them.

I noticed also that 32Red have added an extra term to their Loaded special this weekend, specifically aimed at cheaters who would create multiple accounts to get multiple entries. It is limited to 1000 players, and every place gets a prize (20 for most of the lower ones). Since it is only 10 to enter, this might have been a guaranteed 10 profit per account.

Well, the $20 prize (you play in your own currency) comes with a 30X WR, so not a sure thing. Still, I will be there.;)
 
They may not get to KEEP it though, since Nedplay are now on to them.

I noticed also that 32Red have added an extra term to their Loaded special this weekend, specifically aimed at cheaters who would create multiple accounts to get multiple entries. It is limited to 1000 players, and every place gets a prize (20 for most of the lower ones). Since it is only 10 to enter, this might have been a guaranteed 10 profit per account.

Well, the $20 prize (you play in your own currency) comes with a 30X WR, so not a sure thing. Still, I will be there.;) When I clicked the link, it only showed standard playthrough, so I don't know if Club Rouge all games count towards wagering applies.
 
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I am now in direct contact with Robin and more information as well as a resolution will be forthcoming soon.


As for these posts:
They may not get to KEEP it though, since Nedplay are now on to them.

I noticed also that 32Red have added an extra term to their Loaded special this weekend, specifically aimed at cheaters who would create multiple accounts to get multiple entries. It is limited to 1000 players, and every place gets a prize (20 for most of the lower ones). Since it is only 10 to enter, this might have been a guaranteed 10 profit per account.

Well, the $20 prize (you play in your own currency) comes with a 30X WR, so not a sure thing. Still, I will be there.;)

Eh! This is a PAID tournament, NOT a "free" one. I would expect prizes to be CASH.

It should be noted that everyone that is playing dishonestly are all being found in freeroll tournaments that are satellites or have cash prize pools.
They may be rebuying (using their ill-gotten gains) when they're in the top 10 and the extra prize money is more than the rebuy cost, but they don't seem to be willing to spend anything on the buy in tournaments.
 
I am now in direct contact with Robin and more information as well as a resolution will be forthcoming soon.


As for these posts:





It should be noted that everyone that is playing dishonestly are all being found in freeroll tournaments that are satellites or have cash prize pools.
They may be rebuying (using their ill-gotten gains) when they're in the top 10 and the extra prize money is more than the rebuy cost, but they don't seem to be willing to spend anything on the buy in tournaments.

Honest to goodness... how do people find the time for such convoluted shenanigans for such meager winnings?? Do they not have lives? I barely have time to pop in here and check on the latest news a couple of times a day....

Thanks for keeping us posted. :thumbsup:
 
Honest to goodness... how do people find the time for such convoluted shenanigans for such meager winnings?? Do they not have lives? I barely have time to pop in here and check on the latest news a couple of times a day....

Thanks for keeping us posted. :thumbsup:

You would think for these small sums that would be quite true. However the principle of fair gaming for all, is what is the real stake here, not the amount.
Having said that these small wins replicated across many casinos on a daily basis can soon mount up to a considerable sum.

As casinos and poker rooms tighten up their security, then the scammers and fraudsters will always look to exploit any loopholes they can find. When they are onto a scam they will not hesitate to maximise revenue, whilst the rest of us are scratching away for an honest win. They have plenty of time on their hands, why? because scamming is their occupation.

Mike
 
Honest to goodness... how do people find the time for such convoluted shenanigans for such meager winnings?? Do they not have lives? I barely have time to pop in here and check on the latest news a couple of times a day....

Thanks for keeping us posted. :thumbsup:

You would think for these small sums that would be quite true. However the principle of fair gaming for all, is what is the real stake here, not the amount.
Having said that these small wins replicated across many casinos on a daily basis can soon mount up to a considerable sum.

As casinos and poker rooms tighten up their security, then the scammers and fraudsters will always look to exploit any loopholes they can find. When they are onto a scam they will not hesitate to maximise revenue, whilst the rest of us are scratching away for an honest win. They have plenty of time on their hands, why? because scamming is their occupation.

Mike

If you look at the two tournaments on just this one day all the wins managed to add up to 100.50 and US$81.90, or a total of almost US$250/CDN$275.

That's a pretty good day's pay if this is just one person pulling it off, and is ONLY representative of their/his activity at ONE CASINO.
 
Honest to goodness... how do people find the time for such convoluted shenanigans for such meager winnings?? Do they not have lives? I barely have time to pop in here and check on the latest news a couple of times a day....

Thanks for keeping us posted. :thumbsup:

I see I forgot to mention that the top prize in the Treasure Quest tournament from Jackpot Factory is 1000.-
As he came in 1st and 3rd he took home 1250.-
Thats not too bad for a day is it?
 
I see I forgot to mention that the top prize in the Treasure Quest tournament from Jackpot Factory is 1000.-
As he came in 1st and 3rd he took home 1250.-
Thats not too bad for a day is it?

Jackpot Factory have, thus far, been completely unresponsive regarding this issue. They haven't even acknowledged receipt of any emails sent to them, nor has there been any response from the casino rep.
 
Apparently this issue IS being resolved.

Nedplay and 32Red have, obviously, done something and I understand that Microgaming themselves are now doing a thorough investigation into all suspicious activities raised in this thread, even the individuals that are entering multiple accounts into the same network-wide tournaments.

As you can see below, the suspicious names do not appear anywhere, so the games are now fair and everyone has an equal chance once again.
 
Microgaming has blocked the following accounts :

samsulnp
secbajnp
adykarnp
mijbarnp
alibosnp
edijamnp
fikdabnp
jojkornp
josasanp
gorhulnp
harkurnp
anabilnp
dusprinp
edikojnp
jansarnp
amisuknp
afaolonp
enebajnp
jospatnp

They were blocked on NedPlay because they are acting against the MPV terms and conditions.
 
Thanks Dan889,

Are you a deputee of MGS or 32Red?

Can you tell anything more about the people behind these accounts, or was it just one person?
 
Have you pointed Pat to this thread. It contains our own theories and deductions. This should help the investigation, as they will know what to look for as "linking factors". They will have access to their own security systems, which will be able to tell whether this looks like a group of "linked accounts", or merely a far fetched, but genuine, coincidence.

Currently, it rather looks like the multiple accounters are targeting these tournaments, since the net has tightened on free chips and welcome bonuses.

Remember also, that accounts are generally audited upon the first WITHDRAWAL, and if none of these have submitted their first, there will be nothing to trigger an audit.

If they are this clever, they could be using sit n go tournaments to transfer their ill gotten gains to "clean" accounts that HAVE passed audits.

If they have 5 aliases, they all join the same sit n go, and can control which accounts dump to others. It might be worth looking to see if there are sit n go events where all 5 seats have been taken solely by these suspect aliases. This method will move 90% of the money, the other 10% is lost. 3 "clean" accounts are needed to come in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. The aliases that need to avoid scrutiny will come 4th and 5th, dumping to the top 3, which can eventually withdraw the proceeds.
Unlike poker, MGS may simply not be looking out for this, and it may be going undetected. It certainly seems that multiple accounting in the main tournaments is going on undetected.


They could make a fortune if they just took up 4 seats and left the 5th for one sucker.
 
Microgaming has blocked the following accounts :

samsulnp
secbajnp
adykarnp
mijbarnp
alibosnp
edijamnp
fikdabnp
jojkornp
josasanp
gorhulnp
harkurnp
anabilnp
dusprinp
edikojnp
jansarnp
amisuknp
afaolonp
enebajnp
jospatnp

They were blocked on NedPlay because they are acting against the MPV terms and conditions.


What about the 32Red and All Jackpot accounts? And I'm sure there's many more out there at other MG casinos. I'm sure that this guy is still up to no good at other casinos that haven't been checked, for one reason or another.


And honestly, this guy wasn't very smart at all. Why in the world would you even think about creating so many aliases that start and/or end in the same fashion?

In most of those SS's (those that were taken before the tourney started), most all of the cheating aliases were grouped together, making it much easier to spot.
 
Honest to goodness... how do people find the time for such convoluted shenanigans for such meager winnings?? Do they not have lives? I barely have time to pop in here and check on the latest news a couple of times a day....

Maybe they're not playing. It could be just one person running multiple instances of a bot. Would help explain the speed of play too. Can't get over the stupidity off his naming convention though! Probably some kind of idiot savant.
 
Apparently this issue IS being resolved.

Nedplay and 32Red have, obviously, done something and I understand that Microgaming themselves are now doing a thorough investigation into all suspicious activities raised in this thread, even the individuals that are entering multiple accounts into the same network-wide tournaments.

As you can see below, the suspicious names do not appear anywhere, so the games are now fair and everyone has an equal chance once again.

It may be going on at other casino's so looks like MG havent done anything about it yet.
taken from the first few pages of players
 
Does anyone actually still believe that MG didn't create this situation, on purpose? After operating these tournaments how long don't they know exactly wtf is up with their own tournaments?

Up until a few months ago, if you entered a MG tournament at a site where you hadn't, previously, entered a tournament, the player alias you registered at your first MG tourney would be popped up for you to confirm and you would then be "entered" - this was across all MG sites. No way to enter a tournament more than once. MG only recently changed it to where you now have no choice but to register a different, unique, player alias for each MG site where you are entering into a tourney if its your first tourney at that site. No more popups prompting you to confirm your playername, "Bonehead - if this is you, click here." Now the pop-up is a field to enter a fresh username with built in "availability check". Get it?

So... many players have rushed around to every MG site they could think of where they had never registered for a tournament, previously, for the sole purpose of creating fresh, multiple aliases and entries into tournaments. I have 13. That's 13 X more opportunity MG and its operators have for collecting rebuy and continue fees from me. Now multiply that by every tournament player. I don't care what you determine the average ratio of multiple playernames to MG customers is, it's still multiplication of tournament revenue for MG and MG operators with zero added investment. Go around and check out the leap in tournament participation in the last three months then tell yourself all about MG's investigation they're conducting. The only thing getting investigated is that MG is investigating whether or not numbnutz1-numbnutz290 and all of the dagogurlies, et al, wouldn't mind, too much, if they'd let MG change all their too-obviously-similar-playernames, just enough, to shut you guys up. Cheating? 500 rebuys and now this? Perish the thought. :lolup:

Now, given all of the above, lookit what these greedy bastards got goin! (hint: tourney ID #'s)
 
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It is my sad duty to announce that Microgaming really do not give a rats ass about the cheaters in their tournaments.

It has now been six weeks since I started this thread.

Although Nedplay DID manage to rid themselves of the organized 'team' I discovered, the network itself is still thoroughly infested.

As Nedplay no longer have their exclusive freerolls, I decided to play the network wide $50 freeroll and, of course, I browsed the roster.

Look what I found in the first few pages:

cheater1.jpg


cheater2.jpg


cheater3.jpg


cheater4.jpg
 
Roanan said:
It is my sad duty to announce ...

Oh you're announcing, alluvasudden! :notworthy The following from this thread, Dec 17, 2009: Link Outdated / Removed

bernynhel said:
About a month ago Microgaming quit recognizing tournament players across different sites which means that a player must now choose a new alias if registering for a tournament at a casino where they had not played in a tournament before. At casinos where the player had registered and played prior to this change, one alias worked at all sites and the player was prompted to enter their original alias. The new dealio forces multi-aliases and offers players multiple entries in tournaments that are shared by multiple Microgaming casinos. It's almost as if MG wants players to abuse the tournaments.

Roanan said:
...that Microgaming really do not give a rats ass about the cheaters in their tournaments...

That's because MicroGaming doesn't call 'em "cheaters." They call 'em "customers." And without having to attract any new registrants, MG has multiplied their tournament business. Since losing a huge chunk of the US market and their business, they're looking under every rock to find ways of boosting profits.

After holding these tourneys all these years, this ain't no "bug" MG tourneys have developed that "cheaters" have discovered and are taking advantage of. It's a revamped business plan.

At Royal Vegas, Jackpot City, Platinum Play, All Jackpots and about a dozen anna half other MG sites I was just Rumplestiltskin - for years. Still am at those sites I entered tournaments more than six months ago. Now,as a few months ago I'm spooge @ BlackJack Ballroom, hooppa @ Vegas Palms, dookie @ Platinum Play, mucus @ River Belle, spit @ Players Palace, bile @ Captain Cooks, spew @ Casino Action, wreckedum @ 7 Sultans, smegma @ Fortune Room, phlegm @ Maple Casino, booger @ All Slots, vomit @ Red flush and barf @ Casio Share. These are me waiting for a bj tourney to start.
 

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