My thoughts on 2 recent out of line threads!

[rena35]

Been very much self absorbed lately. I have been playing slots on 3 dice here and there but have not had much spare time to be on CM. Also after a stint in the hospital thanks to my BP and stress level, i have been trying to take it easy. I for one had no idea RJ was gay and i have known him for more years then i can remember. I come to CM to see the latest casino news and experience from other gamblers so that i know where to play and where to stay away from. I have a daughter that is 12 years old and she has asked me out right how i would feel if she did not like boys. I remember asking RJ his opinion, not because i thought he was gay, but because he is my friend. I answered with honesty that i will love and support her no matter what. That being said i have not been able to read the whole thread and missed the ones that were posted, so i cant comment on what i did not see. I can however say to each there own. Race, sex, religion does not change the character of a person. I have spoken to a lot of people in my time on forums and I cant remember ever asking someone about anything other then the occasional vent about slots and asking about everyday mundane things. There are wayyyyy more fish to fry. I either like you or don't.

 

[geordiecolin]

I have a method to help me deal with any old shite I see posted on the interweb

 

[geordiecolin]

Well kinda but it just proves another point about likes and thanks in forums in general. Maybe what needs to be done also. Is on threads that are political in nature and on various topics deemed that will cause upset, they should disable the likes and thanks buttons on said threads, to thus show that people do not get hurt by the subliminal messages that are judged when people like/thank certain types of posts, etc etc

After many years posting in various fora I long ago came to the conclusion that I shouldn't be to precious about my posts or my OP's and the popularity of them or otherwise.
You have been strong enough to post your OP and deal with any oncoming. Why care about any perceived slights?

 

[DreamRJ]

After many years posting in various fora I long ago came to the conclusion that I shouldn't be to precious about my posts or my OP's and the popularity of them or otherwise.
You have been strong enough to post your OP and deal with any oncoming. Why care about any perceived slights?

Because we have to care about when we see things we do not agree with and or are attacking those values we hold strong to our own views. And that is what makes this whole subject one that is a fight for all of us in the gay community.

 

[geordiecolin]

Because we have to care about when we see things we do not agree with and or are attacking those values we hold strong to our own views. And that is what makes this whole subject one that is a fight for all of us in the gay community.

But RJ if we allowed everything negative that is posted online about things that we believe in get to us then we could tie ourselves in knots. There has to be a balance.

Don't allow other people's negativity live in your head rent free

 

[dunover]

Well kinda but it just proves another point about likes and thanks in forums in general. Maybe what needs to be done also. Is on threads that are political in nature and on various topics deemed that will cause upset, they should disable the likes and thanks buttons on said threads, to thus show that people do not get hurt by the subliminal messages that are judged when people like/thank certain types of posts, etc etc

WHY??? Those buttons serve a purpose, maybe someone has nothing new to contribute so mark their assent by using the 'like' button or don't have time to make a post.

So there we go again, one person suggesting or telling us how the forum should change, or be run according to their personal criteria or opinions.

It seems you have opened Pandora's box here and are now trying to slam the lid back down.

Your OP had a one or two reasonable points in it, but you're now coming across like a spoilt child not getting their own way. So I will leave the thread, I have nothing more constructive to add and I've seen enough. If you're trying to convince people of your point of view, you're going about it the wrong way.

 

[Borgie]

Because we have to care about when we see things we do not agree with and or are attacking those values we hold strong to our own views. And that is what makes this whole subject one that is a fight for all of us in the gay community.

You liked some posts in this thread - I've got no problem with that - but by your reasoning I should be throwing my toys out of my pram and storming off in to the distance - why???? I welcome other peoples input, their views and thoughts. I couldn't care less if you like their posts even if they say things, i may i said MAY, not agree with . That's your prerogative to click like - i respect your right to like the post.

I have gay friends , I have straight friends - I have religious friends etc etc - I don't have to pussy foot around them, worrying about everything I say or like and in the nicest possible way I am not going to pussyfoot around you either.

This is predominately a casino forum - so why leave it if you like talking or reading about all that sort of stuff . You will probably only ever meet a couple of us if that - we are a virtual presence and really not worth getting all upset over.

 

[goatwack]

This is probably a bad time to mention how much I prefered the old 'Thanks' button. But I'm pleased to announce that I've kinda got familiar with the duality of the new system.

I hope that clears things up

 

[interlog]

This is probably a bad time to mention how much I prefered the old 'Thanks' button. But I'm pleased to announce that I've kinda got familiar with the duality of the new system.

I hope that clears things up

Not sure whether to thank or like this post or shall I just push the boat out and press them both?

 

[goatwack]

Not sure whether to thank or like this post or shall I just push the boat out and press them both?

I knew that post was a winner :bubbles:

 

[rena35]

From what i read RJ was just voicing his opinion on some recent threads that did not sit well with him. I did not see where he was being anything but direct in his opinion. We all have different ways of expressing ourselves and getting a point across. I have had times of a terrible losing streak where i might have come across as having a tantrum after i posted about it. Not all of us are articulate in posting our thoughts and feelings to everyone's liking or understanding. Feelings are a strong emotion and i take it that the other threads may have hurt the OP's. I did scan the other thread briefly and that was a strong topic. Glad it was closed. Wish sometimes i had no emotions but even mine get hurt sometimes. A part of life whether you are a child or grown up. To air is human, to be perfect is divine.

 

[lockinlove]

While I agree that everyone has the right to voice their own opinion, but there is a time and place for it. A gambling forum really isn't the place. I can the OP's side, and now knowing he is gay I can see why he is rattled.

DreamRJ- just remember, it is 1 person's view. Not everyone here has that view. Don't let 1 moron ruin your day. They aren't worth the time or effort.

LH

The gambling forum has a section for it. Im quite content with discussions, they moderate it well. If it gets too out of hand, it is closed. If people bash others, they get infractions or banned.

As for the anything else. People have the right to their opinion as long as it doesnt turn into personal attacks/racism/bashing. I dont agree with banning anyone for their views as long as it is done within a somewhat reasonable way. While the poster made some strange comments, he clearly said it wasnt bashing (I think he was a bit trollish/bashy but ive seen way worse.) It was the premise.

There are some countries out there that ban gay marriage or anything gay. Entire religions that consist of hundreds of millions of believers that dont believe in it. So should we ban them all just because some dont agree with it? The world is made up of different views about everything. The day we start muzzling it, is the day we start to lose our freedom.

How is you threatening physical harm and constant name calling anything better? You are doing the same thing you are trying to fight for.

 

[weesie]

That was clearly not the case what so ever. I was merely showing you all, the response from someone who is gay. Which obviously doesn't count or matter one little bit.

Because obviously the point that people are showing their own true colors in threads like this. Just shows that our society still has a lot of work to do. And I am referring to the fact that the people that like and thank those posts that are basically undermining the purpose of what I was trying to say, obviously have some views of their own that they obviously are not fully going to say because well then we know why don't we. But pressing a like or thanks button to those posts that are bordering on the hateful side shows that without them even posting.

I had no agenda what so ever. I am in my right to express myself when I saw some people make 2 threads about this issue. And then other members jump in and show their own true colors as well. So enough said.

@geordiecolin - thanks but I can not stay and use a forum when I feel that I am getting attacked and suppressed for expressing some unjust's in today's society.

And also I know that CM do tackle certain things already and yes they closed the other 2 threads, which was great. But those members are still able to post. What message does that send out?

This part bothers me. A person clicks like or thanks risks getting judged just for the click they choose or not.

I only point this out because I literally got slammed by a member here, pm's here and other places, just for thanking comments that I thought brought value to the conversation. It was borderline stalking!

 

[lockinlove]

This part bothers me. A person clicks like or thanks risks getting judged just for the click they choose or not.

I only point this out because I literally got slammed by a member here, pm's here and other places, just for thanking comments that I thought brought value to the conversation. It was borderline stalking!

Sometimes I wish they would let us like our own posts

id probably like most of mine

 

[Kelly Jo]

I feel touched. I will not say where,but touched I am

Your heart obviously.....

 

[geordiecolin]

Your heart obviously.....
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Yeah,I meant that from the heart of my bottom

 

[Jasminebed]

DreamRJ, I for one would be sorry to see you go.

I think even those that do not support your views have been respectful here in this thread.

I'm having problems with my vision these days, so it took me a bit to read it all and be able to respond.

If slurs against sexual orientation/gender are not already part of the forum rules, I agree they should be.

But I don't agree one strike and you are out necessarily.

I'm more in the "every dog deserves a bite" camp, but I'm also fond of saying "I'm no baseball game, two strikes and you are out." and "my house, my rules". I routinely shut down conversations at my kitchen table that get two animated, and there are definitely words that you are not permitted to say in my house.

This is Bryan's house, and we are all his guests. It's not a right, but a privilege to be here. As guests we should not need to be told to treat the other guests with respect.

I've been here coming up on a decade, and there was not always a Political Rants section, there certainly is not one at my kitchen table, and just because I don't want it in my house, doesn't mean I don't believe in freedom of speech.

There's a report post button if you feel a member is out of line, and the mods will choose how to deal with it.

I might be someone that liked a post that was not in total agreement with the OP, I've also thanked some of his.

But is DOA is a "bugger" (derogatory towards a specific homosexual act", or my balance went "tits up" (objectifying women" something I want to pick a fight over? And I strongly suspect if I reported every post that used a turn of phrase that is perhaps not politically correct that I might find myself with a PITA infraction.

A slight derail to this thread, but I am in favour of gay marriage, if using the word "gay" is still acceptable. I haven't seen Canadian society crumble because of it.

 

[paul7388]

Was not going to post in this thread but decided i would.

I can understand why the OP started the thread.

Has been discussed lately that some threads could offend some people and that sometimes comments get took far.

But also its got to the stage where anything said these days will offend someone.

Golliwogs got banned as they are offensive. Words of songs got changed because they are offensive to others. Using the word Christmas is banned in some places as it is offensive to some.

I am Scottish and people stereotype Scots so some would find it offensive.

People make jokes about weight and bald people. That upsets and offends some people.

Even Dunovers saying while playing Rhino calling it an Orange Bastard i could find offensive as others could as its something i have been called many a time in real life for certain reasons.

Point i am making now is unless someone is deliberately setting out to cause offence and upset regularly then unfortunately not much can be done as things posted will at times offend someone. That happens when you have such a diverse community. Obviously i do not condone any sort of racism or bigotry but the world is going way to PC.

 

[benmooe]

Point i am making now is unless someone is deliberately setting out to cause offence and upset regularly then unfortunately not much can be done as things posted will at times offend someone. That happens when you have such a diverse community. Obviously i do not condone any sort of racism or bigotry but the world is going way to PC.

Again, No one here is trying to stop people from having a laugh. The thread in question was quite disturbing and the amount of people jumping in to take a quite derogatory hit at gay people was quite chilling. I want people to make jokes because it makes gay people the same as everyone else. Being too scared to offend is counter-intuitive and unfortunately there are quite loud voices out there who want that. I just don't want people questioning my right to exist on a forum that supposedly welcomes everybody.

 

[paul7388]

Again, No one here is trying to stop people from having a laugh. The thread in question was quite disturbing and the amount of people jumping in to take a quite derogatory hit at gay people was quite chilling. I want people to make jokes because it makes gay people the same as everyone else. Being too scared to offend is counter-intuitive and unfortunately there are quite loud voices out there who want that. I just don't want people questioning my right to exist on a forum that supposedly welcomes everybody.

Exactly the thread was wrong. It then got closed and OP banned and rightly so.

But like i said extremely offensive behaviour has to get dealt with.. But there are always going to be comments that will offend one member or another.

As i said there are many members on this forum that may be of different race, religion ,sexuality.

Simple comments will offend someone. But to now have posts saying that Gay people are getting made to feel like they are not welcome on this forum is a bit strong.

I would never have known what members on this forum were Gay and would have had no interest as they are just members same as everyone else. You posted that you want Gay people to be treated same as every one else but these posts are actually having the opposite effect.

Its coming across that because people are Gay then comments are more offensive to them than comments are about Muslims , race and peoples origins to them.

 

[Mouche12]

I haven't seen the thread RJDreams refers to, but it must have been offensive or he would not have started this thread.

People may have different views but as a Dutchie I live in a country that was the first in adopting legislation for same sex marriage. It is (together with Scandinavia) light years ahead of most other countries. As such, and also because I move in very diverse and tolerant circles, this is a non-issue to me - meaning that it is obvious that gay people should never be the subject of nasty but jokingly made comments or slurs. Not here. Not anywhere.

 

[slotplayer]

I haven't seen the thread RJDreams refers to, but it must have been offensive or he would not have started this thread.

People may have different views but as a Dutchie I live in a country that was the first in adopting legislation for same sex marriage. It is (together with Scandinavia) light years ahead of most other countries. As such, and also because I move in very diverse and tolerant circles, this is a non-issue to me - meaning that it is obvious that gay people should never be the subject of nasty but jokingly made comments or slurs. Not here. Not anywhere.

Are you light years ahead on humility?

 

[Steviedoo]

Are you light years ahead on humility?

Hahahahaha....you could be funny.

 

[Kelly Jo]

Are you light years ahead on humility?

There is no shame in laggging a bit behind. Most of us here are justifiably impressed with the sound of our own voices. It's just that some are considerate enough to offer enlightened information as a bonus



IMO:Both are equally as impressive as the other.

This is why I am often torn with regard to discussions like this.
I enjoyed the humor from your post very much, but the thought that it may have hurt Mouche's feelings dampens my initial outburst of laughter.

*Sigh...

 

[DreamRJ]

I just thought I would add this.

I find the fact that people are now joking in this thread to be very distasteful to say the least.