My life is being threatened

[diamondale]

Well i did use moneyline wallet for my deposit method seems the casinos there processing for arent paying winnings. I told my bank about this and had to do a chargeback on them cause i wasnt getting any of my winnings saying its takes 90 days to casinos to pay people this is unheard of.Then i get my money back from my bank and i get a phone call threatening my life coming from Dave Stewart of moneyline wallet saying i owe them more then what i dont reaLLY owe them do to crooked casinos and crooks online,Being there new online id avoid them threatening to kill someone im just very upset now. I get screwed outta money what do they expect from me just to give my money up and forget about my winnings nope i got some of my money back ive contacted the police the bbb and fbi im not happy about these tactics what should i do?

 

[LaurieJim]

Well i did use moneyline wallet for my deposit method seems the casinos there processing for arent paying winnings. I told my bank about this and had to do a chargeback on them cause i wasnt getting any of my winnings saying its takes 90 days to casinos to pay people this is unheard of.Then i get my money back from my bank and i get a phone call threatening my life coming from Dave Stewart of moneyline wallet saying i owe them more then what i dont reaLLY owe them do to crooked casinos and crooks online,Being there new online id avoid them threatening to kill someone im just very upset now. I get screwed outta money what do they expect from me just to give my money up and forget about my winnings nope i got some of my money back ive contacted the police the bbb and fbi im not happy about these tactics what should i do?

What casino is this and who is this Dave Stewart person? This is some scary shit diamondale, for anyones life to be threatened over gaming and money.

Laurie

 

[skiny]

First of all, unless you're into them for one hell of a lot of money I seriously doubt anyone's going to fly across the country or the planet to kill you for it.

Second of all, if this phone call came from a casino or some sort of ewallet or whoever you charged the money back from I think everyone here should know now so nobody else gets robbed or threatened.

(Not that I care if I get threats.... I was married for 15 years. Threats on my life don't scare me anymore.... Come to think of it, I should be used to getting robbed by now too.)

 

[reda]

@ Skiny. lol sorry i know this is not a laughing matter but your post made me smile.

@diamondale i hope you get to the bottom of all this. i havent had this type of problem before so i cant offer much help.

 

[Pinababy69]

What casino is this and who is this Dave Stewart person?

Second of all, if this phone call came from a casino or some sort of ewallet or whoever you charged the money back from I think everyone here should know now so nobody else gets robbed or threatened.

Diamondale said that Dave Stewart is with Moneyline Wallet.

i get a phone call threatening my life coming from Dave Stewart of moneyline wallet

Like Skiny said, I seriously doubt anyone is going to fly around the world, or send anyone after you...unless it's some huge chunk of change you're talking about. If he called back, I'd tell him to go eff himself...but that's just me.

I'd like to know more about the story itself ie. which casino were you playing at, how do you fund this Moneyline Wallet, did you win and the casino didn't pay back to the ewallet, is this Moneyline Wallet saying they can't send you your money even though they received it from the casino? Not sure I understand exactly what happened.

If they are some kind of ripoff, you should give us some details so that no other US players, who are desperate for deposit/withdrawal methods, fall into the same trap.

 

[voltage1]

If he called back, I'd tell him to go eff himself...

Ditto

If they are some kind of ripoff, you should give us some details so that no other US players, who are desperate for deposit/withdrawal methods, fall into the same trap.

Yes, Please tell us more , it would be valuable information indeed .
Thanks
Volt

 

[skiny]

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[Pinababy69]

Can any of the US players tell me if Moneyline Wallet and MyPayLinQ are the same thing? Or two different ewallets? I'm asking because I just checked at Inetbet and see that they have MyPayLinQ as a deposit/withdrawal option, but I don't see Moneylinewallet.

I would "assume" that an established casino such as Inetbet would do their due diligence before adding any new ewallets.....which is why I'm wondering if they are the same thing, or different?

Also, there is a thread in the Payment Processing section re: both of these ewallets/names, and one poster did have problems with Moneylinewallet double charging his bank account, ie. took out four deposits instead of two. And a cursory glance of the FAQ at MLW, show that there is a thirty day waiting period on all withdrawals. Wondering if this is what the OP is talking about perhaps...although they mentioned ninety days.

I'd like to know which casinos accept this MLW as a deposit/withdrawal option? And which casino the OP played at...and if he asked for their assistance before doing the chargeback. I'm only asking because a chargeback should be a last resort, when you see no other hope of recovering your funds. It can negatively affect you down the road, often not popping up until you've initiated a withdrawal at a casino, and a standard security check is done.

 

[stevohhh]

@diamondale

question! I thought you worked for/with them or something...??

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/39462/

 

[voltage1]

@diamondale

question! I thought you worked for/with them or something...??

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/39462/

Yeah....WTF is up with that.....sure looks like you were advertising in that post....Tell me I'm seeing things
Thanks stevohhh for pointing that out ....


one more thing .....Diamondale did you sign this ??

Looking forward to doing business with you. Warren J. Hersch and Dave Stewart

or is that who you are talking too

I smell a Fish

 

[Nifty29]

OK here is a fact for starters:

DIAMONDALE = WARREN J HERSCH

(How do I know this? The excerpt below is from one of Diamondales' old posts.....)

Subject: Dear Warren,
To: jayhersch@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 9:10 AM

Dear Warren,

I apologize for the late reply, however I just arrived at the office

Diamondale/Warren.... it is time to come clean.

It seems you are one of the owners of MoneyLineWallet, and have perhaps been threatened by your business partner......I cant see how else this pans out. In any case, it is a long way from an innocent player being screwed and threatened by a dodgy operator.

If you want help from people here, the requirement is very simple:

Be Honest, or get lost!!!

 

[taysh075]

@diamondale

question! I thought you worked for/with them or something...??

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/39462/

Oh my god. I was going to post my concerns etc as I was reading down the thread then hit your post Stevohhh. Man you are like the casinomeister detective. What would I do without you :notworthy The situation is definately dodgy.

 

[maxd]

Just for the record diamondale has contacted me offline with his concerns over these threats. I've asked for some proof, just to keep things on the up-and-up.

Good work stevohhh and Nifty on sniffing out the Warren Hersch connection.

 

[Pinababy69]

Well i did use moneyline wallet for my deposit method seems the casinos there processing for arent paying winnings. I told my bank about this and had to do a chargeback on them cause i wasnt getting any of my winnings saying its takes 90 days to casinos to pay people this is unheard of.Then i get my money back from my bank and i get a phone call threatening my life coming from Dave Stewart of moneyline wallet saying i owe them more then what i dont reaLLY owe them do to crooked casinos and crooks online,Being there new online id avoid them threatening to kill someone im just very upset now. I get screwed outta money what do they expect from me just to give my money up and forget about my winnings nope i got some of my money back ive contacted the police the bbb and fbi im not happy about these tactics what should i do?

So I'm assuming this whole post is nothing but a huge pile of shit then? Pretending like he was using Moneylinewallet as a customer only? And total ignorance of Dave Stewart...like it's someone he didn't even know? Ummm...yeah Dave Stewart of MLW.

Maybe the threats are real..and if so, they are from his business partner, and who knows which one screwed who?

If you deceive people like this, no wonder people threaten you. I'm with Nifty on this one. You should be ashamed of yourself, no sympathy from me.

 

[jetset]

David Stewart does not appear to regard diamondale as a partner, despite the latter's apparent claims in his opening post at: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/39462/

In post #4 on that thread, Stewart writes:

"Be advised that Warren Hersch is not associated with MLW and he has made multiple chargebacks against several casinos."

Interestingly, the profile for dhs lists the following:

"David H Stewart is Owner of MiamiPokerCasino.Com with a license from www.GamesCities.Com"

 

[Nifty29]

David Stewart does not appear to regard diamondale as a partner, despite the latter's apparent claims in his opening post at: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/39462/

In post #4 on that thread, Stewart writes:

"Be advised that Warren Hersch is not associated with MLW and he has made multiple chargebacks against several casinos."

Interestingly, the profile for dhs lists the following:

"David H Stewart is Owner of MiamiPokerCasino.Com with a license from www.GamesCities.Com"

The thot plickens.....

 

[Nate]

Diamondale... please avail yourself to Clarify the issue... ???

 

[chayton]

Facebook movie? I'll watch this instead.
:eat:

 

[Luckylizzy]

If you want help and for people to actually care, please make sure you tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. That means telling the entire story. Seriously, honesty is the only way to go and always will be. Lying gets you nowhere except into trouble and purposefully excluding part of the truth is the same thing as lying in my book.

But there is definitely no excuse for threatening someone's life. I hope you are safe and that you can get things cleared up without anything crazy happening.

 

[Mousey]

Reading some of diamonddales previous posts this afternoon... I'm seeing indications of a problem gambler, in over his head, doing chargebacks in some sort of desperate move to recover some of his funds... other than that... I think there's a lot more to this than we've been told. All strictly MO, of course... and gut instinct... and the faint smell of sushi....

Max and Bryan... have at it... LOL

Someone pass the bier... :eat:

 

[dominique]

Yet another example of super sleuthing at Casinomeister! Gotta love this forum!

 

[maxd]

I've asked for some proof, just to keep things on the up-and-up.

DD reported back, unrecorded phone conversations.

 

[diamondale]

Money line wallet bad way to deal with customers

Yet another example of super sleuthing at Casinomeister! Gotta love this forum!

I was working for the guy on the side commision setting up casinos for them but that ended cause i did get a group to sign up but got burned someone else took my deal. So yes im a player at number of casinos. and i was burned by 3 of them never got my winnings. I was told by dave stewart at money line wallet that it takes 90 days to get my funds from these casinos this i know was a crock, so i called my bank got some of my funds back. Then i got a phone call saying if i didnt give back the money i would be killed they would take it outta my ass also stating i owed them 4 times what i deposited with them that is very frightening i called police here and filed a report. This wallet is very shady Look ive been burned so many times why should i just let them take my money im not an atm nor a charity. i deserve protection if casinos there representing dont pay why should i be out my deposits. Plus casinos haVE 90 days where did this rule come from. I would just suggest avoiding money line wallet lives being threatened over money thats why i dont do anything online period! If i do deposit moneygram or western union with casinos i trust.

 

[Nifty29]

I was working for the guy on the side commision setting up casinos for them but that ended cause i did get a group to sign up but got burned someone else took my deal. So yes im a player at number of casinos. and i was burned by 3 of them never got my winnings. I was told by dave stewart at money line wallet that it takes 90 days to get my funds from these casinos this i know was a crock, so i called my bank got some of my funds back. Then i got a phone call saying if i didnt give back the money i would be killed they would take it outta my ass also stating i owed them 4 times what i deposited with them that is very frightening i called police here and filed a report. This wallet is very shady Look ive been burned so many times why should i just let them take my money im not an atm nor a charity. i deserve protection if casinos there representing dont pay why should i be out my deposits. Plus casinos haVE 90 days where did this rule come from. I would just suggest avoiding money line wallet lives being threatened over money thats why i dont do anything online period! If i do deposit moneygram or western union with casinos i trust.

Well this is a completely different thing to what you first posted - you deliberately neglected to mention you were a business associate of the ewallet. The information you have provided suggests that you were screwed in a business deal.....which sucks but it isnt the same as a player depositing and playing, then winning and having winnings denied. Although, having said that, you havent mentioned which 3 casinos you are talking about and whether it was commission or game winnings, so you make it very difficult for anyone to help you even if they felt inclined (which I dont btw).

If, in fact, the casinos have stated they will pay you but it will take 90 days, then you dont have the right to chargeback as your winnings have not been declined. Did you read all the terms at the casino and this poor excuse for an ewallet you were touting? If 90 days pass and you are not paid, it is a different matter, but you cant just say "well Im not going to wait" and start charging back everywhere. I am not saying waiting 90 days is acceptable, but if thats the rules then you have to cop it on the chin.

In my experience, players who are quick to chargeback have probably done it before and will probably do it again. AFAIK it is also against the rules here at CM so you might want to keep that in mind.

Another example of someone making a complaint on the forums but conveniently omitting relevant facts that might paint the situation in a different light. No wonder Max gets annoyed.

 

[maxd]

No wonder Max gets annoyed.

Who me? When was that then?