NE hacked, CON wont repay me although they got my money($4700)

Linus

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WagerWitch - you might consider making your disclaimer on your website a little more prominent.

Wager Witch accepts NO liability for any losses you may incur from using the information or links provided on this or any website. Use at your own risk!

You wouldn't want people to think it's safe to play at the casinos you promote, just because you promote them. Especially considering the casinos you're affiliated with.
 

spearmaster

RIP Ted
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Linus said:
WagerWitch - you might consider making your disclaimer on your website a little more prominent.

You wouldn't want people to think it's safe to play at the casinos you promote, just because you promote them. Especially considering the casinos you're affiliated with.

That was uncalled for, Linus. Not only is your post off topic, she didn't ask for your opinion of her site.
 
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WagerWitch

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Linus said:
WagerWitch - you might consider making your disclaimer on your website a little more prominent.



You wouldn't want people to think it's safe to play at the casinos you promote, just because you promote them. Especially considering the casinos you're affiliated with.


ROFLMAO!!

Nah - It's quite alright Spear.

I choose which casinos offer Freebies mostly - and a few that offer good incentives. That's the ones I've enjoyed.

I make no guarantees that anyone is going to win - just that those casinos are offering deals that might be fun for online players.

So far - I haven't found any horrid items from them... YET - and IF I should, I'll pull them.

I happen to have liked the way I've been treated by the casino reps - the cashouts and the way they've handled me personally.

However - if you've got some skinny you want to share - please, by all means - without addressing it here on the CasinoMeister Forum - feel free to PM me or drop me a line. I'm all about learning, understanding and listening.

But if you're just being rude well then you can KMA.

:p

And I don't accept responsibility for anyone else's gambling choices... Just like Jack Daniel's doesn't accept responsibility for idiotic people driving drunk after consuming Alcohol. I do promote responsible gaming - and have an article, specifically aimed at that.

If ya have an issue with me - PM me - don't be a snark on the boards.
 

Linus

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Joyland & Casino Classic were the ones I was thinking of, but Maxima probably ought to be included in there as well.

I bugs me that - too often - players can't rely on affiliates to recommend good, reliable casinos, but we can - too often - rely on them to take the casino's side in a dispute.

Please don't think I'm specifically talking about you. It's just that your disclaimer struck me as a particularly egregious example. If you (2nd-person, plural) can't stand behind your casinos - I have to ask - why are you promoting them?

Anyway, I don't mean to derail the thread. I still think that Casino On Net can't - or at least shouldn't - get away with taking deposits willy-nilly from anyone with a debit card number, no matter how ill-gotten, while simultaneously waiting for a withdrawal, before performing any security. What it shows is that they don't care where the money's coming from, as long as it's coming in, and that the only security they're interested in, is its own.

I'm not just arguing it's immoral - which it is. Or that it's hypocritical.

It's also bad business. When (if) America gets serious about stopping CON, and other offshore operations, from soliciting Americans, these kinds of things will be part of the reason why it happens.
 

WagerWitch

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Could you PM or email me your reasons why you believe those companies should be rogued?

I don't see them listed here nor did I find any complaints based on them - anywhere.

If you have information of a specific nature that includes Joyland, Casino Classic or Maxima - I would certainly like to be in the know.

However, as I have said - I haven't found negs on them that would discredit them on a massive basis (for example Golden Palace type of stuff, Mapau stuff, etc.)

If you have firm evidence in hand and/or can point me in the direction of those particular casinos having treated multiple players innappropriately - then I'd certainly love to hear it.

wagerwitchad at yahoo dot com is a good addy for me checked at least every other day.

I will admit those casinos that you've listed have treated me fairly, with excellent customer service and I have not found them in the negatives either here or through google.

I stand by my disclaimer - I'm not responsible for your choices in casinos.

If you click on a link - either at my site or any other link - I'm not going to take responsibility for your actions.

I also expect every player to read the TCs and to understand that the casinos are out to make a buck and the players are out to win... And I know there are cheaters on both sides.

So with that said - AGAIN - if you have direct information... not heresay... share it. I'm interested.

EDITED: Noted Joyland in Rogue Casino Listing - Will remove Joyland from my list - I obviously missed that one. It will take 24-48 hours to remove it - tho - just letting you know haven't been able to get into Blogspot for 4 hours - sometimes they go down... Sigh...
 
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WagerWitch

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If you (2nd-person, plural) can't stand behind your casinos - I have to ask - why are you promoting them?

Uhm... Linus... Affiliates are out to make monies based on players sent to the casinos and based on the amount of clicks per link, and... based on amounts wagered against amounts won.

So basically affiliates are there to make money by sending customers to the casinos.

They are nothing more than billboards.

I hope most of us are responsible billboards - but we are not responsible for the speeders on the highway... Yanno?

And No - I don't take it personally. There are few places such as CasinoMeister, GoneGambling that have enough following to get deals on advertisement space... and not per customer brought in.

I take it you don't know what affiliate agreements are and stuff? If you'd like I'd gladly teach you or share with you what info I have - just email the addy above and I promise to answer that which I can.

Luckymeki
WagerWitch

PS - Now - Back to the thread - LMAO - carry on.... *Grin* :oops:
 

vinylweatherman

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Neteller

Linus said:
Chris, I hope the police can do something for you. Unfortunately, 888 is based in Gibraltar, not Sweden. I am glad, though, to hear that Betcris did the right thing.

Since you're in Sweden, where it's legal - you ought to consider using a credit card from now on. (If you decide to keep gambling.) The great thing about a credit card, is that you're not responsible for unauthorized charges.

If you'd used a credit card, Casino On Net would not have been in position to blow you off, the way they have.

Seems CON have got it in for Neteller users! They also have huge WR on anything they get compared with Credit card users, yet with Neteller they can't suffer chargebacks, this is all back to front! Maybe they have had this experience before with a lot of Neteller fraud compared to credit card fraud.

With these two factors in mind, it would seem best to only use credit cards here, or not play at all. This will cost them more in the long run, as US players find it hard to use cards, and European players have their cards debited in Dollars, costing extra. No wonder they have to advertise on the Urinals at Motorway services:D :D (Taking the P*** no doubt:D ).
 

Linus

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luckymeki said:
Uhm... Linus... Affiliates are out to make monies based on players sent to the casinos and based on the amount of clicks per link, and... based on amounts wagered against amounts won.

So basically affiliates are there to make money by sending customers to the casinos.

They are nothing more than billboards.

Well, many of them are billboards, but they'd be insulted if you called them that. :)
 

chris_d

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Hello. I PAB for about 2month ago and havent heard anything. I must say that Im very disapointed. I have sent like 3-4 reminder mails to casinomeister also sent a few private massages. He doesnt reply to anything and I wrote that its okay for me if he dont have the time but at least tell it to me. The police havent started their inverstigation yet and it feels like it is almost to late to do anything. I have already realized that I wont see the money again but offcourse I still hoping for a solution...
Casinomeister if you read this please tell me your decision in this case.
 

frufrugirl

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It is a very scary thing to happen especially when it is through a poker site (Paradise Poker was where I got caught with a keylogger) and Neteller which is a very tightly held site where this is where my funds were trying to be with drawn also.


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amatrine

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Arizona City, Az
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My neteller was hacked through a keylogger. Neteller would not refund the money. So I went to my bank and had the charges reversed from my bank,which put my bank in the red by the way.
and blocked neteller and closed the account. Neteller is still holding me responsible for the stollen funds. I have affilate accounts that I set up with neteller, that have paid winnings to that account, and I cant not get them .Neteller is just keeping them. I find this very wrong. Its a mess. I would never use neteller again.
We looked under thier T$C's, and they say they are not responsible for fraud ,
that the customer is. Now I use another service that has better terms and conditions. I also frequently run scans now looking for keyloggers. When that keylogger hit me, I had to change my paypal, ebay, bank cards, everything, to be safe. Then even finding it and getting it off my computer took days.

I cant be sure where I got it but I have an idea. I was visiting a top 100 casino list site, and got a virus alert when I went on the page. I could never find it to remove it. It was shortly after this that happened. I also no longer visit portals I do not know.

Amatrine

Now when I fund online gaming, I do it from the place I use now, but I have all winnings sent by overnight express. I do not want to leave any money hanging around those accounts. Its too scarey.
 
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