My online slots videos (plus UK AWPs)

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Was out at the pub with some friends yesterday, had a punt on the random £500 jackpot machine in the pool room.

That video reminds me of why in nearly 2 decades a coin has not passed from me to a AWP or £500 machine in the UK.
 

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That video reminds me of why in nearly 2 decades a coin has not passed from me to a AWP or £500 machine in the UK.

It played like an absolute bag of spanners there unfortunately, didn't even get to see a feature.

It's basically just an online slot though, albeit one with a very modest 250x stake top prize.

I don't think you can really draw any equivalence between compensated AWPs and random machines though, and even though I was able to consistently profit on AWPs (post-2001), I can't say I'm sorry to see the back of them, random games give everyone a fair crack of the whip.
 

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Not much of a fair crack of the whip at £1 stake on 80% with a max prize of £100 like in most UK pubs.

That sort of garbage has killed the AWP market not just for professionals but for casuals as well. I mean have u actually played some of the filth they’re putting out? It’s a fucking disgrace. Even Mr Addict would have to think twice.
 

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We don't have any of the £100 UK style random machines here, they're all £500ers and the lowest RTP I've seen them set to is 88%, generally speaking they're 90% or 92%, the highest I've seen is 94%.

TBH I still think a random game on a low RTP is a better bet for the average punter than any sort of compensated AWP (which lest we forget are generally set to 74/76/78%). How much of a game do you think was left for anyone on an Alien that players were on top of :)
 

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one question, just curiosity, please don't look any irony or sarcasm in it, I am from a diferent Country and from a different culture.

I am just trying to understand :)

when you see on such a machine written "RTP 94%" or when you see on a online casino declared "RTP 96%" or such, do you REALLY believe it ?

if yes, do you belive it because you think that these Companies have an ethic ? or because you know that there is some Governative Compamy which is REALLY checking them ? or for whatever other reason ?
 

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We don't have any of the £100 UK style random machines here, they're all £500ers and the lowest RTP I've seen them set to is 88%, generally speaking they're 90% or 92%, the highest I've seen is 94%.

TBH I still think a random game on a low RTP is a better bet for the average punter than any sort of compensated AWP (which lest we forget are generally set to 74/76/78%). How much of a game do you think was left for anyone on an Alien that players were on top of :)
Unless that game had a huge chunk of RTP allocated to the three features, then it didn't seem like 94% to me. I didn't count exactly, but each £20 seemed to give you 35-40 spins so your RTP for the £80 was something like 50%

I tried to emulate your (admittedly very short and limited) RTP in the rtp calculator:

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I got quite near trying 50%

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Fucking dreadful performance, this video should deter all but the most determined headcases from playing those slots!
 

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There's an awful lot of RTP in those three features, if you don't hit the features then it will take you to pieces.

That said I once hit a full screen of sharks for 250x stake (top prize), and I had five bombs which paid 150x last year.

Base game hits are generally what you see in the video, 0.5x-5x stake.
 

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Unless that game had a huge chunk of RTP allocated to the three features, then it didn't seem like 94% to me. I didn't count exactly, but each £20 seemed to give you 35-40 spins so your RTP for the £80 was something like 50%

I tried to emulate your (admittedly very short and limited) RTP in the rtp calculator:

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I got quite near trying 50%

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Fucking dreadful performance, this video should deter all but the most determined headcases from playing those slots!

Well, firstly there is two versions of this game ( Hard or Soft ) and the player will have no idea which one they are playing, as the 3 features hit rate stay identical.

As with with any game when your not hitting features you're effectively playing a much lower RTP so as he didn't hit any features he was effectively playing with a 67% RTP on this game.

Hardly a surprising result from the small sample of spins he had from the over 10 billion unique reel outcomes.
 

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I have the par sheets :) But for obvious reasons I can't share exact stats.

I didn't realise they had hard and soft profiles, there are still loads of these around here (Ocean's Eleven and Knight's Tale which seems like a clone/semi-clone maths wise), although if the feature frequency remains the same that seems like a strange way to do the profiles.

Either way, if you're not hitting the features, they are harsh games to play!
 

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Whilst you're about @ChopleyIOM ,

Not signed up to Desert Island Fruits (yet) but wanted to ask, does a dedicated section on there sell 'physical' AWP's or old Club machines?

Looked on e-bay over the years but never seen much of a selection, plus I'd also want original ROMS rather than re-chips.

Used to have 4 when I lived with parents but they were very old and long gone now.
 

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Whilst you're about @ChopleyIOM ,

Not signed up to Desert Island Fruits (yet) but wanted to ask, does a dedicated section on there sell 'physical' AWP's or old Club machines?

Looked on e-bay over the years but never seen much of a selection, plus I'd also want original ROMS rather than re-chips.

Used to have 4 when I lived with parents but they were very old and long gone now.

Hi Jono there's both a 'Real Fruit Machines' and a 'Buy & Sell' forum over at Desert Island Fruits, and even if you can't find what you're after there will be people there you can get in touch with who have access to real machines for sale.

That said however, getting hold of machines with early ROMs in them will be pretty hard work, because of course most real machines out in the wild would have been rechipped back in the day.

TBH if you're wanting to play early ROMs on machines then your best bet is the emulator, as over the years quite a few 'holy grail' early ROM sets have been unearthed and made available to the entire fruit machine emulation scene, which of course can then be loaded into a layout quite easily, rather than trying to get them dumped back out to a physical ROM set that can be put into a real machine.
 

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Project's Chico The Bandit, originally released on a £6 jackpot, running here with slightly later £8 ROMs as the original £6 ROMs have to date, not been found.

 

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Certainly on the £6 version if it was exchanging all the way down to melons(showing value) then it was a genuine skill stop when you got the jail feature. It wasn’t a random stop as you said at the start. If there was no value it would slip off the decent ones. Altho it didn’t stop straight away as most skill stops did it would just rotate round once and land where you hit it.

This was a great machine for turning ur tokens into cash as once happy taking the £3 repeat win didn’t seem to stop it from exchanging all the way down if constantly playing with tokens.

It’s like it needed to pay the jackpot to go dead. Had a few of these in pubs which I always use to use my various tokens in from various arcades as the mech pretty much took any kind of tokens grooved or not.

Once I’d had the cash out could then take a couple of jackpots to leave with. Wait for cash to go back in and repeat.

Theg didn’t really streak tho, you were probably getting the odd decent gold rush which was value held over.

Project did some great hi tecs back in the day.

They’re balls of Steele and Marvin Flair were two of the greatest AWP’s ever made IMO. £15 cash jackpots if I remember. Amazing games. I actually bought a balls of Steele back in the good old days. Had a banging soundtrack.
 

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Cheers PMK interesting stuff :) I've had a few people leave comments on the video echoing much of what you said there.

I played these back in my clueless addict days so didn't know anything about them in terms of tricks or strategy, I just remember them seeming to give me a fairer game than a lot of other stuff that was around at the time.

I'll give the things you've suggested there, and also the stuff that was left in the comments, and revisit the machine - it might be worth a follow-on video demonstrating optimal strategy :)

I absolutely love these old AWPs, I've played Chico The Bandit for a slightly embarrassing amount of time over the last few days :D (Certainly cheaper than playing at online casinos!)
 

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It was a decent machine tbf. I’m not suggesting you could get more cash out than the tokens you put in but you got a great return and as I said unless you got a run of repeats it didn’t seem to kill it wanting to give you the jackpot as a true skill stop when in jail. Thus allowing entrance to jail on the majority of boards and not blocking the £3 repeater.

I’d love to have a crack on balls of Steele again but it’s difficult to even find a pic of so I presume on the emulation side I’m clutching at straws?

Do you ever remember seeing one?
 

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Ignore me, being silly. I though it was a video from the past week but it's 2 months old :oops:

OK cool glad the mystery is solved :)

The channel is very searchable (especially for the fruit machine emulation stuff), so just type of the name of the machine you're looking for into the channel's search bar and it'll return good results. I went through every video on the channel last year and made sure every video was searchable by machine name, and I've kept that up ever since.
 
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