My life is being threatened

In my experience, players who are quick to chargeback have probably done it before and will probably do it again.
Thanks for sharing your experience(s).

I read a scientific study once whereby the data concluded very similar to what you assert from your experience(s) above. Of course the scientific study applied to serial killers only.:rolleyes:
 
Thanks for sharing your experience(s).

I read a scientific study once whereby the data concluded very similar to what you assert from your experience(s) above. Of course the scientific study applied to serial killers only.:rolleyes:

I didnt say anything about my experience being backed by scientific evidence - I just said it was my experience.

You know, Nash, you are obviously intelligent and have a good knowledge of the gaming industry. It's such a shame that you can't bring yourself to share it without putting others down and implying that everyone else is intellectually inferior. I actually agree with many of your points of view, but I don't agree with the way you often treat other members with disdain.

Change the record Nash, it's boring.

(Sorry for the derail peeps)
 
This guy is full of #@$%, someone please close him down and send him on his way

Maybe so, but the eWallet looks pretty shady too! The fact is, they "burned" him when he was working to get them some casinos. This itself shows up their business ethic, which seems to be to do what they can get away with.
The mistake he made was to continue using this eWallet as a player despite already knowing how shadily they did business. When hit by this 90 day BS rule, he lost his nerve and charged back, rather than wait, and press for the winnings in due course, after which he could have exited from ALL relationships with this eWallet.
Having charged back, the eWallet showed yet again that it was run by "thugs". These threats are what you expect from "loan sharks" and the criminal underworld when you "bounce" a payment for contraband. It has no place in a legitimate eWallet business. There are legal ways the eWallet could use to recover their money, and in any case, I thought he had WON, so the eWallet WOULD be getting the money in 90 days, and as punishment for charging back they could confiscate it, rather than forward it to diamondale.

Their reaction to the chargebacks seems to suggest that the eWallet KNOWS this money will NOT be coming from the casino, not even after 90 days, thus the eWallet HAS lost out on the deposits, and the casino has kept them (or intends to keep them). The sums involved must be considerable, so they are making all the threats they can in order to pressure diamondale to give it back, maybe they NEED this money back to save the business.

The ONLY casinos I know of that ROUTINELY take 90 days to pay are those run by the Virtual group, and their cloaked sister groups. Any eWallet that ties up with this lot deserves what they get.

Diamondale is not merely an innocent player, he DID work for the eWallet, and should have done his research BEFORE putting his OWN money in their hands (and their partnered casinos). WHY trust an eWallet that just "burned" you in a business deal to be honest when dealing with your PERSONAL monies?
 
Diamondale is not merely an innocent player, he DID work for the eWallet, and should have done his research BEFORE putting his OWN money in their hands (and their partnered casinos). WHY trust an eWallet that just "burned" you in a business deal to be honest when dealing with your PERSONAL monies?


This is true BUT When I first read this post it sure was Presented to me/us in a Whole different way then it turned out to be.....
That to me shows" intent to deceive"...which in turn makes me suspicious from that point on on ANY so called facts ....
Thats All I'm saying ......
 
WHY SHOULD ANYONE BE BURNED

Casinos were Vegas frontier, curgam group and cleopatras palace casino all seemed good but then when i won no response and no answer from any managers was always told contact tommorow this went on for months and i certainly was not going to let them keep my deposits,Told money line constantly could they help and contact those places they said they wernt involved it was between me and the casinos but they wouldnt answer me.2nd it wasnt alot of money deposited with the ewallet but they ballooned it 4 times. If this keeps happening we the consumer are not protected in anyway why should we lose out. I know trust the casino but why do ewallets let these shady places sign up for there services if they know in the past these places have burned to many bridges.Dont we deserve protection in anyway?:mad:
 
Casinos were Vegas frontier, curgam group and cleopatras palace casino all seemed good but then when i won no response and no answer from any managers was always told contact tommorow this went on for months and i certainly was not going to let them keep my deposits,Told money line constantly could they help and contact those places they said they wernt involved it was between me and the casinos but they wouldnt answer me.2nd it wasnt alot of money deposited with the ewallet but they ballooned it 4 times. If this keeps happening we the consumer are not protected in anyway why should we lose out. I know trust the casino but why do ewallets let these shady places sign up for there services if they know in the past these places have burned to many bridges.Dont we deserve protection in anyway?:mad:

Curgam group....they've been featured on CM's forum before...and not in a good way.
 
Entertaining as Diamondale may be, I believe that this thread is one of many where this player has had serious issues.

@Diamondale - you are aware of the forum rules - specifically rule 1.10

1.10 - Members who commit player fraud (chargebacks, fake accounts, gnoming, multiple accounts, etc.) will be banned from the forum.

It has been brought to my attention that you've made a series of chargebacks at least at one of the casinos listed here. What's up with that?
 
Entertaining as Diamondale may be, I believe that this thread is one of many where this player has had serious issues.

@Diamondale - you are aware of the forum rules - specifically rule 1.10



It has been brought to my attention that you've made a series of chargebacks at least at one of the casinos listed here. What's up with that?

It wasnt the casino it was money line wallet cause the casinos they represent wouldnt pay me my winnings was told by money line wallet i haD to wait 90 days thats a crock, i never heard of waiting that long for funds
 
Wait I'm confused. As I understand it (please correct me if I am wrong) it is the casinos that aren't paying you your winnings but you charged back deposits to the e-wallet. So if I am reading this right you deposited through the ewallet to a casino, won some money which they aren't withdrawing to you and so you charge back the ewallet (which has done nothing wrong) so that they are out of pocket. Is this correct? You keep referring to the ewallet saying it would take 90 days but this should surely be the casinos saying that? So in essence you took money from an ewallet that did it's job (not it's fault that the casino won't pay you).

I agree the threats are unacceptable but this situation does not sound right. Can you clarify because if I am reading it right your issue is with the casinos not paying, not the ewallet (other than them threatening you of course which is totally unacceptable and suggests 'thuggish, criminal' behaviour). There is no way I can blame my ewallet (who is associated with many many casinos) if it is the casino refusing to pay. These are two separate businesses. All in all your own behaviour in this sounds equally unacceptable.
 
Wait I'm confused. As I understand it (please correct me if I am wrong) it is the casinos that aren't paying you your winnings but you charged back deposits to the e-wallet. So if I am reading this right you deposited through the ewallet to a casino, won some money which they aren't withdrawing to you and so you charge back the ewallet (which has done nothing wrong) so that they are out of pocket. Is this correct? You keep referring to the ewallet saying it would take 90 days but this should surely be the casinos saying that? So in essence you took money from an ewallet that did it's job (not it's fault that the casino won't pay you).

I agree the threats are unacceptable but this situation does not sound right. Can you clarify because if I am reading it right your issue is with the casinos not paying, not the ewallet (other than them threatening you of course which is totally unacceptable and suggests 'thuggish, criminal' behaviour). There is no way I can blame my ewallet (who is associated with many many casinos) if it is the casino refusing to pay. These are two separate businesses. All in all your own behaviour in this sounds equally unacceptable.

Is this casino simply not paying? If so the only logical recourse for the OP is to dispute the e-wallet transaction, if not he's out his deposit along with his winnings. Better than being out-of-pocket.

I'm a firm believer every supplier in this industry should be established and verified before accreditation and not just the casino's but e-wallets and suppliers too.
 
Wait I'm confused. As I understand it (please correct me if I am wrong) it is the casinos that aren't paying you your winnings but you charged back deposits to the e-wallet. So if I am reading this right you deposited through the ewallet to a casino, won some money which they aren't withdrawing to you and so you charge back the ewallet (which has done nothing wrong) so that they are out of pocket. Is this correct? You keep referring to the ewallet saying it would take 90 days but this should surely be the casinos saying that? So in essence you took money from an ewallet that did it's job (not it's fault that the casino won't pay you).

I agree the threats are unacceptable but this situation does not sound right. Can you clarify because if I am reading it right your issue is with the casinos not paying, not the ewallet (other than them threatening you of course which is totally unacceptable and suggests 'thuggish, criminal' behaviour). There is no way I can blame my ewallet (who is associated with many many casinos) if it is the casino refusing to pay. These are two separate businesses. All in all your own behaviour in this sounds equally unacceptable.

IMO Diamondale is deliberately making it confusing.

First he states a casino wont pay so he has to charge back because they were making him wait 90 days, then it was the e-wallet that was holding his funds for 90 days.....and all of this on top of the fact he failed to mention he was an agent/affiliate for the e-wallet (it was uncovered by the membership).

Who knows what the actual truth is? Diamondale....but he has consistently avoided the direct questions put to him by CM and others - hardly the behaviour of someone who is the 'victim'.

@Diamondale - apparently CM says you charged back against a CM-listed casino - and none of the 3 you mention are listed, so there must indeed be other chargebacks which you failed to mention. CM will know the exact details from his contacts, so you may as well be honest as you will be called on it.

Maybe Nash and his serial killer research applies to more than just serial killers after all eh? :rolleyes:

Everything we have read so far from you fails to explain the situation in a way that anyone can understand, so maybe you could break it down for us?
 
IMO Diamondale is deliberately making it confusing.

First he states a casino wont pay so he has to charge back because they were making him wait 90 days, then it was the e-wallet that was holding his funds for 90 days.....and all of this on top of the fact he failed to mention he was an agent/affiliate for the e-wallet (it was uncovered by the membership).

Who knows what the actual truth is? Diamondale....but he has consistently avoided the direct questions put to him by CM and others - hardly the behaviour of someone who is the 'victim'.

@Diamondale - apparently CM says you charged back against a CM-listed casino - and none of the 3 you mention are listed, so there must indeed be other chargebacks which you failed to mention. CM will know the exact details from his contacts, so you may as well be honest as you will be called on it.

Maybe Nash and his serial killer research applies to more than just serial killers after all eh? :rolleyes:

Everything we have read so far from you fails to explain the situation in a way that anyone can understand, so maybe you could break it down for us?

So your telling me if i deposit with an ewallet casino screws me im out all that money, Casino wont respond period so just forget about it. Look i have rights if someone who is representing someone why should they not be responsible why should i get burned,shouldnt ewallets represent honest casinos instead of crooks.Over the yrs ive been burned to many times and im not going to just turnaway this time. Like i said im not an atm and im just fighting back if an ewallet can not get my funds then they are equally responsible im sure this happens alot but if you wait over 90 days they win bank will do nothing your out what you deposited but by law theres a 90 day period you can get your money back and i didnt trust that i was getting my winnings already it was 60 days thats 2 months and no response from casino just telling me they would contact me but i heard this for 60 days,And over 2,000 and never seeing a dime and thats what i deposited so i didnt break even i just sent my money hoping to get it baCK and your telling me i just have to wait.Yes bryan might be casinomeister but hes not god and im not going to be out 2,000.
 
...Yes bryan might be casinomeister but hes not god and im not going to be out 2,000.
Geeze, dude. Get a life.

You've had nothing but problems with online casinos, and most of these problems stem from a lack of self-discipline.

Yes, you've made chargebacks at a casino listed here - it has nothing to do with this thread - which in itself is totally bizarre, e.g. your touting this ewallet, and then acting like they are going to bump you off.

IMO, I feel you ought to find another form of entertainment. This seems to be a bit much for you.
 
Well, I'm glad you told your tale, and I'm not impressed with the alleged threats by the ewallet. I won't be doing business with them.

But you've been a Casinomeister member for a while, and you know the policy on chargebacks.

It was your choice to deposit with these casinos. The ewallet paid them on your behalf. If it had not, you would have had no credits to play with.

It is your responsibility to ensure where you play is fair and timely. These casinos have not even denied your winnings. It is not the ewallet's fault you chose to deposit and play. It is not the ewallet you placed a bet with, they are not making you wait for funds already in your account.

Don't you get that you didn't charge back to the casino, but a third party payment processor?

I do hope you are safe, but you are getting no sympathy from me in this situation.
 
Maybe Nash and his serial killer research applies to more than just serial killers after all eh? :rolleyes:
Oh my, I just never realized the recidivism of serial "chargebackers" so that is 3, no , make that 4 thumbs up to you. Glad to know that this major international threat and crisis will be addressed accordingly at the next G7. For more info., google "SERIAL CHARGEBACKERS" LIKELY TO FACE AN INTERNATIONAL FIRING SQUAD".:D
 
Can any of the US players tell me if Moneyline Wallet and MyPayLinQ are the same thing? Or two different ewallets? I'm asking because I just checked at Inetbet and see that they have MyPayLinQ as a deposit/withdrawal option, but I don't see Moneylinewallet.

I would "assume" that an established casino such as Inetbet would do their due diligence before adding any new ewallets.....which is why I'm wondering if they are the same thing, or different?

Also, there is a thread in the Payment Processing section re: both of these ewallets/names, and one poster did have problems with Moneylinewallet double charging his bank account, ie. took out four deposits instead of two. And a cursory glance of the FAQ at MLW, show that there is a thirty day waiting period on all withdrawals. Wondering if this is what the OP is talking about perhaps...although they mentioned ninety days.

I'd like to know which casinos accept this MLW as a deposit/withdrawal option? And which casino the OP played at...and if he asked for their assistance before doing the chargeback. I'm only asking because a chargeback should be a last resort, when you see no other hope of recovering your funds. It can negatively affect you down the road, often not popping up until you've initiated a withdrawal at a casino, and a standard security check is done.

I for one am sorry to see they are offering MyPayLinq. I signed up with them, won at a casino and was told I'd have to wait 30 days to be paid, as all new account holders have to deposit MORE than the amount of the first withdrawal. WTF. I had a hell of a time changing my payout method, but Bodog took care of it for me. I just think it's an awful Ewallet!
 

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