My sad experience with slot

rng negative endless

Hi all , after a week saturday make a deposit of € 148 , arrive early to € 149 (+1) then I lose the cash quickly ,
then last night for the first time ask to chat a bonus , give me € 150 wager 40x (after more than 8k lost) ,
never been to win, lost again the cash quickly.
I asked him to support for e-mail my rtp because after 50 days the situation is really funny.
I sent a private message here at Redbet manager a week ago without
be answered.
Cheers.;)
 
They replied that they can not calculate my global RTP (catastrophic RTP) ,
but I have to calculate it by entering in my profile but I have written to me that is not easy:confused:.
Given the small size of the bonuses offered in comparison to the amount lost, the manager who did not answer at pm,
an evasive answer on my rtp which of course is low, is not zero because it corresponds to the fact that I have
never performed the withdrawal of a winning (but one in loss of € 38 clearly ironic) , I know, but it is definitely very low,
the speed with which constantly lose money for 50 days , my opinion on Redbet (who also is an accredited casino) is
becoming very negative:mad:
Cheers.
 
There is another thing also, that you say that millions of spins to get to the RTP this is also false. I would say if you do 100 000 spins you should be getting the RTP of the game. Or atleast close to it.

The odds of winning or losing is the same each time you play, but it is not really the same as it is not likley that the same result will happen even if the casino has 4% edge.

Look at it this way flipp a coin and its 50/50, but do it 10 times and you might get head more than tails, but do this 1000 times and you will se something close to 50/50. And fore slots with a 96% RTP fore a player to lose, lets say 100 deposits in a row playing the same game is very unlikly if its truly random. Even if the odds are the same everytime. The odds of getting the opposite result will also increase with each deposit.

In probability theory, the law of large numbers (LLN) is a theorem that describes the result of performing the same experiment a large number of times. According to the law, the average of the results obtained from a large number of trials should be close to the expected value, and will tend to become closer as more trials are performed. Hence the more you play the more the variance evens out.

I have had runs in casinos losing 30-40 deposits in a row with the absolute worst results. And im pretty sure the games are not random, but work on some other mechanic. This player should IMO accept his losses at redbet and run far,far away from that casino because in my experience if you start to lose like that in a casino you will never win anything in that casino.
 
Redbet made me find the account a bonus of 700 € but has wagered 40x, then 28k, practically,
given the dire statistics that I've had so far, it is a mission impossible.
Anyway it was my choice to play here, so the error was mine, I like whatwhat, after several deposits
with disastrous results I should abandon Redbet instead I continued to try to recover something
and it has been getting worse.
The last two weeks I still paid very little, because in the end lose constantly makes you pass
the desire to play, and this is the positive however.
I update you on the outcome anyway even if it is almost taken for granted.
Thanks for bonus Alex (Rep Redbet).
Cheers.
 
Redbet made me find the account a bonus of 700 € but has wagered 40x, then 28k, practically,
given the dire statistics that I've had so far, it is a mission impossible.
Anyway it was my choice to play here, so the error was mine, I like whatwhat, after several deposits
with disastrous results I should abandon Redbet instead I continued to try to recover something
and it has been getting worse.
The last two weeks I still paid very little, because in the end lose constantly makes you pass
the desire to play, and this is the positive however.
I update you on the outcome anyway even if it is almost taken for granted.
Thanks for bonus Alex (Rep Redbet).
Cheers.

If it was me. I would A) if i win, continue to play there in the future. B) If lose, accept losses and close account.

I am in a simular situation now with another reputable casino(not going to mention name here) Lost 22 deposits in a row pluss a comp bonus.

In total comp and deposits its 2470 euros spinning at 0.40-1 on average i have a RTP of 70% witch is so horribly bad. I cant even get bonus rounds on half my deposits on games that when i play elswhere i get regular bonus rounds. Ive decided to give them one more deposit next month and if i dont get any better results, im jumping ship. These kind of situations makes me feel they are rigging the games indivdually.

Maybe giving players lower RTP, im not sure. I read on another forum where many players think that netent themselves are running some kind of accounting on each player. Maybe they keep track of IP adresses or whatever. Not sure because everytime i win on a certain game its dead across every casino. And especially if you cash out from a casino you will always lose and lose until you lost all or more back.

People will say this is psycological and humans see patterns where there are non, bla bla bla.. Its pretty obvious that these games are controlled in some manner. I have won thats why i play, because i know its possible to win big, but im pretty sure things dont work 100% as they say. I myself find myself losing more often now than before and have cut back allot on my play since it seams near impossible to win anything these days.
 
Why would any slot designer/manufacturer want to rig their slots when they are designed to make money for the casino without any interference by anybody? They are literally cash cows for any casino because the way they are designed to give a good percentage of what is put in straight into the casino coffers.

If this rigging (at slot level, i.e. Netent as indicated in the previous post) were to be the case and if it ever were to come out, that'll surely be the end of online casinos.
 
Why would any slot designer/manufacturer want to rig their slots when they are designed to make money for the casino without any interference by anybody? They are literally cash cows for any casino because the way they are designed to give a good percentage of what is put in straight into the casino coffers.

If this rigging (at slot level, i.e. Netent as indicated in the previous post) were to be the case and if it ever were to come out, that'll surely be the end of online casinos.

This is why the secrets and truths are buried in an indestructible capsule buried miles below the bottom of the deepest Oceans :rolleyes: ;)
 
Hi all , i have incredibly reached wagered request with a balance of just over € 2.000, I requested the withdrawal,
I wanted to post winner video but apparently I can't get big wins on Redbet, reach wagered was a huge effort,
i recovered only a quarter of the amount deposited but I must be content to strength.
Thank you Alex for bonus.
Cheers.
 
Obvious Epilogue

Hi all, after seventy-five days the very negative trend has not changed, when it was good the only slot that allowed me to break even with
deposits made within 24-48 hours is Gorilla Go Wild ... Raging Rhino, Montezuma, Dead or Alive are been a disaster
for seventy-four days ... had one good day ... seventy-five days are a more than adequate to see a trend in the long term ...
i was never able to have the satisfaction of winning a decent amount to comparison of the amounts deposited ...
accordingly as well as expensive now the game had become predictable and boring ...on 32red the situation is different ...
so today I closed the account on Redbet with a 80% loss that is really terrible but it was the only thing to do to not worsen the budget...
clearly it's just my experience.
Cheers.
 

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